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Old 12-02-2012, 09:18 PM  
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Go to hell whitlock.
Yes I am a noob here, but after hearing that whitlock just blamed Belcher and his girlfriends death on lack of more restrictive gun laws.
You are a true classless piece of shit, using this incident to push your anti-bill of rights agenda, **** you.
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Old 12-03-2012, 01:09 AM   #286
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Old 12-03-2012, 01:15 AM   #287
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Old 12-03-2012, 01:16 AM   #288
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I'm not a gun owner. I've never held or even shot a gun. But there are more than 43 MILLION gun owners in this country, 99.9999% of which are responsible and don't intentionally murder human beings.

The actions of an extremely small number of gun owners that occur each year should not bring forth restricted gun laws, nor should they be outlawed, blah, blah, blah.
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Old 12-03-2012, 01:25 AM   #289
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It is somewhat ironic to me that people would rush to regulate the only tool that Kasandra Perkins could have used to save her life from Jovan Belcher.

Belcher was 6'2" tall and weighed 228 pounds. He was in peak physical condition and at least on some level, his job was violent and about imposing will on an equally large and determined man. I'm just estimating from the pictures, but Ms. Perkins appears to be about 5'2" and a soft 150 pounds.

Ms. Perkins had no hope of outrunning Belcher. She had no hope of out fighting him. She was probably a full foot shorter and 80 pounds smaller. She was a woman and he was a man.

Belcher was obviously committed to killing her. He shot her 9 times. 9 times rules out the possibility of an accident. He killed her with his own mother in the room. If his own mother could not stop him, then I do not believe that anything short of decisive and violent action could have. Perkins was not capable of delivering that kind of violence with her bare hands. Belcher was.

So yes, guns absolutely make it easier to kill people. Sometimes that is a good thing. There is no doubt in my mind that collectively, across a country like ours, that is a good thing.
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Old 12-03-2012, 01:27 AM   #290
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And now everyone hates Whitlock again......
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Old 12-03-2012, 01:34 AM   #291
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And now everyone hates Whitlock again......
I don't hate him. I don't necessarily agree with his view point on this particular topic but discussion is always good.
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Old 12-03-2012, 01:38 AM   #292
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I don't hate him. I don't necessarily agree with his view point on this particular topic but discussion is always good.
To me, a lot of it seems to be just hating on Whitlock because of his view on this, not discussion. Not saying it's you.
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Old 12-03-2012, 01:39 AM   #293
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It is somewhat ironic to me that people would rush to regulate the only tool that Kasandra Perkins could have used to save her life from Jovan Belcher.

Belcher was 6'2" tall and weighed 228 pounds. He was in peak physical condition and at least on some level, his job was violent and about imposing will on an equally large and determined man. I'm just estimating from the pictures, but Ms. Perkins appears to be about 5'2" and a soft 150 pounds.

Ms. Perkins had no hope of outrunning Belcher. She had no hope of out fighting him. She was probably a full foot shorter and 80 pounds smaller. She was a woman and he was a man.

Belcher was obviously committed to killing her. He shot her 9 times. 9 times rules out the possibility of an accident. He killed her with his own mother in the room. If his own mother could not stop him, then I do not believe that anything short of decisive and violent action could have. Perkins was not capable of delivering that kind of violence with her bare hands. Belcher was.

So yes, guns absolutely make it easier to kill people. Sometimes that is a good thing. There is no doubt in my mind that collectively, across a country like ours, that is a good thing.

This, Sir, is a fantastic point.
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Old 12-03-2012, 01:56 AM   #294
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It is somewhat ironic to me that people would rush to regulate the only tool that Kasandra Perkins could have used to save her life from Jovan Belcher.

Belcher was 6'2" tall and weighed 228 pounds. He was in peak physical condition and at least on some level, his job was violent and about imposing will on an equally large and determined man. I'm just estimating from the pictures, but Ms. Perkins appears to be about 5'2" and a soft 150 pounds.

Ms. Perkins had no hope of outrunning Belcher. She had no hope of out fighting him. She was probably a full foot shorter and 80 pounds smaller. She was a woman and he was a man.

Belcher was obviously committed to killing her. He shot her 9 times. 9 times rules out the possibility of an accident. He killed her with his own mother in the room. If his own mother could not stop him, then I do not believe that anything short of decisive and violent action could have. Perkins was not capable of delivering that kind of violence with her bare hands. Belcher was.

So yes, guns absolutely make it easier to kill people. Sometimes that is a good thing. There is no doubt in my mind that collectively, across a country like ours, that is a good thing.
Wow, that was written great, an excellent way to make that point.
Thank you.
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Old 12-03-2012, 07:11 AM   #295
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To me, a lot of it seems to be just hating on Whitlock because of his view on this, not discussion. Not saying it's you.
It's a polarizing subject, as are most things in this country.
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Well said, the same "progressives" that find it acceptable to abort a pregnancy at 38wks because they wanted a girl with blue eyes, but have a problem with capital punishment for a serial rapist that murdered 25 children.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:31 AM   #299
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Here's an idea ... how about changing a culture that devalues the father role, dehumanizes women, and believes that violence solves problems?

Nah ... that can't help.

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