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Old 12-01-2013, 07:18 PM  
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810 Just said someone got murderd outside Arrowhead

Police: Man who died at Arrowhead was in a vehicle similar to one he arrived in
December 3
BY CHRISTINE VENDEL
The Kansas City Star

A Smithville man who was found in someone else’s Jeep and then died in a struggle outside Arrowhead Stadium Sunday had gone to the game in a similar vehicle that was parked nearby, police said Tuesday.

The Jeep also showed no signs of a break-in, leading police to believe it may have been left unlocked when Kyle Van Winkle, 30, climbed in and sat down.

Police released the additional details Tuesday as they continued to investigate what led to the death of Van Winkle, who had attended the Chiefs game against the Denver Broncos with relatives.

Detectives planned to interview relatives Tuesday to determine when they last saw him inside the stadium.

Police were called to Lot A of the Truman Sports Complex about 5:20 p.m. Sunday on a disturbance. Witnesses told police the Jeep owner had returned to his vehicle with his son, who is about 10 years old, when they realized a stranger was inside. The boy summoned help from several tail-gaters and they engaged in a struggle with Van Winkle, who had been sitting in the Jeep. Van Winkle collapsed and later died at a hospital.

Police did not say how Van Winkle died, but they said his body bore no signs of obvious injury.

Officers arrested three men shortly after the death, but they had to track down the fourth man who was arrested. Police searched one man’s home in Independence on Monday.

Detectives released three of the men Monday night and the fourth man Tuesday morning, pending further investigation.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/12/03...#storylink=cpy

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Old 12-02-2013, 11:17 AM   #316
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I addressed that in that very post.
All they've said is they don't know the cause of death. That doesn't mean they don't know it very likely had something to do with getting beat to a pulp.
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:20 AM   #317
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Yeah, I heard the police officer was hospitalized with fractures to his face.
Yep. I wonder if alcohol was involved?
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:26 AM   #318
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Yep. I wonder if alcohol was involved?
I'm assuming yes, the fireman left his wedding reception and ended up getting into a fight with a cab driver.
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:26 AM   #319
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Came out to go to the gym about an hour ago to find that my Jeep had been stolen overnight. I would very much like to kill whoever took it.
Whoa, seriously?
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:27 AM   #320
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Yep. I wonder if alcohol was involved?
My guess is that alcohol and/or drugs are involved in 90% of murders.

The other 10% are wrestling mishaps.
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:35 AM   #321
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All they've said is they don't know the cause of death. That doesn't mean they don't know it very likely had something to do with getting beat to a pulp.
When it is very likely they know they usually say something like, "Probable cause of death: complications sustained from an ass whuppin'".

Maybe they are being extra tight lipped on this one for some reason. I can't imagine why but, it is certainly possible. All I am doing is reacting to the information they are giving us.
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:40 AM   #322
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Whoa, seriously?
Yeah, it sucks. I'm not keeping my fingers crossed, but I'm hoping they find it abandoned somewhere. I planned to keep that thing as my winter vehicle forever.
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:47 AM   #323
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When it is very likely they know they usually say something like, "Probable cause of death: complications sustained from an ass whuppin'".

Maybe they are being extra tight lipped on this one for some reason. I can't imagine why but, it is certainly possible. All I am doing is reacting to the information they are giving us.
"Complications sustained from an ass whuppin" would NOT be a situation where it is very likely they know right away.

"Gunshot wound to head, brain exposed with 1/2 missing" is a situation when IT IS very likely that they know right away.
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:52 AM   #324
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Yeah, it sucks. I'm not keeping my fingers crossed, but I'm hoping they find it abandoned somewhere. I planned to keep that thing as my winter vehicle forever.
I had a vehicle stolen once. It showed up on a county road, burned out.

The dickhead had stolen the leather seats out of it, then torched it. I didn't mind because I was insured and got a new 4Runner out of the deal, which I'd always wanted.
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:58 AM   #325
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I had a vehicle stolen once. It showed up on a county road, burned out.

The dickhead had stolen the leather seats out of it, then torched it. I didn't mind because I was insured and got a new 4Runner out of the deal, which I'd always wanted.
This is my 3rd in 20 years. Lost one, recovered one, and now this one. It's just a regular workhorse, 12 year old Jeep. I'm hoping someone just needed a ride and dumped it when they got to where they were going and somebody calls to have it towed when they're tired of looking at it.

I may have joyrided a few vehicles back in the day, so it's all in the game.
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Old 12-02-2013, 12:05 PM   #326
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"Complications sustained from an ass whuppin" would NOT be a situation where it is very likely they know right away.

"Gunshot wound to head, brain exposed with 1/2 missing" is a situation when IT IS very likely that they know right away.
If that only rates a very likely, then I just don't know what to say.
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I had a vehicle stolen once. It showed up on a county road, burned out.

The dickhead had stolen the leather seats out of it, then torched it. I didn't mind because I was insured and got a new 4Runner out of the deal, which I'd always wanted.
Someone I know had their truck stolen, joyrided around, and then left on some railroad tracks... a train hit it.
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Old 12-02-2013, 12:10 PM   #328
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Old 12-02-2013, 12:11 PM   #329
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If that only rates a very likely, then I just don't know what to say.
I think you are missing the point.

Also, the head wound could have been post-mortem. Don't you ever watch Law & Order?
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