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Old 11-24-2014, 03:58 PM  
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Old 11-28-2014, 02:49 AM   #301
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Old 11-28-2014, 07:28 AM   #302
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Because there are "freak" athletes in every sport. Some people consider basketball players to be the best athletes in the world and if you've ever seen an NBA game courtside, you'd probably agree.

Some people consider NASCAR drivers to be the best athletes in the world due to conditioning necessary to drive a car 200 MPH for 500 miles with little to no breaks.

There a millions of athletic people in this world and Eric Berry is just one of them. No disrespect to him.
I'm not implying that you agree/disagree but those people are morons. 50 yr old drivers can compete and win in NASCAR "events" w/ no problem. It requires zero athletic skill...HOWEVER, you have to train/condition your body to take on the physical drain it puts on your body. That's not being athletic though. Granted a good majority of them (drivers) are in fair-good shape. Not too many fat assed drivers out there. But again, driving NASCAR does not equal or have anything to do w/ athleticism. I met Carl Edwards back in 2004 at a wedding believe it or not, right around the time he started becoming a bigger name in the sport. Even in a suit you could tell the guy was cut and in real good shape. But could he go through like a NFL scouting combine workout type of regiment and compete w/ these NFL guys? I highly doubt it.

But yeah....Eric Berry while a hell of an athlete, he's not a physical freak of nature that "wows" you w/ size or strength or speed. This category would include people like Bo Jackson, Herschel Walker, Vernon Davis, Mario Williams, Julius Peppers, LaRon Landry, Lebron James, Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson, Gronk, Patrick Willis
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Old 11-28-2014, 08:59 AM   #303
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idk why you guys are saying berry isnt a freak athlete... he has the 3rd highest vertical jump in the combine for ALL positions in the past 10 years. in addition to running a 4.4, and being ridiculously strong for his size. he benched 2-3 less reps than jadaveon clowney, and kalil mack, and 4 more than anthony barr. the top pass rushers in this years draft.
Benching 225 nineteen times makes you an athletic freak? I can find those guys at my gym all the time.
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Old 11-28-2014, 09:20 AM   #304
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Benching 225 nineteen times makes you an athletic freak? I can find those guys at my gym all the time.
When did Berry become Bo Jackson?
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Old 11-28-2014, 09:48 AM   #305
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I'm not implying that you agree/disagree but those people are morons. 50 yr old drivers can compete and win in NASCAR "events" w/ no problem. It requires zero athletic skill...HOWEVER, you have to train/condition your body to take on the physical drain it puts on your body. That's not being athletic though. Granted a good majority of them (drivers) are in fair-good shape. Not too many fat assed drivers out there. But again, driving NASCAR does not equal or have anything to do w/ athleticism. I met Carl Edwards back in 2004 at a wedding believe it or not, right around the time he started becoming a bigger name in the sport. Even in a suit you could tell the guy was cut and in real good shape. But could he go through like a NFL scouting combine workout type of regiment and compete w/ these NFL guys? I highly doubt it.

But yeah....Eric Berry while a hell of an athlete, he's not a physical freak of nature that "wows" you w/ size or strength or speed. This category would include people like Bo Jackson, Herschel Walker, Vernon Davis, Mario Williams, Julius Peppers, LaRon Landry, Lebron James, Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson, Gronk, Patrick Willis
Drivers do need a lot of hand-eye coordination when running close to the wall and other competitors at that speed. I'm not saying where they rank, but that brings them above requiring "zero" athletic ability.
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Old 11-28-2014, 10:09 AM   #306
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Benching 225 nineteen times makes you an athletic freak? I can find those guys at my gym all the time.
Nobody at your gym runs 4.4 40 or has Berry's vertical leap on top of the bench press.


19 reps isn't impressive in itself, it the combination of speed, strength, and explosiveness that makes him rare.
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Old 11-28-2014, 10:15 AM   #307
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Nobody at your gym runs 4.4 40 or has Berry's vertical leap on top of the bench press.


19 reps isn't impressive in itself, it the combination of speed, strength, and explosiveness that makes him rare.
This is not rare. It happens more and more every year.

Just because he plays for your favorite team in your favorite sport but does not make him one of the best athletes in the world.

Why is this so hard to understand?

Hell, he isn't even the best athlete on his own team.
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Old 11-28-2014, 10:35 AM   #308
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This argument by a bunch of guys with beer bellys is stupid. Even more stupid than saying he will never play again.
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Old 11-28-2014, 10:38 AM   #309
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This argument by a bunch of guys with beer bellys is stupid. Even more stupid than saying he will never play again.
If it is lymphoma then he most likely won't ever play again.

I can't speak for the others but no where near having a beer belly here. :-)
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Old 11-28-2014, 10:40 AM   #310
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This is not rare. It happens more and more every year.
Uhhh. Not at the safety position.

We just had three safeties get taken in the first round in 2014 and Berry's Combine numbers beat the pants off all three.
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Old 11-28-2014, 10:41 AM   #311
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The only safety prospect I can think of who's numbers were more impressive than Berry's in the past 10 years was Taylor Mays.

Although I think Earl Thomas was about on par with Berry.
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Old 11-28-2014, 10:47 AM   #312
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Uhhh. Not at the safety position.

We just had three safeties get taken in the first round in 2014 and Berry's Combine numbers beat the pants off all three.
His argument started that Berry is a top 1% athlete in the world.

If we want to limit it to a specific position in a specific sport I can agree.
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M'alright. I haven't been following the argument.

Although professional athletes are, by default, the top 1% of all athletes, are they not?

By that sense alone he's almost certainly a top 1% athlete.
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Old 11-28-2014, 10:51 AM   #314
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If it is lymphoma then he most likely won't ever play again.

I can't speak for the others but no where near having a beer belly here. :-)
Haha thats true you don't. Im slowly getting rid of mine!

we'll have a better idea about his career once the test results come back.
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Old 11-28-2014, 11:03 AM   #315
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Exactly.
Yeah... it's HIS fault.

Apparently it was not there when he started training camp.

Did you know that football teams have state of the art medical care and have players pass generally advanced physicals before they let them play?

The more you know...
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