Chiefs This was not on the refs - Page 24

Chiefspants · 12-13-2018, 10:33 PM

Bob Sutton. Andy Reid.

These are the people who can cost us the playoffs.

kcpasco · 12-15-2018, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by gold_and_red

Veach did a complete overhaul of the secondary this season too. Parker was brought back out of desperation. Where is Veach magically going to find five DBs? A better route maybe to bring in fresh coaching perspective and let them mold players in their vision. And if that means all current DBs are turds who need to be cut yesterday so be it. But I hope we find a dynamic staff that can get these DBs to play average and that maybe enough for our bazooka on the other side of the ball.

I don’t think management can polish this crop of turds in this secondary. Good news is we have a QB so we can start addressing our needs on defense in the draft.

Management really did drop the ball on this group of DB’s.

**Dartgod** · 12-15-2018, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Let me explain something to you, TinyE :

Those officials have earpieces in their ear, with voices from the NFL office in NY, and the people behind those voices watch every single play and instruct the refs on how they want the plays called.

The refs aren't 'terrible'; they're great employees who do exactly as they are told.

You have a link to the scathing article that exposed this great conspiracy?

I'll wait...

Mecca · 12-15-2018, 10:58 AM

Why is it as the NFL has become worth more money the saturation of refs calling penalties constantly has gone up significantly?

They've created a league where after big plays no one celebrates in the stands cause they look for flags first. So there is always a pause to see if anything is called...that is the environment they have created.

Then people honestly wonder why there is a discussion of games being rigged.

GloryDayz · 12-15-2018, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco

Orlando Scandrick is gonna **** us out of a chance for a championship. Let that sink in.

Are you blaming him or the team's personnel who have him on the field?

Mecca · 12-15-2018, 11:11 AM

Orlando Scandrick was signed 2 weeks before the year started...Parker was brought back what 7 days before the year started? Yea it's not their fault Veach was to stupid to realize the secondary sucked while you know the draft was happening.

He had more fun drafting fat backup front 7 guys who didn't make the front 7 any better either.

InChiefsHeaven · 12-15-2018, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Why is it as the NFL has become worth more money the saturation of refs calling penalties constantly has gone up significantly?

They've created a league where after big plays no one celebrates in the stands cause they look for flags first. So there is always a pause to see if anything is called...that is the environment they have created.

Then people honestly wonder why there is a discussion of games being rigged.

I can't find like a chart or whatever for a history of flags, but I did find an article saying that flags are up 20% since 2009 (article was written after the 2016 season, but there's no reason to believe it's gotten any less):

https://247sports.com/nfl/dallas-cow...2009-48360555/

It's definitely a real thing, and it's ****ing up the game. Then when you add that many of these penalties are subjectively called (PI, Holding etc) it's hard to argue the idea that refs are at least trying to make the games more competitive. I don't think it's directed at specific teams, but it seems more that they are wanting to influence the outcome of games, regardless of who the winner is.

And as a Chiefs fan, I of course feel we get jobbed an awful lot, but just ask any passionate fan of their team in the NFL and they will say the same. Unless they are Pats fans...then they should just hang themselves...

Chris Meck · 12-15-2018, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco

I like Emmit Thomas. He can’t make chicken salad out of chicken shit. This secondary is void of talent besides EB.

Really though? I mean, not a single player has ascended. I mean, you can whiff on a pick here or there, but not a single guy? I mean that's gotta be on the coaching, right?

Measurably, the kids we've drafted should have had a chance to be good. And not a single ****ing one became better in their time here. Not a one.

I mean, even Peters was the same guy he was in year one.

stevieray · 12-15-2018, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Why is it as the NFL has become worth more money the saturation of refs calling penalties constantly has gone up significantly?

They've created a league where after big plays no one celebrates in the stands cause they look for flags first. So there is always a pause to see if anything is called...that is the environment they have created.

Then people honestly wonder why there is a discussion of games being rigged.

Exactly what my wife said the other night..followed by it's just not fun to watch anymore ( because of so many flags)

stevieray · 12-15-2018, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Really though? I mean, not a single player has ascended. I mean, you can whiff on a pick here or there, but not a single guy? I mean that's gotta be on the coaching, right?

Measurably, the kids we've drafted should have had a chance to be good. And not a single ****ing one became better in their time here. Not a one.

I mean, even Peters was the same guy he was in year one.

That's on Emmit Thomas...I thought Bartee was playing... hardly anyone is even looking for the ball.

Flying High D · 12-15-2018, 02:01 PM

1981 draft San Francisco first 5 picks 4 of them DBs. 3 of them started that year. San Francisco won the Super Bowl. Before free agency you drafted for need.

rabblerouser · 12-15-2018, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

That's on Emmit Thomas...I thought Bartee was playing... hardly anyone is even looking for the ball.

You and I are still tied with Bartee for career picks.

Otter · 12-15-2018, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

Exactly what my wife said the other night..followed by it's just not fun to watch anymore ( because of so many flags)

Yep, the refs are ruining the game in so many ways it's ridiculous. No way I'm dropping $600 to see a zebra, yellow flag throwing contest.

**MahiMike** · 12-15-2018, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Looked clean sure, just as some would say it didn't look like much of a push off in the EZ. Again, I think most agree the two plays could have gone either way.

I'm starting to think you're not a Chiefs fan...

Hey wait a minute! What's that avatar you got there?

**MahiMike** · 12-15-2018, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Why is it as the NFL has become worth more money the saturation of refs calling penalties constantly has gone up significantly?

They've created a league where after big plays no one celebrates in the stands cause they look for flags first. So there is always a pause to see if anything is called...that is the environment they have created.

Then people honestly wonder why there is a discussion of games being rigged.

Well put. I said the same after the game.

T-post Tom · 12-15-2018, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Really though? I mean, not a single player has ascended. I mean, you can whiff on a pick here or there, but not a single guy? I mean that's gotta be on the coaching, right?

Measurably, the kids we've drafted should have had a chance to be good. And not a single ****ing one became better in their time here. Not a one.

I mean, even Peters was the same guy he was in year one.

I like Emmitt Thomas, but being a great player doesn't make you a great coach.

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