NFL Draft Tamba Hali? MOTHER F*** you CARL!! - Page 24

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-02-2010, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Huh? You wouldn't want Demeco Ryans on this team?

Not in lieu of Hali.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-02-2010, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD

Not in lieu of Hali.

Oh, please.

Hali's been a solid player this year for the Chiefs but he took a step back in both 2007 and 2008. He played better in 2009 and has grown into the position but Ryans is a Pro Bowler that routinely registers more than 110 tackles per year and had 155 his rookie year.

Ryans and DJ in the middle would have been devastatingly awesome.

Titty Meat · 12-02-2010, 03:11 PM

Gm's who make bad picks get fired can we please start banning the arm chair Gm's who wiff on players?

Norman Einstein · 12-02-2010, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

Gm's who make bad picks get fired can we please start banning the arm chair Gm's who wiff on players?

Why in the world would you drag up this shit again?

Nothing to see here - move on, move on.

Titty Meat · 12-02-2010, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

Why in the world would you drag up this shit again?

Nothing to see here - move on, move on.

I didn't bump it you cum target. Worst. Troll. Eva

Hootie · 12-02-2010, 04:07 PM

so you'd rather have DeMeco over Hali?

and if so...

Is it really that much of a difference at this point?

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-02-2010, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

so you'd rather have DeMeco over Hali?

and if so...

Is it really that much of a difference at this point?

That's pretty much revisionist history and is a tough call.

If the Chiefs had a healthy Ryans and DJ inside all of these years, I'd imagine they have been much tougher against the run. Hali had down years in 2007 & 2008, so I'd imagine the defense those years would have been improved.

If the Chiefs had Ryans and DJ in 2009, the Chiefs wouldn't have traded for Vrabel but they'd be hurting even worse than they are now at the outside linebacking position, which probably would have forced them to use a #1 or #2 on a pass rushing OLB (at least one) in 2009 & 2010.

It's all speculation but the Chiefs could have Orapko/Cushing/Matthews, Ryans, DJ and another OLB instead of Hali/DJ/Belcher/Vrabel.

The bottom line is that Ryans has been as productive or more productive as Hali since the 2006 draft so if Ryans had been the choice, the Chiefs wouldn't be in a worse position than they are now, which basically means they need an upgrade at the linebacking position.

Again, it's all speculation.

Hootie · 12-02-2010, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Again, it's all speculation.

Yeah...

That was ridiculous.

Uh...

If the Chiefs fired Herm, hired Rex, brought in Bart and drafted Sanchez we'd be the Jets!

TheGuardian · 12-02-2010, 04:08 PM

Both of you guys are right.

Ryans is a really good player. Along with DJ inside that'd be scary.

But he has played on shit defenses. Not really his fault. It's like saying our pass rush sucks because of Tamba.

Tamba and Ryan are two different players. If we get Tamba some helps so that he's literally not being triple teamed half the time next season he might end up being the best outside 3-4 backer in the NFL.

Sfeihc · 12-02-2010, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Tamba and Ryan are two different players. If we get Tamba some helps so that he's literally not being triple teamed half the time next season he might end up being the best outside 3-4 backer in the NFL.

This. Back the **** up off of Tamba.

crazycoffey · 12-02-2010, 04:23 PM

where's the thread/posts about Hali never making the transition to OLB,

....

beach tribe · 12-02-2010, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey

where's the thread/posts about Hali never making the transition to OLB,

....

Hell, Mecca said if he was hired as GM his first move would be to CUT Hali.\And dude has completely disappeared since we turned it around. If we 2-9 he'd be here telling us what a shitty coach, GM, QB, we have.

crazycoffey · 12-02-2010, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Hell, Mecca said if he was hired as GM his first move would be to CUT Hali.\And dude has completely disappeared since we turned it around. If we 2-9 he'd be here telling us what a shitty coach, GM, QB, we have.

that's his thing

ArrowheadHawk · 12-02-2010, 04:23 PM

Cool thread.

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-02-2010, 04:23 PM

Belcher has 62 tackles, Ryans has 54.

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TheGuardian MVP Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $8235299	Both of you guys are right. Ryans is a really good player. Along with DJ inside that'd be scary. But he has played on shit defenses. Not really his fault. It's like saying our pass rush sucks because of Tamba. Tamba and Ryan are two different players. If we get Tamba some helps so that he's literally not being triple teamed half the time next season he might end up being the best outside 3-4 backer in the NFL.
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