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Old 02-10-2020, 09:27 AM  
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Per Verderame: Veach would prefer to keep Chris Jones

Interesting article here. Not a huge fan of Verderame but he was at the Super Bowl and he does go to the combine. I think he gets some tips, albeit from Terez (who is a nice guy).

Here is the most interesting part of the article. 2021 and 2022 would be extremely difficult to manage.

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What the Chiefs can do with their money

Looking at Kansas City’s cap situation, it can release wide receiver Sammy Watkins and linebacker Damien Wilson, clearing out $18.5 million in space. Combined with rollover money and already existing room, that’s enough cash for Veach to tag Jones, re-sign a few other pending free agents and extend Patrick Mahomes.

Speaking of Mahomes, the 24-year-old quarterback is likely to soon be the highest-paid player in the league. This is another important factor to consider.

Let’s play GM for a moment and do the following to the Chiefs’ roster:

•Cut Sammy Watkins
•Cut Damien Wilson
•Cut Cam Erving

Extend Patrick Mahomes on a five-year, $200 million deal
Use franchise tag on Chris Jones
Allow $10 million for free agents and draft picks
Keep $2 million in emergency space
Using the Jared Goff and Carson Wentz extension structures as a template, Mahomes’ cap hit would approximately be $11 million this season. Factor in Jones’ tag and the $12 million outlined above, and Kansas City is laying out $35 million.

The Chiefs could do it. But while it’s palatable for 2020, what about 2021 and beyond?

If Kansas City gave Mahomes the aforementioned extension, his cap number would be enormous in 2021, potentially the full $40 million figure. If the Chiefs also signed Jones to Clark’s exact deal, the cap number would be $22.7 million in 2021.

If we account for a slight rise in the NFL salary cap both this year and next, it’ll be around $210 million. Under these parameters, Kansas City would be looking at the following cap hits in 2021:

Patrick Mahomes ($40M)
Frank Clark ($24.2M)
Chris Jones ($22.7)
Tyrann Mathieu ($19.7M)
Tyreek Hill ($15.7M)
In total, the top five players on the Chiefs would be earning $122.3 million, or 58 percent of the salary cap.

Going into this offseason with a projected $200 million salary cap, only one team is currently allocating more than 50 percent to their top five players: the Los Angeles Rams at 54 percent.

Kansas City can always create cap space with extensions and releases, but tying up such a large chunk of money in five players is dangerous. The Chiefs would be largely unable to sign any other meaningful free agents for a few years — including their own — while being completely reliant on the draft to restock departing talent.

In his three years at the helm, Veach has proven to believe in acquiring top-shelf talent and filling in around them with low-cost, high-upside veteran deals (see: Damien Williams, Stefen Wisniewski, Mike Pennel) and rookie deals.

Jones certainly fits Veach’s profile. The question is if he fits into Kansas City’s payroll.
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Old 02-17-2020, 12:15 PM   #391
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And maybe that’s Veach’s plan. Keep Jones and trade down from 32 to get more picks.
32 would be a sweet spot too, you’ll have teams wanting to maybe grab a QB, a 5th year option, etc.
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Old 02-17-2020, 12:22 PM   #392
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32 would be a sweet spot too, you’ll have teams wanting to maybe grab a QB, a 5th year option, etc.
If Diggs, Taylor, or Delpit are still there at 32, that extra year is nice for KC as well.
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Old 02-17-2020, 12:25 PM   #393
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And maybe that’s Veach’s plan. Keep Jones and trade down from 32 to get more picks.
getting one of the top 10 or so picks in the second and an extra third or 4th this year would be pretty helpful for depth.

Probably doesn't drastically alter who KC can get with its first selection in the draft, and have another mid-rounder could be huge.
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Old 02-17-2020, 12:27 PM   #394
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32 would be a sweet spot too, you’ll have teams wanting to maybe grab a QB, a 5th year option, etc.
Agreed. Hopefully you can trade down and get a 3rd, stay in the top 40 and get a good player.

Add as many top 100 picks as we can get
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The more I think about it, the more I think that if Veach thinks he can keep Jones without hamstringing the team, then that's probably the right way to go.

Veach proved that he's a more than capable GM this past season. I have no questions at all about his abilities anymore to do his job well. If he thinks he can keep Jones without hurting the team, I believe that he can. I am very curious to see how he does it though.
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Shouldn't we be expecting a comp pick for losing Morse and Nelson and only adding HB?
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Agreed. Hopefully you can trade down and get a 3rd, stay in the top 40 and get a good player.

Add as many top 100 picks as we can get
I don’t think you’re getting more than a 2nd and a 4th for that 32nd pick.
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If the Chiefs have zero flexibility with the cap going forward by signing second contracts, they are screwed. Injuries happen. If we still had Alex Smith and a reasonable contract, of course you sign Jones. But we don't. Get the picks, don't sign another mega-contract and maintain cap flexibility for opportune player pickups and injuries.
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Shouldn't we be expecting a comp pick for losing Morse and Nelson and only adding HB?
Yes. A 4th but probably a 5th.

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Would Jones play under the Franchise tag....or would he hold out?

You can get rid of players like Watkins, Erving, Colquitt and some others if you wanted, tag Jones and still have a decent amount of money to work with.
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If the Chiefs have zero flexibility with the cap going forward by signing second contracts, they are screwed. Injuries happen. If we still had Alex Smith and a reasonable contract, of course you sign Jones. But we don't. Get the picks, don't sign another mega-contract and maintain cap flexibility for opportune player pickups and injuries.
Correct. We need to go bargain shopping in weeks 3 and 4 of free agency.
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Shouldn't we be expecting a comp pick for losing Morse and Nelson and only adding HB?

Okafor?

We also signed Wilson, but Conley going to the Jags cancels that one out
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Would Jones play under the Franchise tag....or would he hold out?

You can get rid of players like Watkins, Erving, Colquitt and some others if you wanted, tag Jones and still have a decent amount of money to work with.
We've been over this.

Yes, you could make it work for 2020, but you are just adding pressure in future years.

I'd make all those cuts anyway, but give Veach extra draft picks to keep this roster young and cheap. It's not like we are suddenly not going to be a playoff contender. Just got to be smart.
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Okafor?

We also signed Wilson, but Conley going to the Jags cancels that one out
As of right now we have no comp picks. If they don’t count Okafor....then we’ll get a 4th for Nelson.
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We've been over this.

Yes, you could make it work for 2020, but you are just adding pressure in future years.

I'd make all those cuts anyway, but give Veach extra draft picks to keep this roster young and cheap. It's not like we are suddenly not going to be a playoff contender. Just got to be smart.
And not once did I say that I would sign him to a new deal after 2020. I’m just wondering if he’d show up to play under the tag.
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