Cardinals Release WR DeAndre Hopkins [Titans, 2yr/$26 million]

[Dante84]

Interesting

Cardinals released DeAndre Hopkins. pic.twitter.com/c0f9UaabYA

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) May 26, 2023

[ForeverIowan]

Chris Jones extension is the ace up Veach's sleeve for sure. Mahomes has taken less than market as the leader of the offense. Would love to see Chris Jones expedite this extension to allow the DHop deal to get done.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx

The only "role" MVS plays on this team is eating a shit ton of cap room and not catching balls.

Dude got paid $9m for 687 yards and 2 TDs in the regular season.

I'm willing to look past all that for what he did against the Bengals in the championship game when he was the one guy that didn't get hurt at receiver in that game.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx

The only "role" MVS plays on this team is eating a shit ton of cap room and not catching balls.

Dude got paid $9m for 687 yards and 2 TDs in the regular season.

He's the vertical stretch guy. Kind of an integral piece to Andy's offensive scheme.



However, if we acquired DHop, that vertical stretch becomes less necessary. And not because Deandre would take over part of that role, because imo that would be a huge waste of his skillset/talent. But with a WR like Hopkins, you just don't need to create that much room underneath, so MVS' value would decrease slightly when Hopkins was on the field.

But overall, I'm on the side of trading MVS isn't a real option.

[Couch-Potato]

Hopkins - Back for a full season
Toney - Healthy all year
Moore - Takes a big step forward
Rice - Proves he's a dog out there
Tall-Ross - Returns to 1st round form
Fast-Ross - Andy squeezes the most out of him
James - Is a reliable pass catching option when called upon

^Optimal performance from this group could be pretty incredible!

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

Exactly. You don't do this, and you're losing some credibility with him. You owe it to him if he's going to agree to stick with his current contract, and I think that's the main reason you go do it.

Two things.

1. This just shows how much of a dumpster fire Arizona is. They are taking the cap hit AND getting no picks for him. That's what bad franchises do.

2. KC can't afford a bidding war for his services. If he is chasing the biggest paycheck, KC won't land him. If he wants to play for the best QB ever along with having a very real shot at winning a ring, KC is his best place. Other teams are good, like Buffalo, but under McDermott and Allen they have still never made an AFCCG, while KC has hosted five in a row and has been to three SBs in five years, while winning two and being the defending SB Champion.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx

The only "role" MVS plays on this team is eating a shit ton of cap room and not catching balls.

Dude got paid $9m for 687 yards and 2 TDs in the regular season.

That's a pretty critical modifier you slipped in there.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

One of the easiest options is bringing Chris Jones to the table and offering him a long-term extension that would lower his cap hit. They could create up to $16 million in salary cap space with that one move alone.

Another option would be for Chiefs’ salary-cap guru Brandt Tillis to create a contract with some void years on it to spread out Hopkins’ cap hit. This is a tactic often used by teams like the New Orleans Saints and Los Angeles Rams, but it runs the risk of hurting the team’s salary cap situation down the line.

Ultimately, Kansas City does still have the means to acquire Hopkins. The big question remaining is whether or not their level of interest in the player has changed since the 2023 NFL draft.

Unless you're Charles Goldman, you should probably give credit where credit is due for your post....complete plagiarism.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/details...201544218.html

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx

The only "role" MVS plays on this team is eating a shit ton of cap room and not catching balls.

Dude got paid $9m for 687 yards and 2 TDs in the regular season.

He was worth every single dollar for what he did in the AFCCG.

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

Unless you're Charles Goldman, you should probably give credit where credit is due for your post....complete plagiarism.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/details...201544218.html

I meant to put quotes up but I'm fairly confident no one thought I wrote that lol

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Two things.

1. This just shows how much of a dumpster fire Arizona is. They are taking the cap hit AND getting no picks for him. That's what bad franchises do.

2. KC can't afford a bidding war for his services. If he is chasing the biggest paycheck, KC won't land him. If he wants to play for the best QB ever along with having a very real shot at winning a ring, KC is his best place. Other teams are good, like Buffalo, but under McDermott and Allen they have still never made an AFCCG, while KC has hosted five in a row and has been to three SBs in five years, while winning two and being the defending SB Champion.

I think he's given plenty of signals that he wants to play here with Pat.

Hoping we can make it happen!

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

I meant to put quotes up but I'm fairly confident no one thought I wrote that lol

I did. Man, what a letdown! Went from thinking you were some kind of NFL cap management genius to realizing you’re a guy who struggles to craft posts on a vbulletin message board.

[Mephistopheles Janx]

Originally Posted by DaFace

That's a pretty critical modifier you slipped in there.

We do need to get through the regular season before we can worry about the playoffs.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by ForeverIowan

Chris Jones extension is the ace up Veach's sleeve for sure. Mahomes has taken less than market as the leader of the offense. Would love to see Chris Jones expedite this extension to allow the DHop deal to get done.

Chris Jones is lobbying for dhop and can't imagine he'd do that if he felt it would eat into his contract. Have to think that if dhop signs, Jones extends almost immediately after, and that this will be the main way we free up the space to do it.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx

We do need to get through the regular season before we can worry about the playoffs.

MVS is the deep threat, even when he's not catching balls, his presence is crucial to the offense.

[kcgreene]

Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx

The only "role" MVS plays on this team is eating a shit ton of cap room and not catching balls.

Dude got paid $9m for 687 yards and 2 TDs in the regular season.

Heres a stat line for you:

6 Rec, 116 Yards, 1 TD

We don't win the AFC Championship game without MVS stepping up the way he did. And that was partially due to him having to shift roles after injuries in the game. He HAD to be the guy and start filling JuJu's and Mecole's roles when they went down. And he was targeted more because he had to take on those roles, and he did well when he was asked to do it.

During the regular season his role was much more purely as deep threat. 492 of those yards were gained when our field position was before midfield. They didn't rely on him much for short yardage, hence less TDs (only 29 yards gained when we were in the redzone).

If you want to argue that he can't break the big bomb for the touchdown, sure I won't disagree. He is a deep threat that unfortunately tends to go down and can't break free, but acting like he isn't doing what Andy's scheming has him designed to do is intellectually dishonest.