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Old 02-26-2024, 09:19 PM   #301
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Top ILBs have started getting 15+m per recently. I'd say Foyesade Oluokun is a pretty prime example. Veach might spend it. I wouldn't do it for a LB myself. Churn day 2 picks and FAs IMO.

Id much rather spend 30m for a WR like jj than 15 for a inside backer


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Old 02-26-2024, 09:19 PM   #302
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I used to feel that way but after seeing what LB's have done for our defense...I dunno.
Alot of stellar day 2 LBs this year too. I'd like to see us try to get ahead of the curve there.
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Old 02-26-2024, 09:21 PM   #303
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Alot of stellar day 2 LBs this year too. I'd like to see us try to get ahead of the curve there.
We just got alot of needs to get ahead off. We've crushed some drafts and it's just gonna need to keep happening.
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Old 02-26-2024, 09:22 PM   #304
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Eh, I hope it doesn't drop. They've got the setup to keep it going.

It's just super rare.
It’s definitely hard to sustain that. I also hope it doesn’t drop, but if they hit on 50%, that’s pretty good. Now 50% of 8-10 picks does far more for the roster than 5-6 picks which is why I don’t like them throwing a lot of picks for any player who is not a QB.
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Old 02-26-2024, 09:23 PM   #305
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Cool, but would you rather spend 2 1st round picks to have the privilege of paying 30mm to JJ or spend 15mm on Bolton? Because that’s more a semblance of the actual discussion.
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Old 02-26-2024, 09:29 PM   #306
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Cool, but would you rather spend 2 1st round picks to have the privilege of paying 30mm to JJ or spend 15mm on Bolton? Because that’s more a semblance of the actual discussion.
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I read somewhere chiefs can free up 60 million by restructuring mahomes cutting mvs and by turning some of jawaan taylor salary into a bonus
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I read somewhere chiefs can free up 60 million by restructuring mahomes cutting mvs and by turning some of jawaan taylor salary into a bonus
The bill comes due.
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The bill comes due.
In this case, not entirely.

The cap hit for Mahomes in 2028 is 28,175,000.
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Remember when they lost their LB and replaced him with some street FA? I do remember Kelce having his way with him in that game. KC lost Bolton for some time in the season? Yup, plug and play Tranquil. KC’s probably losing Gay and it’s not considered a huge loss due to Chenel. That’s what depth and affordable contracts get you.
Exactly. That's precisely why I don't understand the urgency some have to shed picks and take on huge salaries. Our depth has been CRITICAL to our success. Trading that depth (and future depth) for a large contract doesn't make much sense at all.
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I'd really like to know from the group that thinks we'd be "ruining the future" how you've come to that conclusion. Not in a dickhead kind of way, just a genuinely curious kind of way.

I look at it as "I can recoup day 2 and 3 picks if I just tag and trade Sneed or Jones and sign the other" and so I'm giving up two #32 picks. They aren't worth nothing, but I also know that I'm going to likely spend one of those on a WR anyhow so I'm losing a #32 pick in reality. So, from that perspective, I'm okay with losing one pick for a generational player. The likelihood of me getting a franchise LT at 32 is about as good as me getting one at 64 or 134 for that matter.

The cap side of it tells me I don't much care. I can make things work to retain one of our defensive stars, whether that is Jones or Sneed, if I want to this offseason on top of this trade. I don't care about 2026 because I know, as well, that I have all of 10 players on contract for that season as it stands.

So you're only extreme concern has to be 2025. If all I'm overly concerned with losing is a Center, a Guard, and a LB, I'm not all that concerned. If I'm being realistic, I'm probably cutting Thuney to retain Smith and Creed and then filling Thuney's spot. If Bolton plays another full season like he's been playing, the chances of us retaining the guy are almost zero anyhow. There are plenty of ways to massage this from a cap perspective.

I guess I just don't get the fear of making a splash move.
How many 1sts are you trading for him? How many other picks? How much are you then paying him?
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I'm sure Spags is cool with replacing the QB of his defense, I'm just not sure who we're replacing him with.
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I'd really like to know from the group that thinks we'd be "ruining the future" how you've come to that conclusion. Not in a dickhead kind of way, just a genuinely curious kind of way.

I look at it as "I can recoup day 2 and 3 picks if I just tag and trade Sneed or Jones and sign the other" and so I'm giving up two #32 picks. They aren't worth nothing, but I also know that I'm going to likely spend one of those on a WR anyhow so I'm losing a #32 pick in reality. So, from that perspective, I'm okay with losing one pick for a generational player. The likelihood of me getting a franchise LT at 32 is about as good as me getting one at 64 or 134 for that matter.

The cap side of it tells me I don't much care. I can make things work to retain one of our defensive stars, whether that is Jones or Sneed, if I want to this offseason on top of this trade. I don't care about 2026 because I know, as well, that I have all of 10 players on contract for that season as it stands.

So you're only extreme concern has to be 2025. If all I'm overly concerned with losing is a Center, a Guard, and a LB, I'm not all that concerned. If I'm being realistic, I'm probably cutting Thuney to retain Smith and Creed and then filling Thuney's spot. If Bolton plays another full season like he's been playing, the chances of us retaining the guy are almost zero anyhow. There are plenty of ways to massage this from a cap perspective.

I guess I just don't get the fear of making a splash move.
Jones is not gonna get tagged and traded. Why is this option even being considered still?
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Jones is not gonna get tagged and traded. Why is this option even being considered still?
It's just a thing everyone talks about and it's not out of the realm. That said, my personal belief and hope is that Chris is signed and I think that if there is a player tagged and traded it will be Sneed. Even then, I'm fine with letting Sneed walk to retain Chris, he's just more important and less easily replaced.
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It's just a thing everyone talks about and it's not out of the realm. That said, my personal belief and hope is that Chris is signed and I think that if there is a player tagged and traded it will be Sneed. Even then, I'm fine with letting Sneed walk to retain Chris, he's just more important and less easily replaced.
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1) Chris will NOT be tagged and traded. Period.

2) NEITHER player is easily replaced.
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