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Old 03-02-2015, 11:21 PM   #3409
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Old 03-03-2015, 12:20 AM   #3410
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This isn't true. KenPom said we'd finish 4th.
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Old 03-03-2015, 12:38 AM   #3411
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This isn't true. KenPom said we'd finish 4th.
Next year i would expect a bump from kenpom, probably up to 2nd if not 3rd.
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Old 03-03-2015, 12:39 AM   #3412
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Old 03-03-2015, 12:40 AM   #3413
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KenPom also, according to KC Connection, says this KU team is better than last year's KU team with Wiggins and Embiid ... so ... you know ... have a hard time taking whatever that thing is seriously
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Old 03-03-2015, 12:50 AM   #3414
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has any major conference team ever won 11 straight titles before?
UCLA i believe had 13 straight.
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KenPom also, according to KC Connection, says this KU team is better than last year's KU team with Wiggins and Embiid ... so ... you know ... have a hard time taking whatever that thing is seriously
Yeah, it's not like anybody's ever used the analytics of a well known sports statistician to evaluate players and teams before on this forum. Oh wait...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=289920

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fivethirtyeight is owned and operated by ESPN ; it's like Grantland

and also, a hell of a lot more credible than coldhardbostondotcomwriterfootballfacts.com that is paraded around as fact by the three Patriots fans on this website


The point is ...

A replacement level QB would've gone 13-13 or 12-14 based off of more research than anyone on this website has EVER done over the course of Tom's 26 full postseason games.

The same replacement level QB would've only gone 8-16 on Peyton's teams.

Discuss.
Replace Nate Silver's "FiveThirtyEight" with KenPom and the "three Patriots fans" with you (and your opinion based on absolutely nothing) and there's some real irony here.
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The reason why KU has been better this year (.9142 Pyth) than last year (.9018 Pyth) statistically is primarily because of their defense. They are just better at it this season. Last year, the entire team relied on Embiid to bail them out, never had to develop much in that area, and were worse team defenders as a result. This year, they don't have that kind of crutch and it's forced them to play much better team defense to win games. For example, their improved defense was really the primary reason they won the Texas game on Saturday despite having the lowest eFG% in a victory in the Self era.

That isn't to say that last year's team didn't have more talent or a higher ceiling than this one because it certainly did (at least in my opinion). But the 2013-2014 team never fully got on track the way they could have. Embiid simply wasn't able to stay healthy and be the total force he very likely would have been in March.

Both teams were/are well below the quality of the average Self team, though (which makes winning conference in these years as they did even more impressive).

1. .9753 (2008) *The highest ever rating in his system until this year's UK at .9792 (at least so far).
2. .9635 (2010)
3. .9423 (2012)
4. .9419 (2007)
5. .9409 (2011)
6. 9302 (2013)
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9. .9142 (2015),
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This isn't true. KenPom said we'd finish 4th.
Even he doesn't take those that seriously, but this is apparently what those are based on. Seems a lot of it is just looking at last year's team and going from there (and we both were quite flawed to begin with and also lost quite a bit of talent with the departure of the team's 2 best players).

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Pre-season ratings have been posted for the upcoming season. When I first started doing these before the 2011 season, I thought I was pretty awesome. It was kind of a big deal to get every team’s lineup data, mix in some limited recruiting info, and produce a rating that wasn’t laughably horrible. But then Hanner came along with his lineup-based approach and TeamRankings did something that is probably fairly sophisticated, and my preseason ratings became the simplest algorithm possible without being a complete joke.

The system is largely the same as in recent seasons. It independently predicts a team’s adjusted offensive and defensive efficiency. As a reminder, it uses information split into two categories:

- Base level of the program. This takes into account the last five seasons of data for the same unit (offense for predicting offense) and the last season for the opposite unit (defense for predicting offense). It also includes data for how much money the program has spent on men’s basketball for the last three seasons. The bulk of this component is determined by the most recent season’s performance of the unit.

You can make a decent predictive system just by knowing what is normal for a program. If we were predicting the Big 12 standings in 2025 (assuming the conference exists), it would be reasonably safe to say that Kansas will have a winning record and TCU will have a losing record. We can say that with some confidence even though some of the players on those rosters haven’t picked up a basketball yet.

- Personnel. This component handles who’s coming back from last season’s team and which impact recruits are being added to the roster. More impact is given to returning players from earlier classes. And minutes played by those with a high-efficiency/high-usage profile are particularly important. Recruits in the RSCI top 100 have some influence here as well, although most of the influence is in the top 50.

The goal here is really to get each conference’s pecking order correct and to predict end-of-season ratings. To that extent, if a player is expected to be available by late-January or so, he’s included in the personnel calculations. This applies to Louisville’s Chane Behanan and Florida’s Chris Walker, while Georgetown’s Greg Whittington is not included although he may well see action later in the season.
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The reason why KU has been better this year (.9142 Pyth) than last year (.9018 Pyth) statistically is primarily because of their defense. They are just better at it this season. Last year, the entire team relied on Embiid to bail them out, never had to develop much in that area, and were worse team defenders as a result. This year, they don't have that kind of crutch and it's forced them to play much better team defense to win games. For example, their improved defense was really the primary reason they won the Texas game on Saturday despite having the lowest eFG% in a victory in the Self era.

That isn't to say that last year's team didn't have more talent or a higher ceiling than this one because it certainly did (at least in my opinion). But the 2013-2014 team never fully got on track the way they could have. Embiid simply wasn't able to stay healthy and be the total force he very likely would have been in March.

Both teams were/are well below the quality of the average Self team, though (which makes winning conference in these years as they did even more impressive).

1. .9753 (2008) *The highest ever rating in his system until this year's UK at .9792 (at least so far).
2. .9635 (2010)
3. .9423 (2012)
4. .9419 (2007)
5. .9409 (2011)
6. 9302 (2013)
7. .9194 (2009)
8. 9179 (2006)
9. .9142 (2015),
10. .9034 (2004)
11. .9018 (2014)
12. .9014 (2005)
That's an interesting take, and one i think holds a lot of accuracy. Would like to see the progression of the defensive team statistics over the course of this year. Honestly thought, at the beginning of the season, that this was going to be the worst defensive team since ole Roy was courtside... just from the eye-test, they improved tremendously as the year went along.
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