****The Official NEW (new)^3 conference realignment & shit talk thread****

[Pitt Gorilla]

in memory of Saul Good. He will be missed.

[Sully]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Don't take this the wrong way but: I think you might be mentally reeruned.

I'm not concerned with your thoughts on my mental capacity. I am curious for you to answer my question, though. Are you not going to do so?

[KC native]

heh

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_...ot-sec-is-no-1
Power rankings: Big 12, not SEC, is No. 1

For the first time in years, the SEC has been knocked off its perch as the top conference in the nation in ESPN Stats and Information’s Conference Power Rankings.

The SEC was 0-4 in its SEC-ACC rivalry games, marking the first time since 2000 that Georgia, Florida and South Carolina each lost to its major in-state rival. The SEC is 5-6 (.455 win pct) in non-conference games against other Power 5 opponents, which ranks third among Power 5 conferences.

The race for No. 1, however, is basically a tie between the Big 12 and SEC. The Big 12’s rating is based largely on its strength at the top of the conference, which is measured by the Associated Press poll. The Big 12 has three teams – TCU, Baylor and Kansas State – in the top 10 of the AP poll, the most of any conference. Two of those teams will face off this weekend in Waco, Texas.

The Big 12 has a lower average Football Power Index ranking than the SEC and Pac-12, meaning that despite its strength at the top of the conference, it is not particularly deep. The Big 12 has four teams below 60th in the Football Power Index, which is as many as the Pac-12 and SEC have combined.

Nonetheless, Baylor, TCU and Kansas State are in the midst of strong seasons, and in a 10-team league, that has vaulted the Big 12 to the top of the rankings. In four of the first five College Football Playoff rankings, the Big 12 has been on the outside looking in, but the conference should have a strong argument for inclusion with Tuesday’s release.

The biggest riser in the Conference Power Rankings this week was the ACC. After sweeping the SEC-ACC rivalry games Saturday, the ACC rose 7.0 points to nearly pull even with the Big Ten. Georgia Tech, Clemson and Louisville each rose at least three spots in the AP poll and continued to climb in the Football Power Index.

It has been an up-and-down year for many conferences. The Big Ten was buried early in the year before bouncing back, particularly against the ACC, in Weeks 4 and 5. The ACC was having a down year before it swept the SEC-ACC rivalry series in Week 14. Conference strength will play a role in the College Football Playoff selection, but just as there is not a dominant team this year, there also may not be a dominant conference.

[Saul Good]

Heh is right. The Big 12 has the worst OOC winning percentage and has a grand total of zero wins versus ranked opponents. SEC has the best and the most.

Bagging on the SEC is big business.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Originally Posted by TribalElder

Everybody gets a trophy

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/.../swc/1994.html

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Tcu lost legit playoff hopes by losing to Baylor. A true champion doesn't lose in that dog shit conference.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/.../swc/1994.html

Turns out there wasn't a playoff committee back then that started extra weight would be given to conference champions.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by KC native

heh

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_...ot-sec-is-no-1
Power rankings: Big 12, not SEC, is No. 1

What a lot of us have been saying all year.

Wasn't hard to figure out after Oklahoma's curb-stomping of Alabama.

The Big 12 is simply a higher level of football and basketball.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Tcu lost legit playoff hopes by losing to Baylor. A true champion doesn't lose in that dog shit conference.

They aren't a dog shit conference at all in terms of quality of play. They're just Busch League in the way they go about their business.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

They aren't a dog shit conference at all in terms of quality of play. They're just Busch League in the way they go about their business.

I can't see them selling a second place or co champion to the committee without the committee chuckling a bit

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by Bambi

What a lot of us have been saying all year.

Wasn't hard to figure out after Oklahoma's curb-stomping of Alabama.

The Big 12 is simply a higher level of football and basketball.

There's really no such thing as a "conference"anymore outside the Big 12 where league schedules are the same. The SEC isn't one conf at all: it's essentially two (the Best & the Least).

Result: The SEC-Best is pretty clearly the best football "conference". The data is essentially indisputable. They do suck balls at hoops though.

[KC native]

#3 bitches.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by KC native

#3 bitches.

Good thing you have that extra game against a power team to solidify your position.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Good thing you have that extra game against a power team to solidify your position.

SECE lol

[KC native]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Good thing you have that extra game against a power team to solidify your position.

woooooo #3 wooooooo

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

There's really no such thing as a "conference"anymore outside the Big 12 where league schedules are the same. The SEC isn't one conf at all: it's essentially two (the Best & the Least).

Result: The SEC-Best is pretty clearly the best football "conference". The data is essentially indisputable. They do suck balls at hoops though.

I don't hold it against you for thinking the SEC West is the best "conference" top to bottom. They definitely have achieved plenty to make a claim to being the top group of college football teams in America.

Oklahoma soundly defeating the West's best program last year in the Sugar Bowl definitely put the brakes on that for me however. Oklahoma is perhaps the 3rd best team in the Big 12 and would cruise by most teams in the SEC. They "could" beat them all.

We don't have so much of a track record for Baylor on this and I openly blame Baylor for not scheduling as tough as other schools. This is why TCU is sitting here now poised to enter the 1st ever college football playoff. They have a history of winning in the BCS and scheduling tough non-con competition.

I understand Baylor feels that playing all 9 teams in their conference should balance this out but obviously the committee is saying otherwise.

It's hard to take teams from the SEC seriously anymore being that the scheduling in that conference is so bad. I mean you have a team in Missouri that is playing in the conference championship game while only beating one team with a winning record in two years... How is that even possible?

The SEC is hilariously close to being out of the playoff altogether which would be quite ironic being that it was the SEC who decided that a conference championship game was a good idea in the first place (1992).

The sports in the Big 12 have become so strong thanks to cutting bottom feeder programs like mizzou, colorado, etc and moving into these new times with a clear direction. As a KU fan I couldn't be happier. My only concern is getting the football program back to national prominence while the Jayhawks have to compete with 8 other seriously deadly football programs. Iowa State will never be good so they'll always have that but the easy wins against Colorado, Missouri, rotational schedule, etc are all gone.

We still have basketball which was solidified with defeating Michigan State on Sunday but it's going to have to be all hands deck moving forward in this conference.