Chiefs Donald Stephenson suspended 4 games - Page 21

WakkaWakka · 08-22-2014, 12:35 PM

“@ArrowheadPride: Donald Stephenson suspended first 4 games of the season, according to NFL”

Violating PED policy

http://sbnation.com/e/5821498

OldSchool · 08-22-2014, 05:57 PM

Side Note: Eli Manning looks like crap, lol.

Sandy Vagina · 08-22-2014, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Side Note: Eli Manning looks like crap, lol.

really does...

mcaj22 · 08-22-2014, 06:08 PM

the front sevens we have to face in the first four weeks

Titans - Run a 3-4 now, this might be the most underrated front 7 in the NFL nobody is talking about

D-Line
Ropati Pitoitua
Sammie Lee Hill
Jurrell Casey

LBs
Derrick Morgan
Wesley Woodyard
Zach Brown
Kam Wimbley

Derrick Morgan is going to beat whoever we put on the right side of the line all day. Jurrell Casey is going to manhandle Jeff Allen and those MLBers are going to blitz the shit out of the gaps. This is going to be a horrible matchup of finesse and power.

Broncos

D-Line
Derek Wolfe
Slyvester Williams
Terrance Knighton
Demarcus Ware

LBs
Von Miller
Nate Irving
Some Scrub

I hate the Broncos, and I don't want to say a good thing about this team but I don't see what offensive lineman we have that will stop any of these guys. I guess if you're in the camp that Derek Wolfe and Slyvester Williams are overrated/done nothing, but we will have literally scrub players trying to block them. They at least have to play a scrub at ROLB because Trevathan is hurt, that's the silver lining I guess. I still think this is the easiest front 7 we have to play out of the first four.

Dolphins -

D-line
Cam Wake
Randy Starks
Earl Mitchell
Olivier Vernon

LBers
Wheeler
Misi
Ellerbe

it didn't matter who is starting at tackle for us here because we are absolutely going to lose this matchup no matter what. Wake and Vernon will feast on Fisher + Scrub/Stephenson/Whoever they want put out there. We are are screwed in the short pass/flats/dump off game because the LBers are rangey coverage guys that just run to the flats.

New England
D-line
Ninkovich
Wilfork
Tommy Kelly
Chandler Jones

LBers
Jaimie Collins
Mayo
Hightower

I guess this is the worst of the four front 7s but Wilfork will line up over Zach Fulton and require that entire side of the line to block him, so it's moot lol.

I don't see anywhere really where our offensive line has an advantage the first four weeks. Poor Fisher has to block some really good pass rushers lol

chiefzilla1501 · 08-22-2014, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The '04 season was just a bunch of regression, injury, bad luck, and aging. This offseason has been a complete cluster****.

I disagree. It's not a cluster**** if this is a continuing philosophy going forward.

Devaluing offensive lineman. Give young unproven guys a chance to compete
Draft players who play high positional value spots and stick to your board
Don't flinch on big contracts like we did Dwayne Bowe
Don't throw money at free agents if you're not in a cap position to do so

I didn't like the way we approached 2013. This season we're approaching it the right away. We walk into next season with a healthy cap situation and a shitload more picks. Like I've said before, we sink or swim with the draft and Dorsey's value pickups. If Dorsey's picks don't pan out, we sink. If they start to show progress, we swim. I'm a lot more worried about Dorsey's ability to draft than I am his approach in 2014, though I'm much more encouraged about the prospects from this year's draft haul.

**Mav** · 08-22-2014, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Side Note: Eli Manning looks like crap, lol.

Hes elite according to someone

chiefzilla1501 · 08-22-2014, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

Hes elite according to someone

Eli is a terrific QB. If the dumb ****ers in the front office would get it through their head that they have to give him a running game. One of the easiest positions to upgrade through the draft and they decide that Rashad Jennings is going to be their top gun?

**Meatloaf** · 08-22-2014, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I disagree. It's not a cluster**** if this is a continuing philosophy going forward.

Devaluing offensive lineman. Give young unproven guys a chance to compete
Draft players who play high positional value spots and stick to your board
Don't flinch on big contracts like we did Dwayne Bowe
Don't throw money at free agents if you're not in a cap position to do so

I didn't like the way we approached 2013. This season we're approaching it the right away. We walk into next season with a healthy cap situation and a shitload more picks. Like I've said before, we sink or swim with the draft and Dorsey's value pickups. If Dorsey's picks don't pan out, we sink. If they start to show progress, we swim. I'm a lot more worried about Dorsey's ability to draft than I am his approach in 2014, though I'm much more encouraged about the prospects from this year's draft haul.

Nice take Zilla. Hope you're right about it being more about continued philosophy than simple reaction.

OldSchool · 08-22-2014, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Eli is a terrific QB. If the dumb ****ers in the front office would get it through their head that they have to give him a running game. One of the easiest positions to upgrade through the draft and they decide that Rashad Jennings is going to be their top gun?

So as long as you give Eli Manning a dominant running game, more dominant WRs than they already have, a great OL, and a great pass rushing defense, he's a great QB.

Red Dawg · 08-22-2014, 07:38 PM

Will we have a top ten pick? I say yes. What do you do with it? Draft a WR, tell Alex to walk and turn the beast Bray loose? Oh hell yeah!

chiefzilla1501 · 08-22-2014, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool

So as long as you give Eli Manning a dominant running game, more dominant WRs than they already have, a great OL, and a great pass rushing defense, he's a great QB.

They have a terrible o-line. And they have a god awful run offense.

But yes, if he had at least an average run offense, I think he'd be back to normal. I predicted the same for Big Ben and was right. And no, I don't think just anybody can do that. Not every QB would thrive in an offense where they have to complement a running game or run a balanced offense.

Chief Roundup · 08-22-2014, 07:42 PM

Easy now, not sucking on a Manning is a berating offense in these QB guru parts. After all that non call followed by a miracle catch had nothing to do with him being a SB champion. Eli is proof that there are QBs that can catch lightning in a bottle for a season and then never quite find it again.

chiefzilla1501 · 08-22-2014, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Easy now, not sucking on a Manning is a berating offense in these QB guru parts. After all that non call followed by a miracle catch had nothing to do with him being a SB champion. Eli is proof that there are QBs that can catch lightning in a bottle for a season and then never quite find it again.

Seriously? He led an extremely efficient offense for 2 playoff runs. And made some huge time throws even if you throw the play you're talking about out.

GloryDayz · 08-22-2014, 07:47 PM

For those of us who aren't young... In Chiefs Colors (kinda)...

FloridaMan88 · 08-22-2014, 07:48 PM

The two areas of the team… WR and offensive line the Chiefs neglected to address this offseason are already blowing up in their face.

The fate of this season was sealed in March/April/May.

DrunkBassGuitar · 08-22-2014, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Actually..

All in for the suck, people. Let's do this.

I'd rather see a 2-14 season than a 7-9. 7-9 is boring as shit. 2-14 is lulz

08-22-2014, 12:35 PM
WakkaWakka Lets Go Royals! Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $10014360	Donald Stephenson suspended 4 games “@ArrowheadPride: Donald Stephenson suspended first 4 games of the season, according to NFL” Violating PED policy http://sbnation.com/e/5821498
Posts: 1,256

08-22-2014, 05:57 PM	#301
OldSchool MVP Join Date: Sep 2013 Casino cash: $10035212	Side Note: Eli Manning looks like crap, lol.
Posts: 12,727

08-22-2014, 06:08 PM	#303
mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	the front sevens we have to face in the first four weeks Titans - Run a 3-4 now, this might be the most underrated front 7 in the NFL nobody is talking about D-Line Ropati Pitoitua Sammie Lee Hill Jurrell Casey LBs Derrick Morgan Wesley Woodyard Zach Brown Kam Wimbley Derrick Morgan is going to beat whoever we put on the right side of the line all day. Jurrell Casey is going to manhandle Jeff Allen and those MLBers are going to blitz the shit out of the gaps. This is going to be a horrible matchup of finesse and power. Broncos D-Line Derek Wolfe Slyvester Williams Terrance Knighton Demarcus Ware LBs Von Miller Nate Irving Some Scrub I hate the Broncos, and I don't want to say a good thing about this team but I don't see what offensive lineman we have that will stop any of these guys. I guess if you're in the camp that Derek Wolfe and Slyvester Williams are overrated/done nothing, but we will have literally scrub players trying to block them. They at least have to play a scrub at ROLB because Trevathan is hurt, that's the silver lining I guess. I still think this is the easiest front 7 we have to play out of the first four. Dolphins - D-line Cam Wake Randy Starks Earl Mitchell Olivier Vernon LBers Wheeler Misi Ellerbe it didn't matter who is starting at tackle for us here because we are absolutely going to lose this matchup no matter what. Wake and Vernon will feast on Fisher + Scrub/Stephenson/Whoever they want put out there. We are are screwed in the short pass/flats/dump off game because the LBers are rangey coverage guys that just run to the flats. New England D-line Ninkovich Wilfork Tommy Kelly Chandler Jones LBers Jaimie Collins Mayo Hightower I guess this is the worst of the four front 7s but Wilfork will line up over Zach Fulton and require that entire side of the line to block him, so it's moot lol. I don't see anywhere really where our offensive line has an advantage the first four weeks. Poor Fisher has to block some really good pass rushers lol
Posts: 11,886

08-22-2014, 07:38 PM	#309
Red Dawg Going home eventually Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $3702858	Will we have a top ten pick? I say yes. What do you do with it? Draft a WR, tell Alex to walk and turn the beast Bray loose? Oh hell yeah! __________________ If you're not first you're last!
Posts: 31,073

08-22-2014, 07:42 PM	#311
Chief Roundup Admitted Planet Junky Join Date: Oct 2000 Casino cash: $691627	Easy now, not sucking on a Manning is a berating offense in these QB guru parts. After all that non call followed by a miracle catch had nothing to do with him being a SB champion. Eli is proof that there are QBs that can catch lightning in a bottle for a season and then never quite find it again. __________________ Fanaticism is nowhere. There is no tenderness or humanity in fanaticism.
Posts: 19,360

08-22-2014, 07:47 PM	#313
GloryDayz (Sir/Yes Sir/Aye Aye Sir) Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Diving Casino cash: $2595380	For those of us who aren't young... In Chiefs Colors (kinda)...
Posts: 118,211

08-22-2014, 07:48 PM	#314
FloridaMan88 Mahomes: We Are All Witnesses Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami, FL Casino cash: $1722906	The two areas of the team… WR and offensive line the Chiefs neglected to address this offseason are already blowing up in their face. The fate of this season was sealed in March/April/May.
Posts: 42,172