Dolphins working on a trade for offensive tackle Branden Albert

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Branden Albert trade won’t happen unless he lowers his price
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 21, 2013, 6:46 PM EDT
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The much-discussed potential trade of Branden Albert from the Chiefs to the Dolphins doesn’t appear likely at the price Albert is currently seeking.

Although the Chiefs and Dolphins can probably agree on compensation — the Dolphins sending a second-round pick to Kansas City — the hangup is that Albert wants the kind of money that the Dolphins aren’t willing to spend. Specifically, according to Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports, Albert wants between $8 million and $9 million a year on a long-term deal.

In other words, Albert is looking for the same kind of contract that left tackle Jake Long got from the Rams — the very contract the Dolphins wouldn’t give Long, which is why he left Miami for St. Louis.

If the Dolphins weren’t willing to pay Long that kind of money, it’s hard to see why they’d be willing to give up a second-round draft pick for the privilege of paying Albert that kind of money. So the Dolphins may need to look elsewhere for a left tackle. And Albert may have to settle for playing this season for the Chiefs, making $9.8 million, and hitting free agency next year.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

I'll watch.

I'll just watch the first round like I watched almost all of 2012.

Dontari Poe at least had that thin layer of "Hey, maybe he'll be good!"

Luke Joeckel, even if he's good, won't improve this team one bit.

[Deberg_1990]

GM: Worst NFL Draft in past 10 years or more


http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/mi...-years-or-more



There are always a variety of opinions about the NFL Draft. Opinions are like, well, you know. But a high-ranking team executive I trust implicitly says this: "Worst draft in past 10 years or longer."

"When we look back at this draft in five or 10 years," said the team executive, "we might view it as one of the worst we've seen in some time."

What I'm hearing repeatedly from some team personnel men, as the draft gets closer and the honesty increases, is that this draft is subpar. Extremely subpar. Few team personnel want to say anything publicly about the paucity of talent out of fear of hearing from the NFL. There's this thought process that if you criticize the draft, you risk the ire of the NFL; the league doesn't want anyone publicly criticizing the draft out of fear of injuring television ratings.

While it's generally acknowledged that teams can get solid players in later rounds of this draft, the quality of drafts are about franchise players. The exceptional. When a draft has a Manning or Elway or Marino or Newton or RG3, that is when scouts and league personnel marvel and smile.

The problem with this draft, says the general manager, is it possibly lacks two important qualities: franchise quarterbacks and large swaths of impact players. There will be more than a few solid players, this GM predicts, but not a large number of great ones.

"There will be 13-15 players picked in the first round that are true first-rounders," he said. "That's a fairly low number."

Last year, according to the general manager, there were 20-23 players who were true first-rounders. That's about average.

Quarterbacks shape a draft the way they shape teams. This general manager believes that none of the quarterbacks is an actual first-round talent. I find that borderline silly as Geno Smith certainly is; but this GM is not alone in his thinking. It does say a lot about this quarterback class when Ryan Nassib could be a top-10 pick. One scout called him Ryan NaLeaf, a totally unfair comparison to the epic bust, Ryan Leaf. Unfair, but kind of funny.

Many millions of people have been wrong about the draft -- including the experts, the men who do the drafting. Maybe this is a case of that. But I think this is mostly right. I think we'll look back at this draft and wince.

[Strongside]

It's only fitting that we finally get a chance to draft a guy at 1.1 and the fanbase is going to hate him immediately.

[bevischief]

Some of you are going to have a heart attack here soon...

[bevischief]

Originally Posted by Dante84

Oh, she'll let me. I just need to play coy, like I don't expect it.

Going in dry...

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by SNR

This team as it exists right now is 7-9ish.

We've got 6 Pro Bowlers entering the primes of their careers. But we can't expect them to hang around forever. One by one they're going to get old and feeble, and that decline will start very soon for some of them.

And what are we doing to supplement that inevitable future? Building a team around a franchise QB? No? How about stockpiling draft picks? No? Being smart with our free agent dollars? No?

How about using the 1.1 pick to remain stagnant at a position that nobody gives a shit about if you don't have a real QB?

Oh yes, we're doing that. Tread water. That's how you build up. No decline and disease to be found in that strategy whatsoever.

Yup.

The unfortunate truth is that even the 'vastly improved' 2013 KC Chiefs are probably a 9 win team at best. You go through their week to week schedule and it's really difficult to get them to 10 wins.

And thinks to the efforts of Scooter, we only have a couple of more prime seasons out of our best players. Hali's going to be running on fumes this year, IMO and he's going to be the first to fall off. Charles will go in a couple of years and shortly after than we'll see Flowers falter (CBs with limited athleticism tend to crash sooner). DJ is older than we all realize and while he plays a position with decent longetivity, he's also probably looking at only 2-3 more seasons of high level play.

Folks - we're 3 years away from another rebuild. And the front office appears content with rebuilding around a !@#$ing left tackle.

This is exactly what the 2008 Miami Dolphins did - I mean to the !@#$ing letter. Right down to picking up an injury prone QB with multiple shoulder surgeries and a history of check-down passing.

They had Joey Porter at 31, kicking ass and taking names...for a season. Will Allen put out another damn solid season...and was out of football 3 years later. Ronnie Brown was in the prime of his career at 27, ran strong....and was a backup by 2011. Ayodele had been a solid starter for 5 years at ILB, had an okay season at age 30 for the 'phins and was also gone 3 years later.

All this team has that the 2008 Dolphins didn't is Bowe. That's it. And the 2008 Dolphins played well for a season, ate shit, and are now rebuilding how they should have rebuilt in 2008. In the NFL, you get old fast.

I cannot adequately express how disappointed I am in the path this team has chosen. It's just clearly wrong.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by Dante84

ANNNNND

Tomorrow is my birthday. It will be spent in a dark room, talking shit with you assholes.

Then I will go get drunk and try to convince the gf to let me PIIHB

Piss in her bed?

@AdamSchefter: As @Edwerderespn reported, Chiefs-Dolphins resumed trade talks for Branden Albert. This is like Revis deal: has to happen.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

GM: Worst NFL Draft in past 10 years or more

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/mi...-years-or-more

Nonsense.

Even in bad drafts, you can get away with solid talent.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

@AdamSchefter: As @Edwerderespn reported, Chiefs-Dolphins resumed trade talks for Branden Albert. This is like Revis deal: has to happen.

Boom.

[Strongside]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Nonsense.

Even in bad drafts, you can get away with solid talent.

No one ever really knows. There have been drafts that have been supposedly loaded with talent but then those prospects don't pan out.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

It does say a lot about this quarterback class when Ryan Nassib could be a top-10 pick. One scout called him Ryan NaLeaf, a totally unfair comparison to the epic bust, Ryan Leaf. Unfair, but kind of funny.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Nonsense.

Even in bad drafts, you can get away with solid talent.

We should pay general managers millions of dollars and only expect them to make the right call when it's easy - right?

There's going to be elite talent in this draft and we started the off-season in the best position to get it. We'd damn well better come out of this draft with 3-4 starters or I will be unmoved by claims that this was a 'weak draft'.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by SNR

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

GM: Worst NFL Draft in past 10 years or more


http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/mi...-years-or-more



There are always a variety of opinions about the NFL Draft. Opinions are like, well, you know. But a high-ranking team executive I trust implicitly says this: "Worst draft in past 10 years or longer."

"When we look back at this draft in five or 10 years," said the team executive, "we might view it as one of the worst we've seen in some time."

What I'm hearing repeatedly from some team personnel men, as the draft gets closer and the honesty increases, is that this draft is subpar. Extremely subpar. Few team personnel want to say anything publicly about the paucity of talent out of fear of hearing from the NFL. There's this thought process that if you criticize the draft, you risk the ire of the NFL; the league doesn't want anyone publicly criticizing the draft out of fear of injuring television ratings.

While it's generally acknowledged that teams can get solid players in later rounds of this draft, the quality of drafts are about franchise players. The exceptional. When a draft has a Manning or Elway or Marino or Newton or RG3, that is when scouts and league personnel marvel and smile.

The problem with this draft, says the general manager, is it possibly lacks two important qualities: franchise quarterbacks and large swaths of impact players. There will be more than a few solid players, this GM predicts, but not a large number of great ones.

"There will be 13-15 players picked in the first round that are true first-rounders," he said. "That's a fairly low number."

Last year, according to the general manager, there were 20-23 players who were true first-rounders. That's about average.

Quarterbacks shape a draft the way they shape teams. This general manager believes that none of the quarterbacks is an actual first-round talent. I find that borderline silly as Geno Smith certainly is; but this GM is not alone in his thinking. It does say a lot about this quarterback class when Ryan Nassib could be a top-10 pick. One scout called him Ryan NaLeaf, a totally unfair comparison to the epic bust, Ryan Leaf. Unfair, but kind of funny.

Many millions of people have been wrong about the draft -- including the experts, the men who do the drafting. Maybe this is a case of that. But I think this is mostly right. I think we'll look back at this draft and wince.

We'll see, but i've been saying for months now that this draft is 2009-kind of bad.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by SNR

Dontari Poe at least had that thin layer of "Hey, maybe he'll be good!"

Luke Joeckel, even if he's good, won't improve this team one bit.

This is a hilarious post that is very wrong.