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duncan_idaho · 10:46 PM

In this thread: All things related to the AL Champions.

Duncan's Official Team Record prediction: 90 wins
One month in: Looking strong
All Star Break: Looking strong, probably should adjust up to 93-94 wins.
Duncan's Official Team MVP prediction: Eric Hosmer
One month in: Upstaged by his best friend MIKE MOOTACOS, MAN. Tell us bout your hittin, bro!
All Star Break: Lorenzo Cain starting to run away with this one.

Division Preview
Clearly, overlooking the Twins was a mistake at this point. I still don't believe in that team long-term, but they're starting to get that Magic Season twinkle about them.

Detroit is toast. Garbage rotation beyond Price and Sanchez, Miggy out.

And Cleveland... Cleveland still is dangerous if it ever clicks offensively, because the starting pitching is good enough for them to real off a 15-5 stretch and get right back into the playoff picture.

The Royals will be a division winner IF ...
1) Ventura and Duffy combine for 375+ innings of high-quality work
2) Eric Hosmer delivers on his potential with a FULL season of success rather than bursts
3) The deeper bullpen lessens the critical load on Herrera, Davis and Holland
4) Lorenzo Cain stays healthy
5) Either Alex Rios or Kendrys Morales bounces back to 2013 form

The first of these is clearly not going to happen. The second looked good through the end of May but is now eating Cain's dust (Hosmer has still been improved this year, though, lessening his valley. If he has a really hot second half, he can get right back in it). Item three is definitely the case. Item four should probably be first at this point. And Morales has more than bounced back.

Duncan’s Top 20 for mid-season 2015:

Spoiler!

1. Raul Adalberto Mondesi, SS, BOTH: Tools, tools, tools. RA has tools galore. At his best, he’s an All-Star SS who plays elite D, hits 15-20 HR, swipes 40 bags, and is an ideal 1, 2 or 3 hitter. At his worst, I think he looks a lot like Alcides Escobar. Plate discipline is his biggest challenge at this point, but evaluators are confident that will come with time. Clear No. 1
2. Kyle Zimmer, RHP: He’s pitching again and staying healthy, which is nice. He’s pitcing out of the bullpen to build back his arm strength, which is less nice. But still has that high upside, just a lower floor now. Ideally, the team will use him as a bullpen weapon in September (because he has earned it) and then give him a chance to transition back to starting for 2016.
3. Miguel Almonte, RHP: Still love the body, FB/CH combo. Results aren’t eye popping, but he’s still low enough and early enough in the development to prize those things over performance. Still a solid No. 3 starter upside, and just a year and some change away from potentially being ready to contribute at the MLB level.
4. Jorge Bonifacio, RF, RH: Emilio’s little brother got off to a horrible start in 2015 but has heated up as the season went on. He also is translating BP power to game power for the first time, with 15 HR just past the mid-way point of his season. Despite his disappointing 2014, he has a chance to build his way back into legit prospect status – and still is only 22. Next challenge for him should be Omaha, but that may wait for the start of the 2014 season.
5. Scott Blewett, RHP: Blewett has a nice two –pitch mix already and is off to a strong start. With his size (6-6) and a good fastball/curveball combo, Blewett could eventually turn into a good No. 3 starter, with a MLB-average changeup.
6. Nolan Watson, RHP: The Royals’ 2015 sandwich pick is a polished prep arm who is adding velocity and explosiveness to a good, polished base. Likely to move quickly.
7. Ashe Russell, RHP: The 2015 top pick probably needs more work than Watson, but the upside is really nice. Again, advanced two-pitch mix that will depend on him adding a changeup. Could be a very good NO. 2 if it all adds up.

Spoiler!

8. Bubba Starling, CF, RH: Starling has been up and down this year but put himself back on the map by greatly improving his K rate while also improving across the slash line as a hitter. His defense and baserunning are MLB ready; if Starling can work himself into a league average hitter, he can be a solid MLB regular who plays great D in CF while hitting 15 HR and swiping 20 bags.
9. Balbino Fuenmayor, 1B/DH, RH: The Balbino came out of basically nowhere in 2015 to earn a Futures Game spot. Big power and an improved two-strike approach have turned the late bloomer into a legit prospect. He’s blocked at the MLB level currently by Eric Hosmer and Kendrys Morales, but Fuenmayor’s combination of power hitting and good average/strike zone control makes him intriguing.
10. Cheslor Cuthbert, 3B, RH: Cheslor probably is not going to be the star KC was hoping for when signing him out of Nicaragua, but he does look like he can be a solid reserve for an MLB club. Good defense at 3B paired with a solid plate approach and some gap power plays fine off the bench. He becomes a lot more interesting if they think he can stick as a 2B, which they have experimented with.
11. Chase Vallot, C/DH/1B: I really like Vallot’s power and plate discipline combo. His bat will probably force him from behind the plate, but he’s held his own despite being extremely young for every level he has faced.
12. Alfredo Escalera-Maldonado, OF, RH: Escalera-Maldonado earned a promotion to Wilmington at age 20, which is pretty advanced movement for that age. He’s an athletic outfielder who has shown some plate discipline at an early age, which is encouraging. Doesn’t sound like he can stick in CF long term for KC, but his bat has become one to watch.
13. Pedro Fernandez, RHP: I haven’t seen much of him, but like the reports I’ve heard on his fastball and general makeup. Could become the next Almonte/Mondesi, though he’s more likely to land in the pen than either of them.
14. Elier Hernandez, OF, RH: Elier Hernanez teamed with Escalera-Maldonado in breaking out at Low-A and earning a promotion to Wilmington. It’s still early for this guy – he is just 20 years old – but he doesn’t take walks and hasn’t developed the prodigious power many thought he had the potential for. Still worth watching.
15. Hunter Dozier, 3B, RH: Dozier is reworking his swing mid-season, which generally will cause production to do what his has done: Nose dive. The changes he made entering the season (seemingly geared towards increasing his power production) were a disaster, and now he’s trying to get back to what he used to be. Still looks great and checks most of the scouting boxes, but the performance hasn’t matched, and it almost knocked him out of the list.
16. Christian Binford, RHP: After a breakthrough 2014, Binford struggled mightily at AAA and suffered a demotion. His upside remains similar – a back-end starter who can eat innings – but Binford’s lack of velocity and reliance on command have caught up to him so far.
17. Marten Gasparini, OF, SH: Gasparini is intriguing because of his speed and athleticism. He’s a LOOOOONG ways from the majors and young for his level, but reports on his bat speed, swing, and speed remain positive enough to keep him on the bubble.

**ChiTown** · 09-24-2015, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I have heard something here. Was told it was NOT chicken pox, that he was viewed as a matchup advantage guy vs. the teams with really good lefty starters.

I think Roenis Elias is a damn fine lefty. Why wouldn't Ned take the opportunity to play Gomes in place of Rios last night - even though Rios drove in our first un with a sac fly? Is he "saving" him for the play-offs? Makes no sense to me.

duncan_idaho · 09-24-2015, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

20,999 pitchers since 1900 have thrown 60+ IP in a season. Three have had an ERA under 0.90. All three have happened since 1990. Can you name any of them?

(PS: Wade Davis 2014 just missed. He was 9th all time at 1.00 flat)

Eric Gagne
Dennis Eckersley

WhawhaWhat · 09-24-2015, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Eric Gagne
Dennis Eckersley

Papelbon maybe too.

Prison Bitch · 09-24-2015, 08:58 AM

Eck 1990 is #2, 0.61. (Some dude actually got a 0.60 in 2012)

ChiefsCountry · 09-24-2015, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown

I think Roenis Elias is a damn fine lefty. Why wouldn't Ned take the opportunity to play Gomes in place of Rios last night - even though Rios drove in our first un with a sac fly? Is he "saving" him for the play-offs? Makes no sense to me.

Getting Rios playing consistent for his timing going into the playoffs. Gomes has been a DH and pinch hitter much of his career not much needed to pop off the bench.

duncan_idaho · 09-24-2015, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Eck 1990 is #2, 0.61. (Some dude actually got a 0.60 in 2012)

I had to look it up.

Would not have guessed that guy in a million years.

Prison Bitch · 09-24-2015, 09:13 AM

Timely, since Ryan was talking last night about how this guy ruined the Mariners season.

duncan_idaho · 09-24-2015, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Timely, since Ryan was talking last night about how this guy ruined the Mariners season.

Ryan just hates him because of his on-field antics and the way he wears his cap.

kstater · 09-24-2015, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown

I think Roenis Elias is a damn fine lefty. Why wouldn't Ned take the opportunity to play Gomes in place of Rios last night - even though Rios drove in our first un with a sac fly? Is he "saving" him for the play-offs? Makes no sense to me.

11 game hitting steak I'd guess.

WhawhaWhat · 09-24-2015, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Ryan just hates him because of his on-field antics and the way he wears his cap.

Fernando Rodney then.

WhawhaWhat · 09-24-2015, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater

11 game hitting steak I'd guess.

.909 OPS in September for Rios too. Gomes would have been better playing LF last night.

Hootie · 09-24-2015, 10:04 AM

Here's the deal ...

Ned has to go into the postseason with one thought:

Wade Davis.

In 1 run games ... this guy needs to be available for 6 outs. At the very least, 4 or 5 if we get into trouble.

Plain and simple.

We need to push Wade beyond comfort. Sounds scary, but the Yankees are doing it with Miller and Betances and there is no reason we can't do it with Wade.

Ideally, the only bullpen guys we need are going to be :

Hoch (5th or 6th)
Herrera (7th)
Madson (8th)
Davis (9th + any trouble in the 8th)

Hootie · 09-24-2015, 10:07 AM

we should also have two different lineups:

against RHP:

Gordon
Zobrist
Cain
Hosmer
Morales
Moose
Rios
Perez
Esky

Against LHP:

Zobrist
Cain
Hosmer
Morales
Gordon
Gomes
Moose
Perez
Esky

JMO.

**petegz28** · 09-24-2015, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

we should also have two different lineups:

against RHP:

Gordon
Zobrist
Cain
Hosmer
Morales
Moose
Rios
Perez
Esky

Against LHP:

Zobrist
Cain
Hosmer
Morales
Gordon
Gomes
Moose
Perez
Esky

JMO.

Gordon needs to be in the #2 spot. He isn't doing very well in the #1 and I think he'll get better pitches in the #2.

Hootie · 09-24-2015, 10:27 AM

how is Gordon not good in #1? Are we referencing his recent 0-22 and ignoring his past years of success ... or ?

07-14-2015, 11:05 PM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1390308	* Official Royals Repository, Part 4 * In this thread: All things related to the AL Champions. Duncan's Official Team Record prediction: 90 wins One month in: Looking strong All Star Break: Looking strong, probably should adjust up to 93-94 wins. Duncan's Official Team MVP prediction: Eric Hosmer One month in: Upstaged by his best friend MIKE MOOTACOS, MAN. Tell us bout your hittin, bro! All Star Break: Lorenzo Cain starting to run away with this one. Division Preview Clearly, overlooking the Twins was a mistake at this point. I still don't believe in that team long-term, but they're starting to get that Magic Season twinkle about them. Detroit is toast. Garbage rotation beyond Price and Sanchez, Miggy out. And Cleveland... Cleveland still is dangerous if it ever clicks offensively, because the starting pitching is good enough for them to real off a 15-5 stretch and get right back into the playoff picture. The Royals will be a division winner IF ... 1) Ventura and Duffy combine for 375+ innings of high-quality work 2) Eric Hosmer delivers on his potential with a FULL season of success rather than bursts 3) The deeper bullpen lessens the critical load on Herrera, Davis and Holland 4) Lorenzo Cain stays healthy 5) Either Alex Rios or Kendrys Morales bounces back to 2013 form The first of these is clearly not going to happen. The second looked good through the end of May but is now eating Cain's dust (Hosmer has still been improved this year, though, lessening his valley. If he has a really hot second half, he can get right back in it). Item three is definitely the case. Item four should probably be first at this point. And Morales has more than bounced back. Duncan’s Top 20 for mid-season 2015: Spoiler! 1. Raul Adalberto Mondesi, SS, BOTH: Tools, tools, tools. RA has tools galore. At his best, he’s an All-Star SS who plays elite D, hits 15-20 HR, swipes 40 bags, and is an ideal 1, 2 or 3 hitter. At his worst, I think he looks a lot like Alcides Escobar. Plate discipline is his biggest challenge at this point, but evaluators are confident that will come with time. Clear No. 1 2. Kyle Zimmer, RHP: He’s pitching again and staying healthy, which is nice. He’s pitcing out of the bullpen to build back his arm strength, which is less nice. But still has that high upside, just a lower floor now. Ideally, the team will use him as a bullpen weapon in September (because he has earned it) and then give him a chance to transition back to starting for 2016. 3. Miguel Almonte, RHP: Still love the body, FB/CH combo. Results aren’t eye popping, but he’s still low enough and early enough in the development to prize those things over performance. Still a solid No. 3 starter upside, and just a year and some change away from potentially being ready to contribute at the MLB level. 4. Jorge Bonifacio, RF, RH: Emilio’s little brother got off to a horrible start in 2015 but has heated up as the season went on. He also is translating BP power to game power for the first time, with 15 HR just past the mid-way point of his season. Despite his disappointing 2014, he has a chance to build his way back into legit prospect status – and still is only 22. Next challenge for him should be Omaha, but that may wait for the start of the 2014 season. 5. Scott Blewett, RHP: Blewett has a nice two –pitch mix already and is off to a strong start. With his size (6-6) and a good fastball/curveball combo, Blewett could eventually turn into a good No. 3 starter, with a MLB-average changeup. 6. Nolan Watson, RHP: The Royals’ 2015 sandwich pick is a polished prep arm who is adding velocity and explosiveness to a good, polished base. Likely to move quickly. 7. Ashe Russell, RHP: The 2015 top pick probably needs more work than Watson, but the upside is really nice. Again, advanced two-pitch mix that will depend on him adding a changeup. Could be a very good NO. 2 if it all adds up. Spoiler! 8. Bubba Starling, CF, RH: Starling has been up and down this year but put himself back on the map by greatly improving his K rate while also improving across the slash line as a hitter. His defense and baserunning are MLB ready; if Starling can work himself into a league average hitter, he can be a solid MLB regular who plays great D in CF while hitting 15 HR and swiping 20 bags. 9. Balbino Fuenmayor, 1B/DH, RH: The Balbino came out of basically nowhere in 2015 to earn a Futures Game spot. Big power and an improved two-strike approach have turned the late bloomer into a legit prospect. He’s blocked at the MLB level currently by Eric Hosmer and Kendrys Morales, but Fuenmayor’s combination of power hitting and good average/strike zone control makes him intriguing. 10. Cheslor Cuthbert, 3B, RH: Cheslor probably is not going to be the star KC was hoping for when signing him out of Nicaragua, but he does look like he can be a solid reserve for an MLB club. Good defense at 3B paired with a solid plate approach and some gap power plays fine off the bench. He becomes a lot more interesting if they think he can stick as a 2B, which they have experimented with. 11. Chase Vallot, C/DH/1B: I really like Vallot’s power and plate discipline combo. His bat will probably force him from behind the plate, but he’s held his own despite being extremely young for every level he has faced. 12. Alfredo Escalera-Maldonado, OF, RH: Escalera-Maldonado earned a promotion to Wilmington at age 20, which is pretty advanced movement for that age. He’s an athletic outfielder who has shown some plate discipline at an early age, which is encouraging. Doesn’t sound like he can stick in CF long term for KC, but his bat has become one to watch. 13. Pedro Fernandez, RHP: I haven’t seen much of him, but like the reports I’ve heard on his fastball and general makeup. Could become the next Almonte/Mondesi, though he’s more likely to land in the pen than either of them. 14. Elier Hernandez, OF, RH: Elier Hernanez teamed with Escalera-Maldonado in breaking out at Low-A and earning a promotion to Wilmington. It’s still early for this guy – he is just 20 years old – but he doesn’t take walks and hasn’t developed the prodigious power many thought he had the potential for. Still worth watching. 15. Hunter Dozier, 3B, RH: Dozier is reworking his swing mid-season, which generally will cause production to do what his has done: Nose dive. The changes he made entering the season (seemingly geared towards increasing his power production) were a disaster, and now he’s trying to get back to what he used to be. Still looks great and checks most of the scouting boxes, but the performance hasn’t matched, and it almost knocked him out of the list. 16. Christian Binford, RHP: After a breakthrough 2014, Binford struggled mightily at AAA and suffered a demotion. His upside remains similar – a back-end starter who can eat innings – but Binford’s lack of velocity and reliance on command have caught up to him so far. 17. Marten Gasparini, OF, SH: Gasparini is intriguing because of his speed and athleticism. He’s a LOOOOONG ways from the majors and young for his level, but reports on his bat speed, swing, and speed remain positive enough to keep him on the bubble. Last edited by duncan_idaho; 10-06-2015 at 10:46 PM..
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09-24-2015, 10:04 AM	#3402
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Here's the deal ... Ned has to go into the postseason with one thought: Wade Davis. In 1 run games ... this guy needs to be available for 6 outs. At the very least, 4 or 5 if we get into trouble. Plain and simple. We need to push Wade beyond comfort. Sounds scary, but the Yankees are doing it with Miller and Betances and there is no reason we can't do it with Wade. Ideally, the only bullpen guys we need are going to be : Hoch (5th or 6th) Herrera (7th) Madson (8th) Davis (9th + any trouble in the 8th)
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09-24-2015, 10:07 AM	#3403
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	we should also have two different lineups: against RHP: Gordon Zobrist Cain Hosmer Morales Moose Rios Perez Esky Against LHP: Zobrist Cain Hosmer Morales Gordon Gomes Moose Perez Esky JMO.
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09-24-2015, 10:27 AM	#3405
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	how is Gordon not good in #1? Are we referencing his recent 0-22 and ignoring his past years of success ... or ?
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