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Old 11-02-2015, 05:00 PM  
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*** Official 2016 Royals Offseason Repository ***



Well, folks, it has happened. The Royals stand triumphant, atop the heap of MLB.

In this thread, we'll track the action as Dayton Moore continues The Process and attempts to defend the long-awaited title.

Before we get to the meet of it, let's take a minute to reflect ... and say "I'm Sorry" to Dayton Moore.

We gave you hell. Many of us called for your head. But you were right. You got it done. Congratulations. Mea culpa.

Now, let's talk about the offseason:

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The Royals will have a few priorities: Corner OF (x2) and 1 SP, IMO. The rest of the core is solid and will need little tweaking. Looking at the increase in ticket sales, merchandising, concessions, parking, etc., I think it's fair to assume the Royals GROSSED $100 million more this season, or close to it. That gives Glass and Dayton Moore much more flexibility on payroll for 2016 (hopefully).

First order of business will be gauging the Alex Gordon market. If he can be resigned for 4-5 years at around $75-80 million total, it would be hard for KC to pass on that. He's still an above-average corner OF bat, and the Royals will need to bring in at least one proven guy to play in a corner if Gordon walks... and the whole market looks a lot like Alex - guys in their early 30s looking for huge, final contracts.

Second order of business: Make a decision on Zobrist. It sounds like KC will pursue him aggressively. At 34, he's at risk of declining in a big way after a few years. If they could find someone to take on Omar Infante for eating 1/2 of his deal, that would be a great start to things.

If they decide not to spend on Zobrist, KC will need to cobble together some sort of plan for 2B/RF that involves some cheaper options like Orlando, Colon, Dyson, etc.

I could see them deciding his ability to provide great insurance at either 2B or in RF is worth the risk.

Third order of business: Add depth to the rotation with a FA SP. Duffy, Ventura, Volquez and Medlen are locks for 4 spots, it seems. Kyle Zimmer may finally be ready to make a MLB impact, but his innings will be limited. That means KC needs insurance. Will it kill two birds with one stone (and insure against Duffy/Ventura regression) by signing a more top-tier guy? Or does Moore look to Chris Young/someone like him for this depth?

Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years.

Ian Kennedy, Mat Latos, Marco Estrada, and Justin Masterson are some other names that may pique interest (a little further down the list).

Other than that, I don't think KC makes any major moves. Greg Holland will be interesting to observe, as they have one more year of control of him, and he will obviously miss all of that season. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pre-arbitration deal that pays him something like $15 million over the next two seasons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned loose, period.

The bullpen will rest upon Wade Davis/Herrera/Hochevar, filling in pieces around them. Bringing Madson back wouldn't be a surprise, but he could get a big deal from another team that is willing to pay him as their top setup guy or even their closer.

I think the biggest prospects to watch in Spring Training will be:

1) Kyle Zimmer. The hype has built, died down, built again, etc. If he's healthy, he's filthy and a potential ToR arm. But what does he look like in ST, and how many innings can you reasonably expect from him if he does earn a rotation spot? It seems like 120-130 innings would be his limit unless they really stretch (or unless he has a lot of hidden innings from simulated games/extended spring training, which might push him to 150-160).

Having another cheap, home-grown pitcher would be a significant boon for this team as it tries to extend the competitive window (and potentially give KC a strong 1-2 to build its rotation around in Zimmer and Ventura)

2) Bubba Starling. I'm trying to remain skeptical, but I like what I hear about Bubba from this season, and the performance has picked up. If KC does not sign someone to fill the RF slot, I think that's a strong indication KC's front office believes Starling will be ready to contribute in 2016.

Dayton Moore has long said that when Starling's light flips on, it will happen quickly and burn brightly. Time will tell.

After his STRONG Arizona Fall League Performance, he shot up my prospect chart.

3) Miguel Almonte. His late-season stint out of the KC bullpen went poorly, but Almonte has a plus-plus changeup, a good fastball, and a decent curve ball. He may be the dark horse in the rotation competition, and unlike Zimmer, he's set up to pitch a full 180 inning season.

4) RA Mondesi. The only player to debut in the MLB World Series has incredible tools. He still needs to refine his game, but again... he may be KC's best cheap, plus alternative at a key position (2B). His defense would be a boon from Day 1, but he needs seasoning with the bat before he's asked to hold down 2B full time.

And, as always, here are the Prospects:

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Old 11-10-2015, 08:05 PM   #286
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Old 11-10-2015, 08:13 PM   #287
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His development, to me, is the big question to either sign Gordon or Zobrist. If he is going to be ready in 2017, no need to sign Zobrist IMO. While its nice that Zobrist can play everywhere, his best position is 2nd base. We really can't afford to block Mondesi either IMO.

2017 is a pretty aggressive time table for him, but he's on track to meet it. Depends on a how well he hits at AA this year. If he performs at a high level, Mondesi could get to Omaha this year and be on track for a 2017 debut.

The beauty of Zobrist is his versatility. If Mondesi is ready in 2017, you can find a spot for Zobrist in LF (if you don't bring back Gordon), RF, or even as a DH/rotating UTIL guy (if Kendrys Morales moves on after this season).
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Old 11-10-2015, 08:26 PM   #288
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What's Mondesi's time table to get to majors? September callup, 2017 ready to go. Or is it longer than that.
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Old 11-10-2015, 08:39 PM   #289
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Does anyone know if Mondesi speaks English?
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Old 11-10-2015, 08:49 PM   #290
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It's exciting Cain is an MVP candidate. I don't even know the last time the Royals had someone in the top 3.

Only catch is that's surely coming up in contract negotiations now. He's not going to be cheap.
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Old 11-10-2015, 08:53 PM   #291
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Old 11-10-2015, 08:58 PM   #292
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Just googled it. He is fluent in English since he was born in the states.
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Old 11-10-2015, 09:06 PM   #293
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Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years.

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I don't think anybody was expecting Cueto, but Zobrist over Gordon is a bit of a shock to me.
I've always thought Zobrist is more likely to return than Gordon. Similar players, but Zobrist is older and will presumably have less value for other teams.
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Star LF for Cleve Michael Brantley had shoulder surgery. Out 5-6 months which could put him back on June 1 or later if he does a few weeks of AAA rehab. This is huge for us since he's the best player on (what I think is) our clear rival for the Central.
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Not sure if this was already mentioned, but Cespedes got the gold glove over Gordo. Heh.
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Old 11-10-2015, 10:28 PM   #298
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This team is going to be rebuilding after 2017. We may never see a core group of guys like this again in our lifetimes. Why not sellout to keep Gordon and Zobrist, enter 2016 and likely 2017 as WS favorites, and who cares if that screws us for a few years after 2017?

Opportunities for a 4-year WS run basically never come along for a team like the Royals. We have to go for this.

That's kinda my thoughts too. We are looking at a 2 year window...why not sellout & go for it. Keep Gordon & Zobrist. Sign Heyward. Sign a pitcher like Leake or Zimmerman. Resign CY.

Go for it!

Heyward
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That's a powerful, fast, athletic lineup that has a plus defender at each position.

Zimmerman
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Medlen

Bullpen is still strong.

Go for it!
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Old 11-10-2015, 11:13 PM   #299
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That's kinda my thoughts too. We are looking at a 2 year window...why not sellout & go for it. Keep Gordon & Zobrist. Sign Heyward. Sign a pitcher like Leake or Zimmerman. Resign CY.

Go for it!

Heyward
Zobrist
Cain
Hosmer
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Gordon
Perez
Moose
Esky

That's a powerful, fast, athletic lineup that has a plus defender at each position.

Zimmerman
Volquez
Ventura
Leake
Medlen

Bullpen is still strong.

Go for it!
CY is very high on my wish list.
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That's kinda my thoughts too. We are looking at a 2 year window...why not sellout & go for it. Keep Gordon & Zobrist. Sign Heyward. Sign a pitcher like Leake or Zimmerman. Resign CY.

Go for it!

Heyward
Zobrist
Cain
Hosmer
Morales
Gordon
Perez
Moose
Esky

That's a powerful, fast, athletic lineup that has a plus defender at each position.

Zimmerman
Volquez
Ventura
Leake
Medlen

Bullpen is still strong.

Go for it!

Oh god that would be fantastic.
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