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Old 01-08-2015, 08:29 PM  
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Old 06-28-2016, 11:05 AM   #4081
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Yes, you're right.
I'd be surprised if Azor Ahai fought any Others. There are no Others mentioned in any of the stories about him.

The Last Hero fought the Others, and succeeded in defeating them by finding the Children. He is never mentioned to have a flaming sword, or any Nissa Nissa type sacrifice.
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Old 06-28-2016, 11:15 AM   #4082
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I'd be surprised if Azor Ahai fought any Others. There are no Others mentioned in any of the stories about him.

The Last Hero fought the Others, and succeeded in defeating them by finding the Children. He is never mentioned to have a flaming sword, or any Nissa Nissa type sacrifice.
It is said that wielding Lightbringer once again, Azor Ahai will stand against the Others and if he fails, the world fails with him.
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Old 06-28-2016, 11:20 AM   #4083
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I don't buy it.
Nor should you.

It's pure batshittery.

They didn't just hide a rogue ****ing dragon under Winterfell. This once again falls into firmly under the heading of 'these guys are far better storytellers than we are and as such, aren't forced into stupid dues ex machinas like hidden dragons that don't show up for 4,000 pages to resolve a narrative issue...."

Honest to God, a fully grown dragon just emerging from the crypts of Winterfell would be the stupidest plot device I have seen in the entire history of literature. Steven King wouldn't have even written an ending that stupid.

No, there is no goddamn dragon underneath Winterfell because it's reeruned and GRRM is not reeruned.
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Old 06-28-2016, 11:28 AM   #4084
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Nor should you.

It's pure batshittery.

They didn't just hide a rogue ****ing dragon under Winterfell. This once again falls into firmly under the heading of 'these guys are far better storytellers than we are and as such, aren't forced into stupid dues ex machinas like hidden dragons that don't show up for 4,000 pages to resolve a narrative issue...."

Honest to God, a fully grown dragon just emerging from the crypts of Winterfell would be the stupidest plot device I have seen in the entire history of literature. Steven King wouldn't have even written an ending that stupid.

No, there is no goddamn dragon underneath Winterfell because it's reeruned and GRRM is not reeruned.
This.
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Old 06-28-2016, 11:30 AM   #4085
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How would the dragon have eaten? How would a beast like that go undetected for centuries?

I doubt Martin goes in that direction, but his comments about the ending of his novel (that he's worried he'll "pull a LOST") are a bit concerning.
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Old 06-28-2016, 11:56 AM   #4086
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Nor should you.

It's pure batshittery.

They didn't just hide a rogue ****ing dragon under Winterfell. This once again falls into firmly under the heading of 'these guys are far better storytellers than we are and as such, aren't forced into stupid dues ex machinas like hidden dragons that don't show up for 4,000 pages to resolve a narrative issue...."

Honest to God, a fully grown dragon just emerging from the crypts of Winterfell would be the stupidest plot device I have seen in the entire history of literature. Steven King wouldn't have even written an ending that stupid.

No, there is no goddamn dragon underneath Winterfell because it's reeruned and GRRM is not reeruned.
I actually agree, but i dont think martin knows wtf to do at this point so nothing would shock me
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Old 06-28-2016, 12:09 PM   #4087
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I honestly believe he knows how he wants to end the series but has no idea how to move the chess pieces to get there. He's written himself into a bit of a corner (or a knot, if you will) with some of his plotlines. The show's weak resolutions for both Arya and possibly Dorne provide strong evidence for that.
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Old 06-28-2016, 12:10 PM   #4088
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I think it was more like Cersie sexually molested the septa while she was bound to the slab. Cersei was running her hands over her in the scene that made it to air. I believe that that's what they were hinting at when they had Cersei do that, and then had Zombie Mountain come in and be the gimp off screen.
Yeah, I don't need to see that shit.
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There are some good theories/predictions/possible spoilers here. The one about Cersei seems like it is definitely where things are headed.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...s-revenge.html
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I think it was more like Cersie sexually molested the septa while she was bound to the slab. Cersei was running her hands over her in the scene that made it to air. I believe that that's what they were hinting at when they had Cersei do that, and then had Zombie Mountain come in and be the gimp off screen.
That would be weird.
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Kind of funny that shit takes forever in this series when it comes to alliances and inner workings but takes two episodes for Dany to form alliances with the Greyjoys, Dorne and the Tyrell's.
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That would be weird.
It's the one thing they could do that is well within the guidelines of what HBO could show on the screen but would decide not to allow.
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I got to thinking how many long standing houses have either completely ceased to exist or are in real danger of ceasing to exit.

House Tyrell: Gone. Grandma ain't having any babies to carry on the name.

House Lannister: Hanging on by a thread. All the heirs are dead. Jamie and Tyrion better get to it if they want the family name to live on.

House Bolton: Gone.

House Frey: Gone.

House Baratheon: Gendry is still rowing. Last of his line, I believe.

Umber: Gone.

Karstark: Gone.

The Stark family name is relying totally on Bran at this point.

Who else?
Pretty sure Bran isn't gonna be making any babies in his current condition.
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Yeah, I don't need to see that shit.
Watch the scene again with that in mind. Pay attention to where Cersei puts her hands as she talks.

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