Chiefs Chiefs, Charles Strike Deal! - Page 20

Dante84 · 03:48 PM

I had no intention on holding out...I just ran out of gas on the way to camp and my cell phone battery died. It was a long walk I tell ya.
— Jamaal Charles (@jcharles25) July 23, 2014

Jamaal Charles and the #Chiefs have struck a deal, source says. He’s heading to camp now.
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) July 23, 2014

Chiefs are giving RB Jamaal Charles a two-year extension that makes him 2nd-highest paid back in league and ties him to KC for four seasons.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) July 23, 2014

Jamaal Charles will get $18 million in new money as part of his 2-year extension with the Chiefs, source tells @FOXSports1
— Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) July 23, 2014

**hometeam** · 07-23-2014, 08:16 PM

Its kind of sad when your fanbase is so beaten, so mistreated, so used to being dogshit that you think a re-tread at best AVERAGE QB near the end of his pathetically sub-par career, is more important to your team then one of the greatest RB's, scratch that, PLAYERS, of his time, and maybe, all time.

yea.

OldSchool · 07-23-2014, 08:20 PM

Jesus Christ. People who keep harping on about how much Alex Smith depends on Jamaal Charles to help move the offense, and knock him for it, obviously have zero understanding of what Andy Reid emphasizes with his offense.

Look at what he did in Philly. Almost every year that Reid was there, the primary RB was either 1 or 2 in receptions on the team. Example?

Brian Westbrook in 2004 had 73 receptions, 2nd only to Terrell Owens who had 77 that year.

2005, without the star WR Owens. Westbrook tied for 1st with their TE, LJ Smith, with 61 receptions.

2006, Westbrook led the team with 77 receptions, 27 more than the next closest receiver.

2007, Westbrook had 90 receptions, next closest receiver was Kevin Curtis with 77.

Etc etc. Passing the ball to the RB is a main feature of the Andy Reid offense, it really has little to do with what Alex Smith may or may not be inclined to do. TEs are also heavily used in the passing game. This will especially remain true as long as our RBs and TE depth continues to be even slightly better than our WR core. The only time that Reid's offense slightly deviated from this trend was when he had very good to HOF level talent to work with at WR. (Terrell Owens in 2004; Maclin and Jackson in more recent years. Even then, the RB was still heavily featured in the passing game.)
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Titty Meat · 07-23-2014, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Scott Pioli, a guy who does this for a living, thought Matt Cassel was worth 60 million dollars.

Doing something for a living doens't necessarily mean one thing or another.

Nice to see you back.

Red Dawg · 07-23-2014, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by hometeam

Its kind of sad when your fanbase is so beaten, so mistreated, so used to being dogshit that you think a re-tread at best AVERAGE QB near the end of his pathetically sub-par career, is more important to your team then one of the greatest RB's, scratch that, PLAYERS, of his time, and maybe, all time.

yea.

That's because RB's don't win Championships. QB's do and defense. Anyone that thinks dumping Smith with the age of our good players is plain stupid. Starting one of our young QB's would be waste of their prime years.

milkman · 07-23-2014, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by hometeam

Its kind of sad when your fanbase is so beaten, so mistreated, so used to being dogshit that you think a re-tread at best AVERAGE QB near the end of his pathetically sub-par career, is more important to your team then one of the greatest RB's, scratch that, PLAYERS, of his time, and maybe, all time.

yea.

Not sure this is the product of a beaten down fanbase.

This is the result of the shift to the QB driven league that this has become.

**srvy** · 07-23-2014, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

I'm old enough to have watched him play many times (season tickets), and I don't remember it this way at all. He was quite popular at the time, and not due to just one game. He may not have been great, but he was well liked at the time.

I agree mostly with that except his rookie year most kc fans would have run him out of town on a rail. All the fumbles and muffed punts. He worked hard and got better. His season leading up to the Xmas day game was outstanding and his day of days was epic. The following year age took a toll on o-line and he fell back to earth.

Marcellus · 07-23-2014, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by hometeam

no, but sort of like the 5 games where he threw for less than 175 yards.

You do realize superstars like Kap and Wilson had 5 of those games last year too right?

We can play this game all day.

**hometeam** · 07-23-2014, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Not sure this is the product of a beaten down fanbase.

This is the result of the shift to the QB driven league that this has become.

Yea except we don't have one of those QB's that's driving the league, which is where I feel the disconnect.

Marcellus · 07-23-2014, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

Not sure this is the product of a beaten down fanbase.

This is the result of the shift to the QB driven league that this has become.

Like Wilson and Kap averaging 217 yards a game.

penbrook · 07-23-2014, 08:30 PM

Per Jamaal Charles

I want to thank the Hunt family, the Chiefs Organization, my teammates and all the Chiefs fans for their unwavering support. #GoChiefs

O.city · 07-23-2014, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog

Nice to see you back.

Did I leave?

Marcellus · 07-23-2014, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook

Per Jamaal Charles

I want to thank the Hunt family, the Chiefs Organization, my teammates and all the Chiefs fans for their unwavering support. #GoChiefs

**hometeam** · 07-23-2014, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook

Per Jamaal Charles

I want to thank the Hunt family, the Chiefs Organization, my teammates and all the Chiefs fans for their unwavering support. #GoChiefs

Does that count the people who told him to kick rocks?

I guess it does, since this is JC we are talking about, and that's the kind of guy he is~

milkman · 07-23-2014, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Like Wilson and Kap averaging 217 yards a game.

Were I actually concerned about numbers, I'd point that those guys are going into their year as starters on run oriented teams.

But I've said it enough times that you should know this.

Numbers mean jack.

Marcellus · 07-23-2014, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Were I actually concerned about numbers, I'd point that those guys are going into their year as starters on run oriented teams.

But I've said it enough times that you should know this.

Numbers mean jack.

What about wins? And isn't KC a run oriented team or similar considering JC is the main weapon?

07-23-2014, 02:39 PM
Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $1471996 VARSITY	Chiefs, Charles Strike Deal! I had no intention on holding out...I just ran out of gas on the way to camp and my cell phone battery died. It was a long walk I tell ya. — Jamaal Charles (@jcharles25) July 23, 2014 Jamaal Charles and the #Chiefs have struck a deal, source says. He’s heading to camp now. — Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) July 23, 2014 Chiefs are giving RB Jamaal Charles a two-year extension that makes him 2nd-highest paid back in league and ties him to KC for four seasons. — Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) July 23, 2014 Jamaal Charles will get $18 million in new money as part of his 2-year extension with the Chiefs, source tells @FOXSports1 — Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) July 23, 2014 Last edited by Dante84; 07-23-2014 at 03:48 PM..
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07-23-2014, 08:20 PM	#287
OldSchool MVP Join Date: Sep 2013 Casino cash: $10035212	Jesus Christ. People who keep harping on about how much Alex Smith depends on Jamaal Charles to help move the offense, and knock him for it, obviously have zero understanding of what Andy Reid emphasizes with his offense. Look at what he did in Philly. Almost every year that Reid was there, the primary RB was either 1 or 2 in receptions on the team. Example? Brian Westbrook in 2004 had 73 receptions, 2nd only to Terrell Owens who had 77 that year. 2005, without the star WR Owens. Westbrook tied for 1st with their TE, LJ Smith, with 61 receptions. 2006, Westbrook led the team with 77 receptions, 27 more than the next closest receiver. 2007, Westbrook had 90 receptions, next closest receiver was Kevin Curtis with 77. Etc etc. Passing the ball to the RB is a main feature of the Andy Reid offense, it really has little to do with what Alex Smith may or may not be inclined to do. TEs are also heavily used in the passing game. This will especially remain true as long as our RBs and TE depth continues to be even slightly better than our WR core. The only time that Reid's offense slightly deviated from this trend was when he had very good to HOF level talent to work with at WR. (Terrell Owens in 2004; Maclin and Jackson in more recent years. Even then, the RB was still heavily featured in the passing game.) .
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