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Old 05-01-2013, 10:21 AM  
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Chiefs trade (Arenas) for...wait for it...a FB?
Chiefs acquired FB Anthony Sherman from the Chiefs...er Cardinals.
New Cards head coach Bruce Arians has no room for plodding fullbacks in his aggressive, vertical offense. So Sherman heads to Andy Reid's West Coast scheme as Jamaal Charles' lead blocker. The 2011 fifth-rounder graded out 20th among 25 qualifying fullbacks in Pro Football Focus' rankings last season. May 1 - 12:11 PM

WTF?

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Old 05-01-2013, 01:22 PM   #301
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I'd keep Arenas for his returning skills.

FB?

**** me.
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:23 PM   #302
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**** yeah! That's the outside of the box thinking this franchise needed. We also drafted an OT 1.1 to protect for those 3 yard passes.
It's not outside the box, obviously.

But, if I'm right, then it tells us that Reid does recognize Smith's limitations, in spite of the admiration he expressed for him, and he's going to run an offense that utilizes his efficiency, and that he's not going to try to fit a square peg into a round hole.
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:24 PM   #303
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Starting FB> 5th CB
No.

Given the propensity and importance of dime packages, along with the passing nature of the league, this statement is blatantly wrong.

Additionally, Javier was your #2 inside/slot corner. So, if Dunta goes down or we go to any kind of dime personnel, he's playing. Considering that the only other player who can possibly play in the slot beside Dunta is a player who spent the entire year on IR, I'm just not sure how you come to the conclusion that your "starting FB" is more important than a decent/average slot corner, especially when you evaluate the rest of the roster and realize that you're incredibly thin at the position (unless you're convinced Menzie is just going to be a monster) .
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:26 PM   #304
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Complain that Jon Baldwin wasn't replaced. Complain that Tyson Jackson wasn't replaced. Complain that this team hasn't found a legitimate QBOTF yet - we won't even debate whether one was available.

Complain that Branden Albert wasn't re-signed so we could have traded down with Arizona.

Just don't ****ing complain that we gave away a midget, dogshit nickel corner who wasn't going to make the roster in exchange for another guy who at least MIGHT make the roster.

****, people.
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:27 PM   #305
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Complain that Jon Baldwin wasn't replaced. Complain that Tyson Jackson wasn't replaced. Complain that this team hasn't found a legitimate QBOTF yet - we won't even debate whether one was available.

Complain that Branden Albert wasn't re-signed so we could have traded down with Arizona.

Just don't ****ing complain that we gave away a midget, dogshit nickel corner who wasn't going to make the roster in exchange for another guy who at least MIGHT make the roster.

****, people.
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:31 PM   #306
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You see, right there is the kind of reactionary horseshit I have come to know and love from the troglodytes here. Just because I'm not lying prostrate, wailing in lamentation, doesn't mean that I am striking up the band and firing my pistolas in the air. If you don't hate it, you love it! Right? I must be a truefan for not hating everything! 100% anger or bust!

I just don't give a **** about our 5th CB who has never shown any reason to not burn him at the stake.

Meanwhile, Tony Gonzalez is probably coming back for another year. We should be celebrating that another one of *****'s ****ups is off this team. I literally could not care less who we got in return.
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:32 PM   #307
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lol wow

any person that justifies this trade is a complete homer moron
Why?

The only thing that leads to people putting any value in Javier Arenas is the fact that he was overdrafted.

If Arenas had been drafted in the 6th round (like he performed), then nobody would care.

People are giving a value to Arenas that's wildly out of proportion to his actual production and ability. He's a warm body that can and will be easily replaced.

This is just more proof of how ungodly shitty a job Scott Pioli did here. He used a 2nd round pick on a guy who's value in the league was a special teams player.

This isn't an indictment on Dorsey, it's yet another indictment on Pioli. Arenas is awful.
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:33 PM   #308
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why does it make all the criers cry to point out obvious things?

CB value > FB value

Arenas is a mediocre nickle back
this choad is not even a mediocre FB

the value simply doesn't align

i do this trade every time going FB to CB, I'd never do it in reverse

but sure as hell hootie and the tears show up to wonder why people discuss football on a football message board...
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:33 PM   #309
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This Dorsey guy... amazing.

Can we make him a scout and get another GM?
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:33 PM   #310
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It's not outside the box, obviously.

But, if I'm right, then it tells us that Reid does recognize Smith's limitations, in spite of the admiration he expressed for him, and he's going to run an offense that utilizes his efficiency, and that he's not going to try to fit a square peg into a round hole.
I was being sarcastic.

Reid probably does recognize it but it still begs the question: why trade two #2's for Smith?
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Why?

The only thing that leads to people putting any value in Javier Arenas is the fact that he was overdrafted.

If Arenas had been drafted in the 6th round (like he performed), then nobody would care.

People are giving a value to Arenas that's wildly out of proportion to his actual production and ability. He's a warm body that can and will be easily replaced.

This is just more proof of how ungodly shitty a job Scott ***** did here. He used a 2nd round pick on a guy who's value in the league was a special teams player.

This isn't an indictment on Dorsey, it's yet another indictment on *****. Arenas is awful.
Arenas was a solid #3 CB and one of the better punt returners in the league.

Just traded him for a ****ing FB. How many does that make now?

Dorsey is terrible at this trading thing.
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You see, right there is the kind of reactionary horseshit I have come to know and love from the troglodytes here. Just because I'm not lying prostrate, wailing in lamentation, doesn't mean that I am striking up the band and firing my pistolas in the air. If you don't hate it, you love it! Right? I must be a truefan for not hating everything! 100% anger or bust!

I just don't give a **** about our 5th CB who has never shown any reason to not burn him at the stake.

Meanwhile, Tony Gonzalez is probably coming back for another year. We should be celebrating that another one of *****'s ****ups is off this team. I literally could not care less who we got in return.
You must be related to Dorsey.
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That Tony Gonzalez trade is the gift that keeps on giving.
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other gms have erotic dreams about trading with Dorsey...

I bet this one started as a dare one night when Arizona's front office was getting shit faced...
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