Alex Smith did, does, and will always suck.

[Hammock Parties]

[ChiefsFanatic]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Coaching helps and so does a dominant defense and running game that a lot of teams don't have.

I know I am in the minority, but the fact that Reid has pretty much ignored the running game has me worried. We have run the ball 52 times this season and passed it 70 times this season. So, it looks like a close distribution of play calling.

But Charles only has 32 rushes, 16 each game. And Smith has 12 of the 52 rushes, and almost all of those are scrambles. Take these facts into consideration, and it is a much larger disparity.

In either game this season Reid has not made a conscious effort to establish the run early. This keeps the offensive line from getting into a rhythm and it effectively make the play-action passing game null and void, and in doing so drastically reduces the best weapon on this team from a rocket launcher to a .38 special.

I believe that if we do not make establishing the run early a priority, this team will not win very many games, because no matter how much of an improvement Alex Smith is over Casshole or Quinn, or how much he is improving himself, he is not a QB that can carry an offense with his passing ability.

And on Thursday, no matter how good our defense is, they need the offense to posses the ball for long periods of time, limiting the opportunities of the Eagle's offense.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

Funny. Alex Smith last year found a way to win against Seattle......

What happened?

Funny you should mention that game. I was watching it and during the first half, both teams were doing nothing. I kept thinking that it was a good thing that the 49ers were putting the game in Smith's hands and not running Gore very much.

Then, in the second half, they came out and started pounding Gore and started picking up yards. Combined with some big returns by Ginn, the 49ers pulled out the game. Smith was just a passenger that game.

http://www.ninersnation.com/2012/10/...cisco-the-ball

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

Its essentially the very same defense as last year save DeVito, Sean Smith, and Akeem Jordan.

And so far, your running game, has been Alex Smith.

Im not ragging you, really im not. This is not the first time that I have pointed out though how much a difference SPECIFICALLY Bob Sutton was going to have on this team.

Remember, and it wasn't your argument.

"Alex Smith cant win without San Francisco's defense, and Harbaugh. Alex Smith cant win with out a dominant running attack, and a situation where he has to be the guy."

Forget the Jax game. That's a pitiful example. But Alex Smith was every bit of the little bit of the offense that the Chiefs had against a very good defense of the Cowboys.

But, that's neither here nor there. Coaching has made all the difference in the world in the CHIEFS DEFENSE.

Up until the last Chiefs drive Sunday, I would pretty much concur. In fact, I was beginning to think we might not be able to run the ball this year... with Charles as our RB. That was a thought that never had occurred to me this whole off-season.

That last drive to chew up the clock was a thing of beauty though, minus the couple of unnecessary clock stoppages, with the offensive line and Charles taking charge of the game. That is what I expected all along.

I suspect Albert having a visit with the offense on the sideline was the reason for the shift in the rushing game from nil to taking the game over when the Cowboys knew we were going to run it at them. If so, kudos to Albert!

I also suspect that we will continue to be able to run the ball like that last drive from that point forward.

[Jakemall]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

No.

So Dilfer and Grossman = Alex smith now?

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Frosty

Funny you should mention that game. I was watching it and during the first half, both teams were doing nothing. I kept thinking that it was a good thing that the 49ers were putting the game in Smith's hands and not running Gore very much.

Then, in the second half, they came out and started pounding Gore and started picking up yards. Combined with some big returns by Ginn, the 49ers pulled out the game. Smith was just a passenger that game.

http://www.ninersnation.com/2012/10/...cisco-the-ball

What you are failing to understand is Alex's ability in pre-snap reads. All that run yardage isn't only a product of having good RBs or OL. It is in reading the D and calling the play that will take best advantage of that particular defensive call. That... goes to the QB. That is.. a big reason why Kaep has failed against Seattle. You can't often backyard ball your way into wins against good defenses. QBs must learn to read defenses pre and post snap.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

No.

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[Jakemall]

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

What you are failing to understand is Alex's ability in pre-snap reads. All that run yardage isn't only a product of having good RBs or OL. It is in reading the D and calling the play that will take best advantage of that particular defensive call. That... goes to the QB. That is.. a big reason why Kaep has failed against Seattle. You can't often backyard ball your way into wins against good defenses. QBs must learn to read defenses pre and post snap.

And again he did it with an injured throwing hand. Oh wait...that's just a figment of my imagination...or he should have thrown it left handed. Alexcuses.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic

I know I am in the minority, but the fact that Reid has pretty much ignored the running game has me worried. We have run the ball 52 times this season and passed it 70 times this season. So, it looks like a close distribution of play calling.

But Charles only has 32 rushes, 16 each game. And Smith has 12 of the 52 rushes, and almost all of those are scrambles. Take these facts into consideration, and it is a much larger disparity.

In either game this season Reid has not made a conscious effort to establish the run early. This keeps the offensive line from getting into a rhythm and it effectively make the play-action passing game null and void, and in doing so drastically reduces the best weapon on this team from a rocket launcher to a .38 special.

I believe that if we do not make establishing the run early a priority, this team will not win very many games, because no matter how much of an improvement Alex Smith is over Casshole or Quinn, or how much he is improving himself, he is not a QB that can carry an offense with his passing ability.

And on Thursday, no matter how good our defense is, they need the offense to posses the ball for long periods of time, limiting the opportunities of the Eagle's offense.

Also a little concerned with the run/pass ratio, but even more so concerned with the way we are running. Dallas was penetrating the backfield frequently... and we were running slow-developing counters and traps. Bad move. Where are the quick-hitters up the A gaps to neutralize the front 4 from pinning ears back?

[Mav]

Originally Posted by Frosty

Funny you should mention that game. I was watching it and during the first half, both teams were doing nothing. I kept thinking that it was a good thing that the 49ers were putting the game in Smith's hands and not running Gore very much.

Then, in the second half, they came out and started pounding Gore and started picking up yards. Combined with some big returns by Ginn, the 49ers pulled out the game. Smith was just a passenger that game.

http://www.ninersnation.com/2012/10/...cisco-the-ball

Really? Alex Smith went 7/8 with a td pass in the second half. The one incompletion, being the horrific INT in the redzone where Moss was open for about 3 days.

But, what changed was they started throwing over the middle backing up the lbs, which opened up the running lanes. That's called COACHING.

To say that Alex had nothing to do with a 13-6 win, when he threw the only td of the game is a bit much I think.

But to each their own.

[Alex Smiff]

Originally Posted by l4z4rd

Niners don't match up well against Seattle. Hmm...wonder how Smith was 3-0 against Seattle under Harbaugh.

Right, cuz Seattle's the same team now.

1 TD, 1 INT 140 yards AT HOME! against RW's Seahawks. Are you really bragging about that?

Game before that against an even worse Seahawks team
0TD,0INT 179 yards
Game before that
0TD 0INT 124 yards

Dumb fanboys.

So yea...he beat the Tavaris Jackson and Charlie Whitehurst led Seahawks without even needing to score a single touchdown. You guys are worse than Tebow fans.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

What you are failing to understand is Alex's ability in pre-snap reads. All that run yardage isn't only a product of having good RBs or OL. It is in reading the D and calling the play that will take best advantage of that particular defensive call. That... goes to the QB. That is.. a big reason why Kaep has failed against Seattle. You can't often backyard ball your way into wins against good defenses. QBs must learn to read defenses pre and post snap.

Sure thing, Sparky. Did you read the link?

FTR, I was talking about the one game Mav brought up because it was one I remember watching last year. It was very clear at the time that the 49ers were struggling until they took the game out of Smith's hands. The article backs that up.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by Alex Smiff

Right, cuz Seattle's the same team now.

They are essentially the same team as last year.

Lol. last year at least you could say the 49ers defense was hurt.

Was it hurt sunday?

HAHA. And like most don't think that the 49ers aren't better. Kap had the whole offseason as the starter, the LEADER, he was god after whooping up on the packers.

Whats the deal?

Who is making the excuses now

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

Really? Alex Smith went 7/8 with a td pass in the second half. The one incompletion, being the horrific INT in the redzone where Moss was open for about 3 days.

But, what changed was they started throwing over the middle backing up the lbs, which opened up the running lanes. That's called COACHING.

To say that Alex had nothing to do with a 13-6 win, when he threw the only td of the game is a bit much I think.

But to each their own.

So, having him throw only 8 passes in the second half of a tight game isn't taking the ball out of the QB's hands?


The 49ers were very lucky that Wilson was still in his struggling on the road phase.

[JENKINSWINS]

Originally Posted by Alex Smiff

Right, cuz Seattle's the same team now.

Right, cuz SF is the same team now too.

Wasn't the excuse that the 9ers lost because they were hurt on defense, missing some key players. Aldon was hurt and Justin Smith was out?

The defense did their job and was healthy this year. Again, what happened?

[Mav]

Originally Posted by Frosty

So, having him throw only 8 passes in the second half of a tight game isn't taking the ball out of the QB's hands?


The 49ers were very lucky that Wilson was still in his struggling on the road phase.

Well, if you are going to objectively look at things. The 49ers defense is really good as well. Did they not hold their own against Russell Wilson at home on Sunday?

8-19 142 yards?

And, if one were to objectively look at that game vs the Seahawks last year, one could say that it was another heavy weight fight, and the 49ers are built around their run game?

They took the ball out of Alex Smiths hands, and yet he was 7/8 in the second half because they adjusted from trying to throw deep, to throwing over the middle?

Again, that's called coaching.

Also, it was a game following the horrific game against the Giants, and it was a Thursday night game. None of that matters though.

Yeah, you are right. Kap the franchise qb, led the 49ers to a whopping 3 points, with 4 turnovers. His performance was clearly more impressive......