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Old 03-05-2013, 02:35 AM   #1
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Landry Jones isn't really that much worse than Bradford and he went first..so you get a shittier Bradford I guess.

Also Jones is getting railed more because he went back for another year and started for so long. Last year he was a lock 2nd rounder.
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:39 AM   #2
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Well he got to hire a new coach so he seems to be in place for awhile...
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Old 03-05-2013, 03:20 AM   #3
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So you actually believe that the Chiefs will draft Geno Smith #1 overall, and spend their first and second round picks on quarterbacks?



You people are ****ing delusional
Are you aware of how much the Redskins gave up to draft RG3 and Kirk Cousins?

Two first round picks, a second round pick, and a fourth round pick. Apparently Mike Shanarat thinks that stockpiling quarterbacks is more important than stockpiling draft picks to be used on lower impact positions.

Giving up a first round pick and two second round picks may be more than you think the Chiefs should give up, but it's certainly not unprecedented. A fan who hopes that happens may be disappointed on draft day, but it's a pretty big stretch to label him delusional.
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:04 AM   #4
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Are you aware of how much the Redskins gave up to draft RG3 and Kirk Cousins?

Two first round picks, a second round pick, and a fourth round pick. Apparently Mike Shanarat thinks that stockpiling quarterbacks is more important than stockpiling draft picks to be used on lower impact positions.

Giving up a first round pick and two second round picks may be more than you think the Chiefs should give up, but it's certainly not unprecedented. A fan who hopes that happens may be disappointed on draft day, but it's a pretty big stretch to label him delusional.
They gave up all of that for Griffin, to be the future of the franchise
Cousins was just a value 4th round pick for competition
The redskins did not give up premium picks for a stopgap

Why would a team with the worst record in the league give up multiple 2nd round picks(or a 2nd and 3rd) for a 1 year stopgap player?

How is 1 year of Alex Smith worth the 34th overal pick in the draft + a 2nd or 3rd rounder? Especially for a team that is more than a qb away from being a contender

I just highly highly doubt this is the strategy used by the Chiefs FO
We are not talking about a hall of famer at the end of his career trying to make one more run ala Favre and Manning
Just seems like way too much compensation given up for a player to then turn around and draft his replacement
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Old 03-06-2013, 06:51 AM   #5
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They gave up all of that for Griffin, to be the future of the franchise
Cousins was just a value 4th round pick for competition
The redskins did not give up premium picks for a stopgap

Why would a team with the worst record in the league give up multiple 2nd round picks(or a 2nd and 3rd) for a 1 year stopgap player?

How is 1 year of Alex Smith worth the 34th overal pick in the draft + a 2nd or 3rd rounder? Especially for a team that is more than a qb away from being a contender

I just highly highly doubt this is the strategy used by the Chiefs FO
We are not talking about a hall of famer at the end of his career trying to make one more run ala Favre and Manning
Just seems like way too much compensation given up for a player to then turn around and draft his replacement
Nobody knows exactly what the compensation is.
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Old 03-06-2013, 08:35 AM   #6
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Nobody knows exactly what the compensation is.
95% of the reports are saying the 34th pick + a 2nd or 3rd next year

So we have a ballpark idea of the compensation
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Old 03-06-2013, 11:43 AM   #7
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They gave up all of that for Griffin, to be the future of the franchise
Cousins was just a value 4th round pick for competition
The redskins did not give up premium picks for a stopgap

Why would a team with the worst record in the league give up multiple 2nd round picks(or a 2nd and 3rd) for a 1 year stopgap player?

How is 1 year of Alex Smith worth the 34th overal pick in the draft + a 2nd or 3rd rounder? Especially for a team that is more than a qb away from being a contender

I just highly highly doubt this is the strategy used by the Chiefs FO
We are not talking about a hall of famer at the end of his career trying to make one more run ala Favre and Manning
Just seems like way too much compensation given up for a player to then turn around and draft his replacement
The point is to pool together all the resources we have to find that great QB, knowing that if Alex Smith does his job properly this year, the Chiefs won't be in any kind of position to draft one of the top QBs in next year's draft.

Alex has got to be replaced at some point. Either that, or he needs to crawl up a tree, shit out and envelop himself in a chrysalis, and come out a few weeks later transformed into a beautiful magical franchise QB butterfly.
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:08 PM   #8
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Something to remember is that the Packers did draft Aaron Rodgers when they had Brett Fafavre as starting QB. That is something Dorsey has mentioned during his opening press conference with us. This is very doable and makes Alex Smiff as a stop gap QB. I can live with it then.
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Old 03-06-2013, 01:09 PM   #9
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The point is to pool together all the resources we have to find that great QB, knowing that if Alex Smith does his job properly this year, the Chiefs won't be in any kind of position to draft one of the top QBs in next year's draft.

Alex has got to be replaced at some point. Either that, or he needs to crawl up a tree, shit out and envelop himself in a chrysalis, and come out a few weeks later transformed into a beautiful magical franchise QB butterfly.
Then just draft the qb and keep the premium picks to build around him

Im sure Geno Smith or whoever would rather have someone like a Terrance Williams out of Baylor to throw to for the next decade than a one year internship under Alex Smith

Is Andy Reid unable to cater an offense to a rookie?
If he really is the qb guru then surely he can adjust the playcalling and game planning to slowly bring the guy along without having him get too overwhelmed

As you see in today's NFL rookie qbs can have success, they don't have to be redshirted anymore

These draft picks the Chiefs are giving up are potential 10+ year starters
This is just way too much compensation for a nonelite player for me to think he is only viewed as a stop gap
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Old 03-05-2013, 10:08 AM   #10
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:00 AM   #11
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So much delusion in this thread.
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Andy Reid has long been capable of thinking outside the box, and his track record backs that up. But acquiring Alex Smith for two 2nds for the sole purpose of giving the #1 overall guy time to develop would be among the most ambitious ideas he's ever had.
It would definitely show the most desire to improve the QB position since 93...
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