49ers trade cornerback Kenneth Acker to the Chiefs, most likely a conditional draft p

[Mr_Tomahawk]

49ers trade cornerback Kenneth Acker to the Chiefs, most likely a conditional draft pick, according to a league source


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[staylor26]

Originally Posted by O.city

So is this dude any good? Will he start on the outside?

I doubt it, but he sounds like good depth to have behind Gaines and Peters on the outside while the rookies sit back and learn.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by O.city

So is this dude any good? Will he start on the outside?

I'll be very happy with just average for the time being.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I doubt it, but he sounds like good depth to have behind Gaines and Peters on the outside while the rookies sit back and learn.

I'm concerned with gaines if he can't play a full game yet. Hopefully they're just being careful.

[RunKC]

This move basically says they aren't comfortable with the rookies playing CB right now, and that's fine.
Russell didn't sign until June and missed valuable practice installments, so this is why he isn't playing much IMO. White is the best looking rookie DB, but it would be foolish to rely on him that much.

Peters is Peters. Gaines will be a full go next week after the staff was careful with him, Nelson has looked good in camp and decent overall and we stole an experienced CB to fill the 4th spot and provide insurance in case something happens with the first 3).

I still can't believe that we got a league average CB for a 2018 7th rd pick.

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Somebody needs to get Foles to work on throwing on time or not at all.



Seriously, he underthrew a ball by 10 yards when it went 60 yards in the air. Uh....Nick, if you have to throw a ball 70 yards in order to hit the guy, you should probably just put that one in your pocket next time because that's gonna work out really badly more often than it doesn't.



He should've thrown that ball a full second before he released it. Nice concentration by Hill to fight back for the football but good job by the official for swallowing his flag there and not bailing Foles out. That's not the kind of play that should be considered PI.

Exactly why Alex Smith wouldn't have thrown the ball.




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[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Exactly why Alex Smith wouldn't have thrown the ball.

Not that late anyway.

Smith throws on time or not at all. The play that idiots like Carpenter ragged on him about when he rolled and found Maclin when he had a 'wide open' Wilson is a perfect example. Throwing that ball to Wilson would've been insanely stupid. Passing late and over the middle is pretty much the one thing a QB should never EVER do (doubly so when it's late, over the middle, and across your body). Bray probably tries it and unless he suddenly became Aaron Rodgers, it probably gets picked.

If Smith sees him even with the DB in single coverage, he probably lets it fly as soon as Hill gets to the DBs hip but there's no way the throws that ball when Hill's already 40 yards downfield running a fly route. It was just a remarkably stupid decision.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It was just a remarkably stupid decision.

Which is exactly why Foles is on his third team in three years, this time, as a backup.

I'm happy to have him over Murray, Bray or Hogan but if I had my druthers, would rather have Chase Daniel.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Which is exactly why Foles is on his third team in three years, this time, as a backup.

I'm happy to have him over Murray, Bray or Hogan but if I had my druthers, would rather have Chase Daniel.

It's probably why he won't be here after this year.

[Red Beans]

Originally Posted by Smellway

i'm older than you, turd. don't lecture me.

Translation - "I've ballooned to 600 pounds and lost a leg to the diabeetus."

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Which is exactly why Foles is on his third team in three years, this time, as a backup.

I'm happy to have him over Murray, Bray or Hogan but if I had my druthers, would rather have Chase Daniel.

Actually, I'm going to pump the brakes and take this back.

I didn't recall that it was 3rd down. 3rd and 20 no less. So if the ball is intercepted, it's really no worse than a punt. And it would've been a pretty damn nice net punt at that.

It's essentially the "Eli Manning Doctrine". If you watch the Giants much, you'll see several third and longs where Manning sees that they're probably boned so he'll just chuck that sumbitch as far as he can to see if they get lucky or get bailed out. Worst case scenario is roughly the same starting field position they'd have had anyway.

Looks like that may have been what Foles was doing there. He realized that the play started off bad (it was a bobbled snap, wasn't it?) so the timing routes were all ****ed up. So why not launch it out there and see what happens? Afterall, the alternative is punting on 4th and 20.

So my bad, Nick. I'm still not convinced that you wouldn't have made that same play on 1st down, but on 3rd and 20, it's defensible and perhaps even extremely clever.

[O.city]

Aman if they can get competent play from these young corners, when houston comes back the defense could be really good. Hopefully for a few years

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Actually, I'm going to pump the brakes and take this back.

I still believe that it was just a bad decision. He's made many of them since his breakout season in 2013, which looks more and more like an outlier.

The pass two seasons, he's 59% and 56% completion ratio.

That's bad.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Actually, I'm going to pump the brakes and take this back.

I didn't recall that it was 3rd down. 3rd and 20 no less. So if the ball is intercepted, it's really no worse than a punt. And it would've been a pretty damn nice net punt at that.

It's essentially the "Eli Manning Doctrine". If you watch the Giants much, you'll see several third and longs where Manning sees that they're probably boned so he'll just chuck that sumbitch as far as he can to see if they get lucky or get bailed out. Worst case scenario is roughly the same starting field position they'd have had anyway.

Looks like that may have been what Foles was doing there. He realized that the play started off bad (it was a bobbled snap, wasn't it?) so the timing routes were all ****ed up. So why not launch it out there and see what happens? Afterall, the alternative is punting on 4th and 20.

So my bad, Nick. I'm still not convinced that you wouldn't have made that same play on 1st down, but on 3rd and 20, it's defensible and perhaps even extremely clever.

I hate with a passion when a coach calls a draw or screen or some other "give up" play on a third and long. Throw the ball long. In today's league, you have a fair chance of a PI or illegal contact call. Plus, if it gets intercepted, it's as good as a punt.

Sorry. Pet peeve.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by O.city

Aman if they can get competent play from these young corners, when houston comes back the defense could be really good. Hopefully for a few years

I'm excited to see Acker and hope it's just another instance of Chip Kelly trading away or letting go of talent.

His numbers are pretty impressive and he's got the length that Dorsey desires in his CB's.

Unfortunately, I won't see the game until at the earliest, 1pm PST on Saturday.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Frosty

I hate with a passion when a coach calls a draw or screen or some other "give up" play on a third and long. Throw the ball long. In today's league, you have a fair chance of a PI or illegal contact call. Plus, if it gets intercepted, it's as good as a punt.

Sorry. Pet peeve.

I agree, but I get it.