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Old 04-03-2016, 09:48 AM  
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*** Official 2016 Royals Repository, Version 1 ***



And so it begins: The Royals' second straight attempt to repeat as AL Champions, and first attempt to repeat as World Series champions.

In this thread, we'll track all non-gameday action. Roster moves, prospect news, etc.

I'll start the thread as usual, with division rivals thoughts. I still like KC to repeat as AL Central champs. Here's how I see the rest of it shaking out:

2) Indians - they have the pitching (and seem to have at least semi-Kluber-ed Cody Anderson, who added 3 mph to his fastball in the offseason). Will the offense hold up? I think this is a team that ends up looking a lot like the 2014 Royals. Francisco Lindor will solidify their IF defense over the full season, and is a help with the bat. I think this club is still a year away from really breaking through - the offense still has a lot of question marks - but I like them to nab a wildcard spot.

Key Player(s): Michael Brantley. When Brantley returns - and how he hits when he does - will be critical to the Indians' ability to be good enough on offense.

Jason Kipnis. Kipnis has been an enigmatic offensive performer for the past several years. If he finally has a good offensive campaign from start to finish, Cleveland could make real noise.

Something of interest to me: For all the acclaim the Twins' farm system gets, I look at the Indians young players, and would much rather have them. Brad Zimmer is going to be a very good all-around CF. Clint Frazier has huge power potential and should arrive soon (2017). Lindor is a young stud.

3) Tigers - Old and dependent on a few stars. If Verlander and Sanchez are healthy and effective, they will be playoff contenders. I'm sure JD Martinez will continue to hit roid-aided bombs. I'm also pretty sure Victor Martinez's days as a huge power threat are gone.

Key player: Justin Verlander. Detroit people would have you believe he figured out how to succeed without his big fastball in September of last year. If that's true, and he returns to dominant form, Detroit will likely contend again.

Something of interest to me: Will Jose Iglesias stay healthy and not try to kill teammates in the dugout? His defense makes the whole group much better.

4) Twins - They won't lead the division or be in playoff contention for as long this year, but Minnesota will avoid the cellar.

Key Player: Miguel Sano. Huge power, huge K rate. Can he continue to drive the ball and be a plus offensive player? Probably needs to cut that 35 percent K percentage to do so.

Something of interest to me: Will teams challenge Sano inside with hard stuff? Working away, away, just lets his power play up. Also - will Mike Berardino continue to be the biggest beat writer homer in MLB?

5) White Sox - still managed by a shitty manager who can't control his clubhouse (The blame for the LaRoche thing really should fall on him, not the GM). Still have a shitty overall defense and a lot of douchebags on the team. They will once again look better on paper than they actually perform.

Key player: Carlos Rodon. The White Sox need Rodon to take a big step forward to make an actual move this season. He's got the talent...

And, as always, here are the prospects.

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Old 08-01-2016, 08:47 AM   #3961
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That was also the Chris Sale draft, who the Royals thought long and hard about drafting at #4, but then ultimately decided on Colon. The Sox got him 9 picks later.

He IS kind of a prick, but I would have loved to have him in our rotation . . . . .
Sure, but Royals weren't the only team that thought he may only be a bullpen guy due to delivery/size. This one does hurt given our struggles developing pitching.
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Old 08-01-2016, 08:48 AM   #3962
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I bet DM stands pat and hopes to finish at .500 or just over.
Seems to be very little noise about Eddy and Kendrys. Surprised Eddy isn't generating more interest. He hasn't been great, but stuff looks fine and he has post-season pedigree.
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Old 08-01-2016, 09:07 AM   #3963
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Going to have to trade our players eventually to get some already established prospects. I don't trust Moore in the draft after Colon, Starling, Zimmer, etc.

Colin is the only one of those who wasn't viewed as a logical/good pick at the time, and the MLB draft is probably the toughest one to judge with hindsight.

It's frustrating that the Royals first round picks other than Moustakas and Hosmer have not turned into core players/stars for the team, but that's not atypical around MLB, either.

The Colon one is the one that's most frustrating, because they were planning to take Sale until right before the pick, reportedly. That was the only "reach" pick, and it was seemingly made because the org had a hole at SS in its system and a plethora of LH pitching prospects.

Zimmer is just bad luck. Team hasn't done anything wrong there.

Starling looks like a bad pick and is also frustrating, but was justified at the time.

The other thing that I really think back to other is finishing a 1/2 game worse than Baltimore rather than a 1/2 game better that year. KC takes Machado in that case, and the whole landscape probably changes. Including the Greinke trade.


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Old 08-01-2016, 09:22 AM   #3964
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Old 08-01-2016, 09:51 AM   #3965
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I bet DM stands pat and hopes to finish at .500 or just over.
This team has a 20% of finishing at .500. They can't hit and when they do, they can't pitch.
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Old 08-01-2016, 09:56 AM   #3966
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Colin is the only one of those who wasn't viewed as a logical/good pick at the time, and the MLB draft is probably the toughest one to judge with hindsight.

It's frustrating that the Royals first round picks other than Moustakas and Hosmer have not turned into core players/stars for the team, but that's not atypical around MLB, either.

The Colon one is the one that's most frustrating, because they were planning to take Sale until right before the pick, reportedly. That was the only "reach" pick, and it was seemingly made because the org had a hole at SS in its system and a plethora of LH pitching prospects.

Zimmer is just bad luck. Team hasn't done anything wrong there.

Starling looks like a bad pick and is also frustrating, but was justified at the time.

The other thing that I really think back to other is finishing a 1/2 game worse than Baltimore rather than a 1/2 game better that year. KC takes Machado in that case, and the whole landscape probably changes. Including the Greinke trade.


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Yeah, the Starling draft was the most frustrating to me. The consensus was the Top 4 pitchers and then Starling and then everyone else. The Royals would have taken any of the Top 4 had they fallen and they REALLY wanted Bundy, reportedly. They were kind of a backed into a corner and HAD to take Starling because of his status and being a local kid. If they didn't pick him and he 'Hit' then they would have never heard the end of it from fans and 'experts' . . . . .

It kind of sucks the way some of those picks and results went down, but then again, as you say, one difference and the whole landscape changes. Maybe good, maybe bad.

What I do know is since those drafts the Royals have two pennants and a trophy and neither the Orioles or the White Sox have won jack shit (well, unless you count a division title), so while some of the picks would be nice, I'll take the results of the 'process' and trust GMDM and the scouting department are doing everything they can to set us up to be a successful franchise going forward. Even if that may mean an occasional 'miss' on a draft pick.
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I bet DM stands pat and hopes to finish at .500 or just over.
I guess so...I'd think they'd take Volquez mutual option if he isn't traded
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If things work out, the Royals could have three Left Handed Pitchers in their starting rotation in 2017; Duffy, Vargas, and Minor. Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
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I think at this point they have no other choice than to put him back there and hope it works, right?

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Yeah, the Starling draft was the most frustrating to me. The consensus was the Top 4 pitchers and then Starling and then everyone else. The Royals would have taken any of the Top 4 had they fallen and they REALLY wanted Bundy, reportedly. They were kind of a backed into a corner and HAD to take Starling because of his status and being a local kid. If they didn't pick him and he 'Hit' then they would have never heard the end of it from fans and 'experts' . . . . .



It kind of sucks the way some of those picks and results went down, but then again, as you say, one difference and the whole landscape changes. Maybe good, maybe bad.



What I do know is since those drafts the Royals have two pennants and a trophy and neither the Orioles or the White Sox have won jack shit (well, unless you count a division title), so while some of the picks would be nice, I'll take the results of the 'process' and trust GMDM and the scouting department are doing everything they can to set us up to be a successful franchise going forward. Even if that may mean an occasional 'miss' on a draft pick.


Agreed. Who knows how different things are if they have Machado... Maybe they don't make the trade with Milwaukee. Maybe Machado doesn't develop the same way, etc.

I'll take the results. No complaints here, really.


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