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He strangled that one guy too.
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Gee that was eloquent.
A well-reasoned response be damned eh?
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2. Walt poisoning Brock was a play to convince Jesse that Gus Fring was the danger that needed to be dealt with. That was about survival. The kid didn't die. 3. Walt watched Jane die because he knew that otherwise Jesse ODs a month later with a dufflebag full of cash, ZERO self-control, and a relapsed junkie girlfriend by his side. He was torn up to see Jesse so hurt by it. It was him who paid for Jesse's rehab. 4. Had Walt not snuffed Gale out, he dies at the hands of Mike. Survival again... Quote:
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He couldn't stand Hank giving credit to some other "mastermind." So he was willing to blow his entire family's cover He couldn't stand Gus and Mike handling the business side of the operation, and so he eliminated those guys He couldn't stand the thought of other people thinking less of him, so he lied to family (Hank, Marie, Walt Jr.) about Skyler, threw her under the bus, and made her look like the bad guy to save his own face He couldn't stand the thought of his colleague making money off his ideas, so he blocked Jesse from exiting so that he could basically outslug his colleague The only self-preservation is saving his own face and satisfying his own ego. He's had multiple opportunities to "preserve" himself by exiting and keeping his mouth shut. But has chosen not to. |
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There might be only one thing I can say that Walt has done...the entire series...that was gratuitous (killing Mike, but even that is open for debate). It's ALL been about survival.
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Jesse is a guy who at least tries to "break good" and shows remorse for his actions. Mike pays off snitches when he has the option of killing them, and ends up staying in the game for the sake of his granddaughter. Marie broke bad early, then has been a redeeming character since. Agree on the complexity of the characters. But think it's pretty clear that Gilligan is purposely showing Walt as an extremely fallible character. Despite what some have said here, think he's doing the same for Hank too, so I don't think he's necessarily setting up a showdown between good and evil. |
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Am I the ONLY person that doesn't want this to come down to Jesse and Walt?
I would absolutely HATE that. Jesse was a meth dealer before Walter White ever came along. He is NOT the innocent, helpless child some of you make him out to be.
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I've always said that Breaking Bad is the opposite of House, M.D. House was a drama with a moral spine that looked at how choices affect relationships. Br Ba is a drama with a moral spine that looks at how relationships affect choices.
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I saw it asked earlier, but wasn't it revealed that Gus Fring made the call to warn Hank about the hitmen?
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I think the reason Jesse is an interesting character is he's a guy who breaks bad who repeatedly tries to break good. The reason the word sociopath gets thrown around for Walt is that he's not even human anymore. He's completely lost his concept of right and wrong, and has no remorse for what he does. Skyler was a character that unexpectedly took this turn for the worse. But he can't because he has no control. in some cases, it's his own addictions. In others, it's because he's being manipulated and toyed with. But he's the only guy making the effort and one of the only characters with the humanity to realize what his actions are doing to people. |
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