Tom Brady; least clutch QB in NFL history?

[Hootie]

(Slow day at work for me, guys):

Tom Brady:

2005: Gets crushed by Jake Plummer and the Denver Broncos. Plays HORRENDOUSLY. Embarrassingly bad.

2006: Blows an 18 point lead to Peyton Manning in the AFCCG. Plays horrendously, and ends the game in Indy territory throwing a game ending INT to Marlon Jackson. Great clutch play.

2007: 18-1. Scores 14 points in the Super Bowl in a game they are favored to win by 13.5. Also, in the AFCCG against the Chargers, he posted a QB rating of 18 and threw 3 INT's. Very clutch, I know.

2008: KNEE CRUSHER; Cassel wins 11 games as starting QB.

2009: Gets OBLITERATED by Joe Flacco and the Ravens. Loses the game single-handedly in the 1st quarter and posts a WHOPPING QBR OF 4.2. Not a typo. FOUR POINT TWO. FOUR POINT TWO. In reference, Peyton posted a 24.4 last year against Seattle in the Super Bowl. So picture how bad that performance was, and multiply it by about 25.

2010: Lost @ home to MARK SANCHEZ AND THE JETS. But don't worry guys, Tom Brady doubled his QBR in this one and posted a respectable 8.7 EIGHT POINT SEVEN.

2011: Got to the Super Bowl by beating Tim Tebow, playing HORRENDOUSLY against the Ravens (again) in the Lee Evans game, and then overthrowing Welker to lose another Super Bowl. Clutch.

2012: Got obliterated by Joe Flacco and the Ravens despite being favored by 7. He posted a respectable 40 QBR, though, and only lost by 15 ... despite Peyton beating the team the week before only to be Rahim Moore'd. Great clutch play.

2013: Beat Andrew Luck despite throwing 0 TD's. Lost to Peyton Manning, while playing another mediocre game. 1 TD. Very clutch, Mr. Brady!

So, in short, the biggest playoff choking QB in the NFL right now is Tom Brady. In all of those aforementioned choke jobs, he was favored to lose TWICE, both to Peyton Manning (both losses).

Any more myths you want be to bust?

4.2 QBR and 8.7 QBR is Rex Grossman bad, in case anyone wanted a reference point.

[GoChargers]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

how is that any different then what Tom did against NYG when the Pats were literally 1 game away from being the unquestioned best team in NFL history? Instead, 18 - 1 and now it's a huge joke.

Fivehead lost by 35. We literally haven't seen a Super Bowl blowout like that since the '90s. Only 8 points from his "GOAT offense." And the narrative around the game was that the GOAT quarterback Fivehead was going to destroy that overrated, gimmicky, steroid-fueled "Seadderal" defense. Even by Fivehead's lofty standards, that was an epic choke.

They were a TERRIBLE matchup for Manning and his short passing game. I was a huge Seattle mark last year.

And the Giants were a bad matchup for Brady. Why does Fivehead get the "bad matchup" excuse but not Brady? Oh yeah:

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[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

One could definitely make that argument. He's lost 8 games (6 of them when he was favored) and 2 to Manning (the games he was not favored) in his last 8 playoff appearances.

That is the very definition of choking...is it not?

thats not the point hoot.

you said it. then you said you didnt say it, i just pointed THAT out

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Let's get TOTALLY away from Peyton Manning here:

Please explain to me how the clutchest QB in NFL history can have such terrible postseason exits in 8 straight playoff appearances?

because no other qb has been as clutch as him in their career? (not saying that is my belief, but that the way he would be considered the clutchest. others would have to be considered not as clutchy. Just so you understand how it works)

[GoChargers]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Let's get TOTALLY away from Peyton Manning here:

Please explain to me how the clutchest QB in NFL history can have such terrible postseason exits in 8 straight playoff appearances?

Brady's not the most clutch quarterback. That honor goes to either Joe Montana or Otto Graham. And yes, Brady's postseason resume has been overrated for the last decade.

But let's be real. Saying "let's get away from Manning" is disingenuous, because like every other time you broach this subject, you are really just trying to downplay Brady to make your beloved Fivehead look better. And Fivehead is undeniably a bigger choker than Brady, or anyone else for that matter.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

how is that any different then what Tom did against NYG when the Pats were literally 1 game away from being the unquestioned best team in NFL history? Instead, 18 - 1 and now it's a huge joke.

You mean besides the whole "Brady's in a walking boot because of injury, and he can barely move" thing against a pass rushing team?


Atta boy, Hootie. Keep digging that hole.

[Brock]

"Let's get away from Manning"

I can see why you would want to.

[RobBlake]

Originally Posted by GoChargers

Brady's not the most clutch quarterback. That honor goes to either Joe Montana or Otto Graham. And yes, Brady's postseason resume has been overrated for the last decade.

But let's be real. Saying "let's get away from Manning" is disingenuous, because like every other time you broach this subject, you are really just trying to downplay Brady to make your beloved Fivehead look better. And Fivehead is undeniably a bigger choker than Brady, or anyone else for that matter.

Brady's post season resume is not overrated JFC lmao. He has some historical records in the post season, esp in terms of accomplishments.

He isn't the most clutch but he is one of the most clutch.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

You mean besides the whole "Brady's in a walking boot because of injury, and he can barely move" thing against a pass rushing team?


Atta boy, Hootie. Keep digging that hole.

LMFAO

Keep on making those Brady excuses!!!

He openly mocked Plaxico Burress for suggesting the Pats would only score 17.

And then he puts up 14.

My God, it's awesome. Patriots homers are THE WORST.

[Nightfyre]

There aren't even any patriot homers in the thread.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by RobBlake

Brady's post season resume is not overrated JFC lmao. He has some historical records in the post season, esp in terms of accomplishments.

He isn't the most clutch but he is one of the most clutch.

how is he 'one of the most clutch' when he, during the prime of his career when his team is ALWAYS a top 3 seed in the AFC, has 8 straight playoff exits and some really terrible games when his team was favored to win?

If you're favored to win, you don't have an excuse. You win the ****ing game. That means, your team is better, and they think they are better than X amount of points.

He has lost 6 of those in the past 8 playoff appearances ... and 2 more games where HE WASN'T FAVORED both to, yep, you guessed it ... Peyton Manning (including blowing an 18 point lead).

This is not CLUTCH. This is the opposite.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

LMFAO

Keep on making those Brady excuses!!!

He openly mocked Plaxico Burress for suggesting the Pats would only score 17.

And then he puts up 14.

My God, it's awesome. Patriots homers are THE WORST.

You specifically asked for what was different. I pointed out an obvious difference.

Quit acting like such a ****ing moron.

[Hootie]

when you were your god damn division every ****ing year for a decade and come out of it with 2 Super Bowl losses and some really ugly home playoff losses ...

I just can't fathom how that is considered "all-time clutch" performance.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

You specifically asked for what was different. I pointed out an obvious difference.

Quit acting like such a ****ing moron.

Brady is listed as questionable on every ****ing injury report every ****ing year.

18-1.

There is no ****ing excuse for 18-1. They were FAVORED BY 13.5 POINTS.

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[Donger]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

when you were your god damn division every ****ing year for a decade and come out of it with 2 Super Bowl losses and some really ugly home playoff losses ...

I just can't fathom how that is considered "all-time clutch" performance.

Do you even remember how you chose to title this thread?

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Brady is listed as questionable on every ****ing injury report every ****ing year.

18-1.

There is no ****ing excuse for 18-1. They were FAVORED BY 13.5 POINTS.

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Your trolling sucks. You're repeating the same bullshit time and again.

And, of course there's an excuse for the loss, you moron. The list of legit reasons is quite long, in fact. It just doesn't matter in the end, because they lost. Having legit reasons for losing doesn't change that. It just gives legit reasons.