Would you trade Alex Smith for Colin Kaepernick straight up?

[Alex Smith 4Ever]

I would not. Alex is a better quarterback right now and does not have the off field incidents of Kaepernick

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

And even though I was man enough to come back and admit that I was DEAD WRONG about Alex Smith and ate enough crow to kill a small 3rd-world nation, I'm an asshole quitter.

You are an asshole quitter because you admitted to leaving for a while because you disagreed with F/O moves, and had said repeatedly that "you no longer care" what happens with the Chiefs."

Your words... but you will likely backtrack from this as well to "save face" and keep your green rep up. Pathetic!

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I don't care about rep.

Only someone who REALLY cares about rep disables it.

my rep is in the GREEN, fool... why would I care about being in the green and then disable it? So stupid.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

... and there's always OTW58 that follows along after him, lol! Two peas in a pod! Love it!

Cute, but feel free to ask anyone who has been here for any significant amount of time to name the 5 best football posters on this board.

While it might rub your vagina the wrong way, he'll be named over 80% of the time - and that's being conservative.

Forget about rep color - making a comment like the one you made tells the membership here everything they need to know about you.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

You are an asshole quitter because you admitted to leaving for a while because you disagreed with F/O moves, and had said repeatedly that "you no longer care" what happens with the Chiefs."

Your words... but you will likely backtrack from this as well to "save face" and keep your green rep up. Pathetic!

I told everyone why I left and it wasn't because of the Chiefs or any of their personnel moves.

Once again, you're completely wrong. There's no need for me to save face, everybody knows why I left.

[temper11]

Might I remind everyone that, in the end, we all want the same thing. (Why is it that everytime I say that it sounds like I want it "in-the-ass"?) Dammit.

At the end of the day, we all want the same thing. There, fixed.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by temper11

Might I remind everyone that, in the end, we all want the same thing. (Why is it that everytime I say that it sounds like I want it "in-the-ass"?) Dammit.

At the end of the day, we all want the same thing. There, fixed.

So you originally said "we all want the same thing in the end"?



I sent Sandy a PM. As far as I'm concerned, I was wrong and this is over.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

One of the longest tenured and most respected posters on this board is "the worst poster here".

I've seen some stupid shit posted here, but this might take the cake.

What do you expect these Alex only fans are +14 years behind the curve( including the KCStar BB) in comparison to realize their ignorance

[temper11]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

So you originally said "we all want the same thing in the end"?



I sent Sandy a PM. As far as I'm concerned, I was wrong and this is over.

I think more often than not, these "flare-ups" are just more miscommunication than mal-content. It's the product of written (typed) communication. I had to step away there, so I missed a lot of the fire works. I know Sandy meant no harm, but as you know, I wasn't aiming to "put you in your place"... And I for one hope that he isn't moderated out because his is another valued opinion - and lets be honest... one of the best avatar's here (speaking of "wanting the same thing in the end")!... HELLO!

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

What do you expect these Alex only fans are +14 years behind the curve( including the KCStar BB) in comparison to realize their ignorance

First of all, that's not really fair or accurate. Sure, I became a strong fan due to Alex coming to KC.. but I'd always liked KC and many of their players prior to that. As I watched every game this past season, I grew to like those and more players as well. To be perfectly honest, if gun to head and forced to truth, I'd say I am more a Chiefs fan than 49ers fan at this point. That's for many reasons.. and not just Alex.

I await the typical response now of "no one cares, **** off and die in an aids tree fire soaked with antifreeze."

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

First of all, that's not really fair or accurate. Sure, I became a strong fan due to Alex coming to KC.. but I'd always liked KC and many of their players prior to that. As I watched every game this past season, I grew to like those and more players as well. To be perfectly honest, if gun to head and forced to truth, I'd say I am more a Chiefs fan than 49ers fan at this point. That's for many reasons.. and not just Alex.

I await the typical response now of "no one cares, **** off and die in an aids tree fire soaked with antifreeze."

Right.......... and your join date proves that , yep a real die hard that suffered through the shit times and can give valid opinions instead crushing on Alex.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Right.......... and your join date proves that , yep a real die hard that suffered through the shit times and can give valid opinions instead crushing on Alex.

never said any of that. I don't pretend to know your previous pain. Frankly, the pain of the past is.. in the past.. and should have no real impact on the present and future. If you need therapy, then seek it. You need to move on and spare yourself, then that works too.

People are built differently, and handle sports disappointments differently... there's no shame in that.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

never said any of that. I don't pretend to know your previous pain. Frankly, the pain of the past is.. in the past.. and should have no real impact on the present and future. If you need therapy, then seek it. You need to move on and spare yourself, then that works too.

People are built differently, and handle sports disappointments differently... there's no shame in that.

Case in point, thanks for underscoring your existence here.

[Kaepernick]

Originally Posted by BeeHo

Then by all means present the adjusted pass completion percentages overall, 0-9 yards, 10+ yards, 20+ yards, etc. Prove that Kap is an accurate passer. I don't suscribe to PFF to be able to extract the data.

Using a single play with a poor image of anquan boldin's td catch (you're making it look like he can't jump vertically; btw i know a good optometrist).

Btw, patriots ranked 2nd in most dropped passes (41 total) which contributes to Tom Brady's overall accuracy. 49ers were 15th in most dropped passes.

McCown had a strong season for the games he played ; 13 td: 1 int ; 109 rating.


PFF "2013 aDOT-Adjusted Completion Percentage" - Mike Clay:

"We want to adjust each quarterback’s completion percentage based on the distance of his throws. Quarterbacks who usually throw a lot of screens and short passes will be punished. Those who aren’t afraid to chuck it deep will be rewarded." "Remember, it’s just an adjusted version of completion percentage that removes wasted plays and counts drops as completions."
- So Alex Smith should be punished for all the screens/check downs and Kap's comp % should be a lot better compared to other QBs, right?

Actual C%:

Name C% [may have typos; I couldn't rank them, didn't have time; maybe later]

Aaron Rodgers 79.9
Philip Rivers 78.8
Josh McCown 77.8
Peyton Manning 77.6
Drew Brees 76.2
Nick Foles 74.8

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Alex Smith 73.7
Russell Wilson 72.3
Tom Brady 71.7
Andrew Luck 71.2
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EJ Manuel 68.6
Brandon Weeden 68.5
Joe Flacco 68.3
Colin Kaepernick 68.2
Geno Smith 67.6
Eli Manning 67.6

Noting an outcome doesn't reveal a skill set.

You can't say a marksman who hits 70% of his bullseye's at 100 yards is a better shot that a marksman who hits 55% of his bullseye's at 1000 yards. Unless both are shooting at the same range, you can't compare them. So you can't compare Alex's high-percentage heavy passing with Kaepernick's.

Back on the real subject of Kaepernick's accuracy, here AGAIN for all of you who ignored it, is a chart showing that last year Kaepernick was the 2nd most accurate deep passing QB in the league last year. Unless you think that completing deep passes has NOTHING to do with passing accuracy.

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"But who's throwing the most accurate deep throws? Pro Football Focus also tracks receiver drops, so instead of completion percentage—which knocks the QB for throws that should have been caught—we can use PFF's "accuracy" figure, which is a measurement of how many throws were on target (completions + drops over attempts):"




Source article for you to ignore:

http://regressing.deadspin.com/chart...nfl-1469917039

[Kaepernick]

Originally Posted by PGM

Is Kaperdick hootie? There could only be one person on the planet dumb enough to argue that this clown is the best in the league.

I said both Alex and Kaepernick are mid-tier QBs at this time. I said Alex has hit a plateau while Kaepernick has the elite potential to be the best in the league, someday.

I know my posts require at least a 3rd grade reading level, but try to keep up.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Kaepernick

I said both Alex and Kaepernick are mid-tier QBs at this time. I said Alex has hit a plateau while Kaepernick has the elite potential to be the best in the league, someday.

I know my posts require at least a 3rd grade reading level, but try to keep up.

basing the bolded on... a hunch? your gut? just don't feel like he can get even better? Do you feel Smith improved from 2011 to 2012? If so.. why can he not improve further now that he will be further immersed in Reid's system and perhaps an added upgrade at WR?