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Old 10-06-2008, 09:35 AM   #1
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he's fine and has some potential on the left side. on the right side for whatever reason he's not very good.
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Old 10-06-2008, 10:26 AM   #2
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he's fine and has some potential on the left side. on the right side for whatever reason he's not very good.
He's a 3rd, and long LE. He gets pushed around in the run game. We need a legit RE, and Turk is our LE. Hali is a bust. Unless you consider his role of third DE worth a 1st rounder.
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Old 10-06-2008, 10:31 AM   #3
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He's a 3rd, and long LE. He gets pushed around in the run game. We need a legit RE, and Turk is our LE. Hali is a bust. Unless you consider his role of third DE worth a 1st rounder.
Ouch.

I struggle with calling him a "bust", but when you look at it that way...
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Old 10-06-2008, 10:47 AM   #4
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Ouch.

I struggle with calling him a "bust", but when you look at it that way...
It hurts me too bro, but it is what it is.
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Old 10-06-2008, 10:29 AM   #5
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Great plan for Jared Allen's replacement, if you don't like sacks or run-stopping, that is.
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Old 10-06-2008, 10:42 AM   #6
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imo, Hali is a bust

he is a joke against the run, on either side....and got his ass beat by a rookie nobody yesterday play after play after play....

he didn't even seem to give much of an effort, to me....

he's at best a rotational DE, on obvious passing downs...otherwise, he's worthless...

not what anyone expected for a 1st round pick
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Old 10-06-2008, 10:49 AM   #7
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he is hurt all the time too. He never seems to be 100%
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Old 10-06-2008, 10:57 AM   #8
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Where's Cochise?

I wanted Kiwanuka or Lawson. I don't think those guys have done any better.
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Old 10-06-2008, 10:20 PM   #9
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Where's Cochise?

I wanted Kiwanuka or Lawson. I don't think those guys have done any better.
Kiwanuka hasn't been bad actually, Lawson tore his ACL last year.
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Old 10-06-2008, 11:56 PM   #10
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Where's Cochise?

I wanted Kiwanuka or Lawson. I don't think those guys have done any better.
Kiwi has been better, but Lawson is probably a bust.
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Old 10-07-2008, 09:38 AM   #11
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Kiwi has been better, but Lawson is probably a bust.

While Kiwi has made great strides, and lucky enough to learn from 2 of the best in the business, he's been EXTREMELY streaky, and like people that bitch about JA getting his sacks in bunches, he's the same way.

I'm fine with that, but others want a steadier sustained results.

IMO, it comes down to the fact that Hali is has been moved out of his more natural position. Sometimes it is amazing how we have personnel that can look so shitty for us, we let him walk or he signs elsewhere and actually seems to do well b/c he's targeted to sign b/c they see where he could be valuable in their scheme instead of trying to be like the Chiefs- round hole, square peg. Watching them do this with numerous guys is like witnessing Slingblade take the Wonderlic
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Old 10-06-2008, 01:50 PM   #12
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My stupid thought of the day: Can he play MLB?

But seriously. Someone else said it looks like he's giving up a lot and I agree. I don't know how hurt he is, but he'll come off the snap and get pushed backwards on passing downs. He's not a great speed guy and he's not big enough to overpower LT's. The only area that he was ever good at was pursuit when the RB would break a 20 yarder.
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Old 10-06-2008, 01:54 PM   #13
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He should be our LE and we should just let Johnston be our RE for the rest of the year. Let McBride sub in at DE and DT.
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Old 10-06-2008, 02:39 PM   #14
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Does anybody else remember the sweep play yesterday on which he stunted to the inside and blocked the entire left side of our defensive line out of pursuit. It was absolutely epic. As if abandoning your contain responsibility wasn't enough but you had to take yourself and two other linemen out at the same time.
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When you look back at this draft....some of the picks people were iffy about are the best picks...

Whitner was considered a reach he's one of the best players, people were worried about Cromartie likewise with him.

I guess the people who flipped out had a right to because well this didn't work out.
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