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Old 11-02-2015, 05:00 PM  
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*** Official 2016 Royals Offseason Repository ***



Well, folks, it has happened. The Royals stand triumphant, atop the heap of MLB.

In this thread, we'll track the action as Dayton Moore continues The Process and attempts to defend the long-awaited title.

Before we get to the meet of it, let's take a minute to reflect ... and say "I'm Sorry" to Dayton Moore.

We gave you hell. Many of us called for your head. But you were right. You got it done. Congratulations. Mea culpa.

Now, let's talk about the offseason:

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The Royals will have a few priorities: Corner OF (x2) and 1 SP, IMO. The rest of the core is solid and will need little tweaking. Looking at the increase in ticket sales, merchandising, concessions, parking, etc., I think it's fair to assume the Royals GROSSED $100 million more this season, or close to it. That gives Glass and Dayton Moore much more flexibility on payroll for 2016 (hopefully).

First order of business will be gauging the Alex Gordon market. If he can be resigned for 4-5 years at around $75-80 million total, it would be hard for KC to pass on that. He's still an above-average corner OF bat, and the Royals will need to bring in at least one proven guy to play in a corner if Gordon walks... and the whole market looks a lot like Alex - guys in their early 30s looking for huge, final contracts.

Second order of business: Make a decision on Zobrist. It sounds like KC will pursue him aggressively. At 34, he's at risk of declining in a big way after a few years. If they could find someone to take on Omar Infante for eating 1/2 of his deal, that would be a great start to things.

If they decide not to spend on Zobrist, KC will need to cobble together some sort of plan for 2B/RF that involves some cheaper options like Orlando, Colon, Dyson, etc.

I could see them deciding his ability to provide great insurance at either 2B or in RF is worth the risk.

Third order of business: Add depth to the rotation with a FA SP. Duffy, Ventura, Volquez and Medlen are locks for 4 spots, it seems. Kyle Zimmer may finally be ready to make a MLB impact, but his innings will be limited. That means KC needs insurance. Will it kill two birds with one stone (and insure against Duffy/Ventura regression) by signing a more top-tier guy? Or does Moore look to Chris Young/someone like him for this depth?

Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years.

Ian Kennedy, Mat Latos, Marco Estrada, and Justin Masterson are some other names that may pique interest (a little further down the list).

Other than that, I don't think KC makes any major moves. Greg Holland will be interesting to observe, as they have one more year of control of him, and he will obviously miss all of that season. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pre-arbitration deal that pays him something like $15 million over the next two seasons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned loose, period.

The bullpen will rest upon Wade Davis/Herrera/Hochevar, filling in pieces around them. Bringing Madson back wouldn't be a surprise, but he could get a big deal from another team that is willing to pay him as their top setup guy or even their closer.

I think the biggest prospects to watch in Spring Training will be:

1) Kyle Zimmer. The hype has built, died down, built again, etc. If he's healthy, he's filthy and a potential ToR arm. But what does he look like in ST, and how many innings can you reasonably expect from him if he does earn a rotation spot? It seems like 120-130 innings would be his limit unless they really stretch (or unless he has a lot of hidden innings from simulated games/extended spring training, which might push him to 150-160).

Having another cheap, home-grown pitcher would be a significant boon for this team as it tries to extend the competitive window (and potentially give KC a strong 1-2 to build its rotation around in Zimmer and Ventura)

2) Bubba Starling. I'm trying to remain skeptical, but I like what I hear about Bubba from this season, and the performance has picked up. If KC does not sign someone to fill the RF slot, I think that's a strong indication KC's front office believes Starling will be ready to contribute in 2016.

Dayton Moore has long said that when Starling's light flips on, it will happen quickly and burn brightly. Time will tell.

After his STRONG Arizona Fall League Performance, he shot up my prospect chart.

3) Miguel Almonte. His late-season stint out of the KC bullpen went poorly, but Almonte has a plus-plus changeup, a good fastball, and a decent curve ball. He may be the dark horse in the rotation competition, and unlike Zimmer, he's set up to pitch a full 180 inning season.

4) RA Mondesi. The only player to debut in the MLB World Series has incredible tools. He still needs to refine his game, but again... he may be KC's best cheap, plus alternative at a key position (2B). His defense would be a boon from Day 1, but he needs seasoning with the bat before he's asked to hold down 2B full time.

And, as always, here are the Prospects:

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Old 11-12-2015, 10:28 AM   #346
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Josh Sherman reports they asked for DeGrom or Harvey straight up.
Makes me question how legitimate they are in wanting to trade him. Sounds like they are just trying to find someone willing to do something stupid. Makes sense that they would start with the Mets.
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Old 11-12-2015, 11:01 AM   #347
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The Bradley interest is... interesting.

Signals to me that perhaps they're planning to move Cain to RF full-time. Not sure Bradley is really much of an upgrade over Jarrod Dyson, other than being younger and cheaper.

LOL at the Braves asking for deGrom or Harvey from the Mets, though the in-division thing may be a factor there. That's pretty silly.
Could a fly ball hit grass with Cain, Dyson, and Bradley in the OF?
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Old 11-12-2015, 11:11 AM   #348
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The Braves would be nuts NOT to ask for something crazy in exchange for Simmons...having said that, I don't see a team giving up what they want.
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Old 11-12-2015, 11:13 AM   #349
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Makes me question how legitimate they are in wanting to trade him. Sounds like they are just trying to find someone willing to do something stupid. Makes sense that they would start with the Mets.
I would imagine their trade requirements for teams not in their division would be a bit lower. The Braves traded with the Mets last year, but that was for guys like Kelly Johnson and Juan Uribe. A bit different when you're trading arguably the best defensive player in the game, and he's not a free agent until 2021. That legitimately hurts your long term chances to win your division, especially with the Mets pitching.
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Old 11-12-2015, 11:14 AM   #350
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Bradley will probably go to RF if the Royals do sign him. Cain isn't leaving CF. remember the Royals love defense and speed.
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Old 11-12-2015, 11:15 AM   #351
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Bradley will probably go to RF if the Royals do sign him. Cain isn't leaving CF. remember the Royals love defense and speed.
You don't know anything about Bradley I see.
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Old 11-12-2015, 11:16 AM   #352
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The Bradley interest is... interesting.

Signals to me that perhaps they're planning to move Cain to RF full-time. Not sure Bradley is really much of an upgrade over Jarrod Dyson, other than being younger and cheaper.

LOL at the Braves asking for deGrom or Harvey from the Mets, though the in-division thing may be a factor there. That's pretty silly.
I doubt Bradley really would be an upgrade over Dyson. Doesn't he K too much for Dayton and the rest of the Royals front office to like him? Not high steal numbers either, but I'm just looking at his player card, haven't seen him play except in a handful of games.
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Could a fly ball hit grass with Cain, Dyson, and Bradley in the OF?
Trade for Simmons, and we will win every game this year 1-0. You will have to hit it out of the yard to beat us.
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Seriously though, I would be all over Teheran in a heartbeat. That's a tremendous value for a talented 24 year old pitcher. Probably will take a ton to get him though. The Braves are loaded with young pitching but I can't believe they'd trade these guys given the value of their contracts.
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Lol Bradley isn't an upgrade to Dyson?
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Could a fly ball hit grass with Cain, Dyson, and Bradley in the OF?
Yes but it would have chalk on it.
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I'm trying to find out how historical of a run Wade Davis has had. I can't recall or find anybody myself that has had a run of two seasons like him at:

72 IP, 1.00 ERA (2014)
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Eckersley? Nope. Mariano Rivera? Nope. Fernando Rodney had the alltime best season but both seasons before and after were not as good.
Wade has been simply legendary.
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You don't know anything about Bradley I see.
Bradley might actually be a better fit long term in RF. He is only average as far as speed goes. He's got amazing instincts and arm, but there is a rather large disparity in speed between Cain-Bradley.
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Seriously though, I would be all over Teheran in a heartbeat. That's a tremendous value for a talented 24 year old pitcher. Probably will take a ton to get him though. The Braves are loaded with young pitching but I can't believe they'd trade these guys given the value of their contracts.
I love the idea of getting Andrelton Simmons. He's the best SS in the game defensively. You could move Escobar to 2B and when his contract is up, use Mondesi. But that is an outside of the box move, and no way they would do that considering it would hurt Escobars feelings and he just won the AL Gold Glove.

Imagine this line up, and this defense. It wouldn't really even matter who your SP was as long as they threw strikes

Gordon, LF
Hosmer, 1B
Cain, RF
Morales, DH
Moose, 3B
Perez, C
Simmons, SS
Escobar, 2B
Dyson, CF

That would just be sick. SICK.
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