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Old 08-10-2012, 09:14 PM  
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Thoughts on Pre-Season Game #1
Well, how would you break it down?
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:14 AM   #286
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What jsp said is exactly right. You can make that read if you have anything to experience playing Madden. Also, the blitz worked heavily in his favorite making his decision easier along with his throw to the free receiver...
Well I guess it shouldn't have counted then....lol /jk
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:15 AM   #287
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I was a huge Haley supporter, I liked his no bullshit, hard nosed approach, and what it did for some of our players, but I am starting to see more of his faults...
I supported Haley too at first for all the same reasons. Then when I saw how he was going about camp last year I was off the bandwagon. Sure it was a shortened camp but every team had that same problem. A good coach finds a way to adapt to that. A bad coach does what Haley did.
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:24 AM   #288
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I think Haley just showed that, in the NFL screaming runs its course. I think guys tuned him out. He just wasn't prepared for what was put on him. I tend to put more of that on the FO for hiring him. He tried to do too much.
huh?

Haley is a paid professional who was considered the leagues 'hottest HC prospect'. Pioli gave him 2 veteran coordinators in Gailey and Crennel.

what more did you want Pioli to do, hold his ****ing hand everyday?

That crying bitch Haley couldn't handle 'sharing' authority with anyone about the offense so he fired Gailey RIGHT before the season started. You never change a coordinator that close to the season ... NEVER. Pioli was trying to give Haley what he wanted so he let him take over. It was a disaster.

So then the next season Pioli went out and spent 5 million dollars to get a premiere OC to team with Crennel. The 2 highest paid and decorated coordinator group in the league in weis and crennel. The team got better.

Getting better wasn't good enough for Haley, he would rather lose controlling the offense himself than let someone else run things and win. Weis got sick of his shit and left.

Haley didn't want another OC so he just promoted some old offensive line coach to be his 'foot shuffling porter' and ran the offense himself. It was a disaster.

In fact, the level of the offense was a direct reflection of Haley. The more control Haley had, the worse the offense got. So he got fired.

The first game after Haley is gone and we looked more prepared than we have in years.

Time to let this Haley support go ... he just wasn't ready.
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:27 AM   #289
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Playing Palko over Orton? Stupid
Playing Becth, DMC, Urban, McClain on 3rd down passing situations? Stupid
Playing your starters into the 4th qtr in the 4th preseason game? Stupid
Firing your OC a couple weeks before the regular season and starting from scratch? Stupid
Stripping playcalling from Charlie Weis at halftime in a playoff game when the score is 10-7? Stupid
Hiring an OC that's a puppet "yes man", but then has trouble staying awake in games? Stupid.


I thought Haley's temper was comical at times. His blowups on the sideline made for some good comedy. But it also showed his immaturity and stubbornness as a head coach. He was just completely in way over his head as a Head Coach. More consistency with the coaching staff will pay off with better game preparation this season if nothing else. If Romeo's good at one thing it's preparation from what colleagues around the game have said. Daboll may not be a good X's and O's guy (maybe he will be I don't know) but you can allow your OC to get into a rhythm play calling wise, and with the talent we have, it can allow good things to happen.
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:30 AM   #290
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I was OK with the Haley hiring at first. He did bring some hard nosed reality back to the team. But I have to agree with Laz. The guy was a control freak, not to mention some of the other things he was.
We were ready to play last night. The 1st team offense looked crisp.
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:35 AM   #291
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huh?

Haley is a paid professional who was considered the leagues 'hottest HC prospect'. Pioli gave him 2 veteran coordinators in Gailey and Crennel.

what more did you want Pioli to do, hold his ****ing hand everyday?

That crying bitch Haley couldn't handle 'sharing' authority with anyone about the offense so he fired Gailey RIGHT before the season started. You never change a coordinator that close to the season ... NEVER. Pioli was trying to give Haley what he wanted so he let him take over. It was a disaster.

So then the next season Pioli went out and spent 5 million dollars to get a premiere OC to team with Crennel. The 2 highest paid and decorated coordinator group in the league in weis and crennel. The team got better.

Getting better wasn't good enough for Haley, he would rather lose controlling the offense himself than let someone else run things and win. Weis got sick of his shit and left.

Haley didn't want another OC so he just promoted some old offensive line coach to be his 'foot shuffling porter' and ran the offense himself. It was a disaster.

In fact, the level of the offense was a direct reflection of Haley. The more control Haley had, the worse the offense got. So he got fired.

The first game after Haley is gone and we looked more prepared than we have in years.

Time to let this Haley support go ... he just wasn't ready.
First year we had Pendergrast.


I agree he wasn't ready, but who hired him? He showed in Arizona and Dallas to be a petulant child, fighting with wr's on the sideline.
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:36 AM   #292
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Was anyone else (and this may have already been stated) really excited to see a well-timed and well-executed screen play last night? Be it preseason or regular season, Haley couldn't devise a successful screen play to save his life.
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I could watch this gif all day. Perfectly timed blitz.


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This is what we need Bailey and Poe to do in sub stuff. Bull rush and collapse the pocket from the inside.


Even here, they didn't get a great push, just a push. Some kind of push.
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:41 AM   #294
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Cassel hit exactly one pass I haven't seen him hit before.

Granted, it was a very nice throw.

This offense is not going to work if Dexter, or any slot receiver, is getting all the catches.

We heard about Baldwin The God ****er for weeks now and there was not shit to see tonight.


Always something to bitch about...
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:45 AM   #295
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First year we had Pendergrast.


I agree he wasn't ready, but who hired him? He showed in Arizona and Dallas to be a petulant child, fighting with wr's on the sideline.
damnit Pioli!!!

face it, you're going to bitch at Pioli no matter what. When it goes wrong, it's Pioli's fault. When it goes right then it's someone else's success.




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Old 08-11-2012, 09:46 AM   #296
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Always something to bitch about...
Dude is going to look monumentally stupid during and after this season.
He's going to be glad he's gone for a year so people can forget about how stupid this team made him look.
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damnit Pioli!!!

face it, you're going to bitch at Pioli no matter what. When it goes wrong, it's Pioli's fault. When it goes right then it's someone else's success.




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You got me wrong man, I'm a pretty firm Pioli supporter. Just saying that I think the Haley hiring wasn't a good one. It's not all on Pioli, as Haley did infact turn out to be a crazy dude.


I think he has learned from the experience. I'm not gonna bash Pioli for the hiring, he was an up and coming OC. But there were some signs before he hired him that would have lead you to believe things were gonna go the way they did.
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Dude is going to look monumentally stupid during and after this season.
He's going to be glad he's gone for a year so people can forget about how stupid this team made him look.
don't write off Manning

I think the donks are going to be much better than most people think.


I just hope their Oline falls apart and Manning gets body slammed every game.
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damnit Pioli!!!

face it, you're going to bitch at Pioli no matter what. When it goes wrong, it's Pioli's fault. When it goes right then it's someone else's success.




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I just can't figure out the Pioli bashing. Dude has done an AWESOME job of getting the pieces this team, and Cassel need.
Maybe a PO win is what people need. I think they're gonna get it this season.
What has it been? 17 years? Damn, no wonder.
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This is what we need Bailey and Poe to do in sub stuff. Bull rush and collapse the pocket from the inside.


Even here, they didn't get a great push, just a push. Some kind of push.
This play alone has to satisfy Poe as the fruits of his labor resulted in a sack.
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