News No Charges in Wal-Mart BB Gun Shooting - Page 20

Skyy God · 09-24-2014, 01:38 PM

Watch the video. Dude's just shopping for pet food, swinging a BB gun, and minding his own business. Then, BAM.

Apparently the Dayton PD trains their officers to murder people.

http://www.whio.com/videos/news/walm...ptures/vCtB6Z/

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A special grand jury called to review evidence in the fatal shooting of John Crawford III, killed by police in an Ohio Walmart while carrying a BB gun from store's shelves, decided today that no officers involved in the shooting will be indicted.

Surveillance video from Crawford's shooting—previously unavailable to the public—shows Crawford walking around the store while talking on the phone, with the BB gun at his side or on his shoulder. The disturbing video then shows an officer rushing toward Crawford with his gun drawn before shooting him.

Though the special grand jury reportedly considered charging the officers with murder, reckless homicide, or negligent homicide, WHIO reports the jury ultimately decided not to indict the officers involved in the shooting, finding their actions were justified.

Vince Pope, attorney for the officers involved in the shooting, released a statement following the decision:

"I believe the grand jury's decision, it's absolutely the right decision, that the officers acted well within their training."

Derrick Foward, president of the Dayton Unit NAACP, also released a statement:

"The Special Grand Jury in Greene County made the wrong decision. It's a sad day in the history of Dayton."

Foward added the NAACP will call for a complete investigation by the U.S. Department of Justice.

http://gawker.com/no-indictments-aga...oot-1638642197

Skyy God · 09-25-2014, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Quick question. Do you think officer Wilson should already be behind bars for the cold-blooded willful murder of a completely innocent black man?

If you have the slightest qualms with any verb, noun or adjective in the sentence above, you are as much in Arrow's crosshairs of hate as the rest of us. You're a lying whitewashing cracker who's gonna pay soon.

10/10 Strawman. Would bang.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 09-25-2014, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Quick question. Do you think officer Wilson should already be behind bars for the cold-blooded willful murder of a completely innocent black man?

If you have the slightest qualms with any verb, noun or adjective in the sentence above, you are as much in Arrow's crosshairs of hate as the rest of us. You're a lying whitewashing cracker who's gonna pay soon.

Nope. From everything I've seen Darren Wilson was most likely justified in that shooting. And yeah, I know that. The difference is, I don't take it personal.

**Baby Lee** · 09-25-2014, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Nope. From everything I've seen Darren Wilson was most likely justified in that shooting. And yeah, I know that. The difference is, I don't take it personal.

Yes you do, just not from Arrow.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 09-25-2014, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

And FTR as well, I've never reported anything of any sort to any mod. I've never put anyone on ignore. And I've consistently for my entire time here been anti-ban.

It was just the schism in your reactions to 'this' racism [these ****ers will not stand so long as I draw breath] versus 'that' racism [oh, you little scamps] that struck me.

I know you haven't. I'm sorry if anyone else thought I was implying you as someone who has, because I never intended that.

Here's my thing BL, there is a huge difference too me between racism against white people vs racism against blacks. It's all ugly, but one version has been a metric **** ton more ugly than the other throughout history.

Spewing vitriol is just words. The inequalities, and challenges faced by our black brothers has been inexcusable, and disgusting in regards to economics, police brutality, and a large variety of other real world disadvantages they've faced vs just having people say mean shit to them.

I also know that plenty of white people have been hurt, and died at the hands of racist blacks. Would you say it's anywhere even remotely close to 50/50? I wouldn't, and that matters too me.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 09-25-2014, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Yes you do, just not from Arrow.

I'm working very hard on that, but I cannot dispute your assertion.

listopencil · 09-25-2014, 05:31 PM

I need to find a pair of those pointy Mexican boots. And then I need to start a Pointy Mexican Boots Fight Club in my town.

**Baby Lee** · 09-25-2014, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I know you haven't. I'm sorry if anyone else thought I was implying you as someone who has, because I never intended that.

Here's my thing BL, there is a huge difference too me between racism against white people vs racism against blacks. It's all ugly, but one version has been a metric **** ton more ugly than the other throughout history.

Spewing vitriol is just words. The inequalities, and challenges faced by our black brothers has been inexcusable, and disgusting in regards to economics, police brutality, and a large variety of other real world disadvantages they've faced vs just having people say mean shit to them.

I also know that plenty of white people have been hurt, and died at the hands of racist blacks. Would you say it's anywhere even remotely close to 50/50? I wouldn't, and that matters too me.

An acknowledgement is all I can ask for, I guess.

I prefer to treat adults like adults, but I'm not a mod, nor am I asking to be one.

Use your power as you will.

crazycoffey · 09-25-2014, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson

Oh, so you're one of the "5%" that decides to throw a legally-sanctioned tantrum if your Authoritah is disrespected. Good to know.

That's what you take from my post?

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 09-25-2014, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

An acknowledgement is all I can ask for, I guess.

I prefer to treat adults like adults, but I'm not a mod, nor am I asking to be one.

Use your power as you will.

That's not fair BL, and I think I've done my part in being open and honest about this. I don't involve myself in moderating revolving around racism, because I KNOW I'm more sensitive too it. I've made plenty of mistakes as a mod, but I know for a fact that since my own little hiatus I'm doing a much better job, and not allowing my emotions to affect my decision making. I even apologized if it even sounded like my opinion of people beating on Arrow sounded like a mod directive, because it wasn't. At all. That was with no one accusing me of it, just me being sensitive that it MAY HAVE come across that way. And I can see now that it did.

Disclaimer: The one ban I've made since coming back around was for racism. But it was blatant, and a huge violation of the TOS. Other posters called for it before I pulled the trigger.

**Baby Lee** · 09-25-2014, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

That's not fair BL, and I think I've done my part in being open and honest about this. I don't involve myself in moderating revolving around racism, because I KNOW I'm more sensitive too it. I've made plenty of mistakes as a mod, but I know for a fact that since my own little hiatus I'm doing a much better job, and not allowing my emotions to affect my decision making. I even apologized if it even sounded like my opinion of people beating on Arrow sounded like a mod directive, because it wasn't. At all. That was with no one accusing me of it, just me being sensitive that it MAY HAVE come across that way. And I can see now that it did.

To be clear, I meant use your power going forward, not referring to this specific thread. I acknowledge your earlier clarification herein.

crazycoffey · 09-25-2014, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I know you haven't. I'm sorry if anyone else thought I was implying you as someone who has, because I never intended that.

Here's my thing BL, there is a huge difference too me between racism against white people vs racism against blacks. It's all ugly, but one version has been a metric **** ton more ugly than the other throughout history.

Spewing vitriol is just words. The inequalities, and challenges faced by our black brothers has been inexcusable, and disgusting in regards to economics, police brutality, and a large variety of other real world disadvantages they've faced vs just having people say mean shit to them.

I also know that plenty of white people have been hurt, and died at the hands of racist blacks. Would you say it's anywhere even remotely close to 50/50? I wouldn't, and that matters too me.

Historically speaking, yes, it's been one sides as ****, but the last five years? I'd disagree. According to the media, I'm sure you're right, but the media is worse than historical racism when it comes to just stirring the pot.

Why is the brown incident even a race debate?

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 09-25-2014, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

To be clear, I meant use your power going forward, not referring to this specific thread. I acknowledge your earlier clarification herein.

I don't really know what else to say, because I'm trying to be clear about the moderating thing. I have always been anti-ban as well, and I'll be the first to admit that I didn't follow that creed in a lot of my early decision making. I am following it now, and do not remotely want people to think that I'm going to push the big red button if they disagree with me, or somehow piss me off personally. All I can do is walk the walk and let actions speak louder than words.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 09-25-2014, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by crazycoffey

Historically speaking, yes, it's been one sides as ****, but the last five years? I'd disagree. According to the media, I'm sure you're right, but the media is worse than historical racism when it comes to just stirring the pot.

Why is the brown incident even a race debate?

I believe with all of my heart that the Brown incident has set back the movement for blacks in regards to racism. The whole thing from my perspective has been about lies, and pushing an agenda, facts be damned. And that's a gigantic ****ing shame too me.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 09-25-2014, 05:46 PM

BL, you kind of remind me of Logical at this point. He was another poster that I absolutely adored that really couldn't stand me. What can I say? I'll always love you...

**Baby Lee** · 09-25-2014, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I don't really know what else to say, because I'm trying to be clear about the moderating thing. I have always been anti-ban as well, and I'll be the first to admit that I didn't follow that creed in a lot of my early decision making. I am following it now, and do not remotely want people to think that I'm going to push the big red button if they disagree with me, or somehow piss me off personally. All I can do is walk the walk and let actions speak louder than words.

I think you're misreading me. You sense that I'm daring you to exert power inappropriately. I'm saying I'm through caring what the mods do around here anymore. This place has bigger problems [ie, hateful fans and inextricably entrenched positions and cliques] than banhammers anymore.

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