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Old 11-08-2014, 01:39 PM  
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Star Wars Episode VII SPOILERS thread


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Old 12-22-2015, 06:03 PM   #3331
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not insulting anyone that enjoyed the film, it's just my opinion of it.

I wish I enjoyed it like many have!
I follow, I do. This movie was a direct ripoff of A New Hope, there's no denying it, and that's not even mentioning the cannonball sized holes in the script. Maybe it's just the nostalgia factor that is keeping me from being disappointed in it, who knows? I guess I'm just saying that I'm not upset that you feel that way, and I even get why someone would feel that way.

I know nothing of Rian Johnson. What are you anticipating from him as a director for VIII?
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Old 12-22-2015, 06:03 PM   #3332
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If VIII is a rehash of Empire, then I will likely surpass McCloudian levels of disappointment.
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Old 12-22-2015, 06:28 PM   #3333
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Thanks for the info! That scene was very dark in terms of color and contrast in the theater in which I saw it and while I picked up on the facial scar, the hand/arm injury wasn't so clear but it appeared as if she cut it off (same with the eye).

I've been looking for some sort of confirmation on the internet and looked over at theforce.net forums but couldn't find it. It seems like some people saw what I saw and other didn't.

And wow, if people here thought I was overly critical of the film, then don't go over there. I only saw it once, at 11pm after a long day and found the flaws that I've talked about here. People there have seen it multiple times and have written outright dissertations on their dislikes and plot holes, many of which didn't occur to me in real time.
The lovely rage nerds. "I ****ing hated everything about it so I only saw it 14 times"
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Old 12-22-2015, 06:38 PM   #3334
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The lovely rage nerds. "I ****ing hated everything about it so I only saw it 14 times"


Speaking of that, where the hell is Clay? He's not banned, is he?
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Old 12-22-2015, 06:45 PM   #3335
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I know nothing of Rian Johnson. What are you anticipating from him as a director for VIII?
He wrote and directed Looper, which stars Bruce Willis and JGL as a young Bruce Willis. It's a trippy, time travel, revenge type of film.

He also directed a few episodes of Breaking Bad, and maybe the most awesome episode called Ozymandias. It's highly regarded as the best episode in the entire series and some people say it's the finest hour of TV, ever.

As for my expectations? Since he's writing it, I'd expect it to be original, dark, twisted and taught. I doubt there will be much humor in it and I'd expect to have more of an emotional attachment to the characters and events, something I didn't have, at all, with TFA. He's also written the treatment for IX, so I have high hopes, certainly much higher than if it was Abrams/Kasdan again.

My biggest question will be the score. Johnson has used his brother quite frequently and his scores aren't in line with a traditional orchestral score.

And on that note, as I've mentioned a few times, the score was nearly absent for me in TFA. I *think* that had it been stronger, I'd have had more of a connection with the characters but without it, the movie fell flat for me. Certainly, there was no Vader's Theme, Emperor's theme or Dual of the Fates but even worse was there was nothing memorable for any character.
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Old 12-22-2015, 06:53 PM   #3336
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Speaking of that, where the hell is Clay? He's not banned, is he?
Ya, I was looking forward to that review. What gives?
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Old 12-22-2015, 07:08 PM   #3337
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I stand corrected. Here is Clay's facebook post on how he felt about the movie...
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Old 12-22-2015, 07:54 PM   #3338
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not insulting anyone that enjoyed the film, it's just my opinion of it.

I wish I enjoyed it like many have!
The best criticism I've seen, and I didn't even think of it, so I can't take credit, is what it means for the OT.

That final celebration at the end of RotJ is now just a fleeting moment before all the main characters end up miserable. Luke fails, and his nephew either slaughters all the young jedi in training or possibly abducted them all to be trained under Snoke. Han and Leia's son ends up tearing them apart, and the Empire never never really got defeated even if they go by some other name.

All the original heroes it turns out had really shitty lives. That's your reward for trying to do good?
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The best criticism I've seen, and I didn't even think of it, so I can't take credit, is what it means for the OT.

That final celebration at the end of RotJ is now just a fleeting moment before all the main characters end up miserable. Luke fails, and his nephew either slaughters all the young jedi in training or possibly abducted them all to be trained under Snoke. Han and Leia's son ends up tearing them apart, and the Empire never never really got defeated even if they go by some other name.

All the original heroes it turns out had really shitty lives. That's your reward for trying to do good?
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Old 12-22-2015, 08:19 PM   #3340
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that scene on board the freighter reminded me of galaxy quest.. was waiting for tim allen to save the day lmao.
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Confirmation on no hand loss for ren. JJ Said he left who rey really is up to the guy who writes the next film. What planets actually got blown up.

Quite a bit of good info there.
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I stand corrected. Here is Clay's facebook post on how he felt about the movie...
His employer loves it, thus, he's required to as well.
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His employer loves it, thus, he's required to as well.
Clay has a job?

I don't know where he's working now a days.
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Clay has a job?

I don't know where he's working now a days.
The main editor for his company just posted a review stating that Abrams was "brilliant" for copying Star Wars: A New Hope perfectly for a new generation.

IMO, "brilliance" has nothing to do with an outright copy.

On a side note, I was talking to my dad today about The Revenant. He said it sounded like a remake of The Man In The Wilderness, which was made in 1971. I Google it and sure enough, it's a remake, although it's not touted as a remake.

What a load of crap.
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