Chiefs Andy Reid on Mike & Mike: "Alex is our quarterback by the way" - Page 26

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-26-2017, 09:10 AM

Don't want to read too much into the conversation but just watched Andy on M&M this morning and he made it clear that Alex was the QB. Mentioned that he could still play, was at the Pro Bowl (

), and can do all the things he wants his guy to do.

In essence, we can put any talk of Tony Romo, Nick Foles, or any other retread to bed. But, they did talk about college system QBs briefly (no one specific), and he said that as long as they feel like a guy can learn, it is their job to transition a college system QB and that it doesn't effect their decision on which type to take.

So, will we draft a QB? Idk, my bet is on yes since Foles is apparently gone.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 01-28-2017, 11:44 AM

We got little to no value out of Houston, Charles, and Maclin which was 30+ million against the books this season. All of those players were in the top pay bracket at their position.

The Running backs gave us half the TD production of the previous season

Our run defense was ranked near the bottom.

Despite being legitimate contenders this year, somehow it's Smith's fault we didn't get to the big game. And no one wants to give Smith credit for delivering the rock to Kelce who became the most productive TE this year.

**The Franchise** · 01-28-2017, 11:46 AM

We got 15 passing TDs out of our $17 million dollar QB. Hard to pass up that value.

Rasputin · 01-28-2017, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

We got little to no value out of Houston, Charles, and Maclin which was 30+ million against the books this season. All of those players were in the top pay bracket at their position.

The Running backs gave us half the TD production of the previous season

Our run defense was ranked near the bottom.

Yet somehow when we were contenders this year, it's Smith's fault we didn't get to the big game.

It's all the more reason to move on from Smith obviously he doesn't make his teammates any better because that's what elite quarterbacks do.

The offense never gets in a rhythm to get things going and a lot of that falls directly at Alex Smith feet to orchestrate or sustain drives. Need 8 yards for a first down he passes 6 yards and the WR gets tackled. That's not moving the chains.

We aren't going get any better with Alex Smith.

Hammock Parties · 01-28-2017, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

We got little to no value out of Houston, Charles, and Maclin which was 30+ million against the books this season. All of those players were in the top pay bracket at their position.

The Running backs gave us half the TD production of the previous season

Our run defense was ranked near the bottom.

Despite being legitimate contenders this year, somehow it's Smith's fault we didn't get to the big game. And no one wants to give Smith credit for delivering the rock to Kelce who became the most productive TE this year.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-28-2017, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Frazod

Seriously. Even if the Chiefs had tied the game, the Steelers would have gotten the ball back and marched right down the field, just like they had all goddamn day, and kicked the winning FG as time expired. They would have probably been aided by a horseshit PI call or two, and maybe some blatant uncalled holds, but that's how it would have gone down.

If Big Rape were given the same offensive weapons KC has given Smith, that game would have been a blow-out.
Chiefs D did their job, didn't allow a TD.
Chiefs offense was pure dog shit.

Rasputin · 01-28-2017, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

We got 15 passing TDs out of our $17 million dollar QB. Hard to pass up that value.

Damon Huard had 11 TD with 1 int from the bench after Trent went down to finish the season.

That's not saying much for Alex

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 01-28-2017, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

It's all the more reason to move on from Smith obviously he doesn't make his teammates any better because that's what elite quarterbacks do.

The offense never gets in a rhythm to get things going and a lot of that falls directly at Alex Smith feet to orchestrate or sustain drives. Need 8 yards for a first down he passes 6 yards and the WR gets tackled. That's not moving the chains.

We aren't going get any better with Alex Smith.

#2 in the AFC isn't an improvement from the previous years? Are you going to deny that we played one of the toughest schedules too?

And if you want an elite QB, please list those in this league who are 'elite'. What are the odds we hit on an "elite" QB and he's ready to play like one from day one. Those players are extremely difficult to find. Yet somehow you believe we'll find one that can learn the playbook immediately?

Remember, Smith played without a legitimate #1 receiver this season and had to throw to an inexperienced rookie for a good part of the season. Yet, his total TD production was identical to 2015 and that's against tougher competition.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr

There are bigger problems to address such as the RB unit that went from 6th in 2015 to 17th this season.

crayzkirk · 01-28-2017, 12:04 PM

After reading all of this, what I feel mostly is sad. I am past the anger phase and no amount of ifs, ands or buts is going to change anything. As fans, I'm not really sure what we can do other than speak with our wallets and not support the NFL or the Chiefs. Of course, there is seemingly an unending supply of rabid fans that would love to have an NFL franchise in their city. Hunt could just move the team somewhere else.

Like a lot of things in this world, sometimes life just isn't fair. It's entertainment and a business. This has turned into the same as discussing politics or religion; everyone gets upset and has to be right when the truth is somewhere in the middle.

I would like a different head coach and quarterback. Evidently, the Chiefs don't really seem to care what I want. I am just going to accept that the Chiefs aren't going to get the same attention as NE, DEN, LV (Vegas, really?), PIT, IND in the AFC from the media.

It simply isn't worth the energy to be upset of something so MEANINGLESS. The Royals winning the world series was exciting however I still get to go to work each day, pay my taxes and live my life. Nothing changed by me saying Hey, The Royals won the WS in 2015. Whoop Dee Doo.

**New World Order** · 01-28-2017, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

#2 in the AFC isn't an improvement from the previous years? Are you going to deny that we played one of the toughest schedules too?

And if you want an elite QB, please list those in this league who are 'elite'. What are the odds we hit on an "elite" QB and he's ready to play like one from day one. Those players are extremely difficult to find. Yet somehow you believe we'll find one that can learn the playbook immediately?

Remember, Smith played without a legitimate #1 receiver this season and had to throw to an inexperienced rookie for a good part of the season. His total TD production was identical to 2015 and that's against tougher competition.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr

He had Kielce you goddamn asshole.

He's a better receiving threat than most have

**The Franchise** · 01-28-2017, 12:08 PM

#2 in the AFC because Carr got hurt.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 01-28-2017, 12:08 PM

To put things into perspective...new England's RB unit went from dead last to 12th this season. You don't think that's helped their offense or Tom Brady get better looks? QB rating 102-> 112

Carolina's RBs averaged 30 less yards a game this season from a year ago...and look what happened to Cam's pass productivity. QB rating 99 -> 75

Falcons jumped from 19th to 5th this season in rushing yards. Matt Ryan's QB rating 89-> 117

Every good football coach knows it starts on the ground. And then from there everything begins to open up. Does anyone honestly think the Steelers could have won 9 in a row without Leveon Bell? The dude averaged over 150 yards/game in those games.

Hammock Parties · 01-28-2017, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Carolina's RBs averaged 30 less yards a game this season from a year ago...

Chiefs top 3 non-QB rushers last year: 1,401 yards on 303 carries

Chiefs top 3 non-QB rushers this year: 1,481 yards on 326 carries

You lie like a dog.

PAChiefsGuy · 01-28-2017, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

#2 in the AFC because Carr got hurt.

Didn't win the SB because Charles got hurt. Two can play that game.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 01-28-2017, 12:17 PM

Spencer Ware
2015: 5.6ypc , 6 TD's on 72 carries
2016: 4.3ypc, 3 TD's on 216 carries

Apparently there are people who don't see this as a problem? GTFO. Spencer Ware was 5x more likely to score a TD per carry in 2015 than this year. Shocking.

Rasputin · 01-28-2017, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

#2 in the AFC isn't an improvement from the previous years? Are you going to deny that we played one of the toughest schedules too?

And if you want an elite QB, please list those in this league who are 'elite'. What are the odds we hit on an "elite" QB and he's ready to play like one from day one. Those players are extremely difficult to find. Yet somehow you believe we'll find one that can learn the playbook immediately?

Remember, Smith played without a legitimate #1 receiver this season and had to throw to an inexperienced rookie for a good part of the season. Yet, his total TD production was identical to 2015 and that's against tougher competition.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr

There are bigger problems to address such as the RB unit that went from 6th in 2015 to 17th this season.

I want to develop an elite quarterback we select from the draft preferably from the first round but doesn't have to be if the guy is coachable with talent and a winning persona about him. I don't think it would happen first couple of years but with progression even I expect hardship or growing pains to get there but I can be patient and enjoy watching a baby qb grow into a man. I probably can't even explain it to you. You wouldn't understand the difference.

You are stuck on retread same past the Chiefs have failed with. I want a resurgence.

01-26-2017, 09:10 AM
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $8699447	Andy Reid on Mike & Mike: "Alex is our quarterback by the way" Don't want to read too much into the conversation but just watched Andy on M&M this morning and he made it clear that Alex was the QB. Mentioned that he could still play, was at the Pro Bowl (), and can do all the things he wants his guy to do. In essence, we can put any talk of Tony Romo, Nick Foles, or any other retread to bed. But, they did talk about college system QBs briefly (no one specific), and he said that as long as they feel like a guy can learn, it is their job to transition a college system QB and that it doesn't effect their decision on which type to take. So, will we draft a QB? Idk, my bet is on yes since Foles is apparently gone.
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01-28-2017, 11:44 AM	#376
TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	We got little to no value out of Houston, Charles, and Maclin which was 30+ million against the books this season. All of those players were in the top pay bracket at their position. The Running backs gave us half the TD production of the previous season Our run defense was ranked near the bottom. Despite being legitimate contenders this year, somehow it's Smith's fault we didn't get to the big game. And no one wants to give Smith credit for delivering the rock to Kelce who became the most productive TE this year.
Posts: 11,680

01-28-2017, 11:46 AM	#377
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2555047	We got 15 passing TDs out of our $17 million dollar QB. Hard to pass up that value.
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01-28-2017, 12:04 PM	#383
crayzkirk Veteran Join Date: Nov 2016 Casino cash: $2607985	After reading all of this, what I feel mostly is sad. I am past the anger phase and no amount of ifs, ands or buts is going to change anything. As fans, I'm not really sure what we can do other than speak with our wallets and not support the NFL or the Chiefs. Of course, there is seemingly an unending supply of rabid fans that would love to have an NFL franchise in their city. Hunt could just move the team somewhere else. Like a lot of things in this world, sometimes life just isn't fair. It's entertainment and a business. This has turned into the same as discussing politics or religion; everyone gets upset and has to be right when the truth is somewhere in the middle. I would like a different head coach and quarterback. Evidently, the Chiefs don't really seem to care what I want. I am just going to accept that the Chiefs aren't going to get the same attention as NE, DEN, LV (Vegas, really?), PIT, IND in the AFC from the media. It simply isn't worth the energy to be upset of something so MEANINGLESS. The Royals winning the world series was exciting however I still get to go to work each day, pay my taxes and live my life. Nothing changed by me saying Hey, The Royals won the WS in 2015. Whoop Dee Doo.
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01-28-2017, 12:08 PM	#385
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2555047	#2 in the AFC because Carr got hurt.
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01-28-2017, 12:08 PM	#386
TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	To put things into perspective...new England's RB unit went from dead last to 12th this season. You don't think that's helped their offense or Tom Brady get better looks? QB rating 102-> 112 Carolina's RBs averaged 30 less yards a game this season from a year ago...and look what happened to Cam's pass productivity. QB rating 99 -> 75 Falcons jumped from 19th to 5th this season in rushing yards. Matt Ryan's QB rating 89-> 117 Every good football coach knows it starts on the ground. And then from there everything begins to open up. Does anyone honestly think the Steelers could have won 9 in a row without Leveon Bell? The dude averaged over 150 yards/game in those games. Last edited by TigeRRUppeRRcut; 01-28-2017 at 12:16 PM..
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01-28-2017, 12:17 PM	#389
TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	Spencer Ware 2015: 5.6ypc , 6 TD's on 72 carries 2016: 4.3ypc, 3 TD's on 216 carries Apparently there are people who don't see this as a problem? GTFO. Spencer Ware was 5x more likely to score a TD per carry in 2015 than this year. Shocking. Last edited by TigeRRUppeRRcut; 01-28-2017 at 12:22 PM..
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