News Trade deadline update....brief take from Coach Reid - Page 2

T-post Tom · 04:41 AM

The general feeling in Kansas City post-deadline day is that the Chiefs tried all they could to make a deadline move happen, but the fit and value just weren’t there.

We referred you to the report from friend of the site Terez Paylor (Yahoo! Sports) this morning, who wrote this:

The Chiefs expressed interest in (Landon) Collins, but the Giants weren’t interested in trading him, Yahoo Sports has learned. Same goes for (Patrick) Peterson, who the Cardinals also weren’t open to trading. A source with knowledge of the club’s thinking also told Yahoo Sports that the Chiefs were not interested in (Janoris) Jenkins, an expensive, 30-year-old corner with uneven tape this season.

If you haven’t had the opportunity to yet, read Paylor’s full column for a glimpse into the Chiefs’ thinking. Paylor also goes through the several reasons the Chiefs didn’t trade for safety HaHa Clinton-Dix, who ultimately landed with Alex Smith in Washington. I provided my take on the Chiefs standing pat at the deadline here.

Still-Giants safety Landon Collins told SNY the Giants wanted a first or second-round pick for his services, plus an additional pick next year.

Landon Collins (on @TMKSESPN) said the Giants “were asking a little bit too much for me, so (teams) just kind of backed off.” ... He heard the Giants wanted a first or second-round pick in 2019 plus a pick next year. https://t.co/aeQ1kbHesG
— Ralph Vacchiano (@RVacchianoSNY) October 30, 2018

The local Kansas City media asked Chiefs head coach Andy Reid for his take on the quiet deadline on Wednesday. In response, Reid told the media to ask general manager Brett Veach, who wasn’t made available for questions.

“I mean that’d probably be a good question for Brett (Veach),” Reid said. “I know where his mind is, there just wasn’t anything there that he felt he needed to move on. He felt comfortable with doing that. He’s not going to do something just to do it to appease.

“He’s going to do what’s best for the Chiefs and he’s really good about that. That’s just where he’s at.”

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2bikemike · 11-01-2018, 07:59 AM

It sounds like Veach has the big picture mentality. A lot of us fans are sick and tired of watching the franchise reach for that golden ring only to fall off the ladder. So we bitch, moan and cry about making moves. There is a reason we are doing the jobs we are doing and Veach is doing the job he is doing!

htismaqe · 11-01-2018, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

If you want them to re-sign guys like Chris Jones, Tyreek Hill, Dee Ford, etc., then they are going to need to those draft picks on rookie contracts.

This idea that they won't be able to re-sign anybody is a myth.

They could have done both. They didn't. Time to move on.

WhawhaWhat · 11-01-2018, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

This idea that they won't be able to re-sign anybody is a myth.

They could have done both. They didn't. Time to move on.

Just a myth.. well I'm glad we solved that problem.

Kiimo · 11-01-2018, 08:17 AM

I really like Landon Collins but he is not the missing piece to winning games. They're doing that with scrub safeties and with Sorenson and possibly Berry coming back we already have the talent injection for the playoffs.

The Giants are gigantic idiots, by the way. They now get nothing and Collins will leave anyway.

**BigRedChief** · 11-01-2018, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike

I'm calling b******* on the fact that Andy said he leaves it all to veach. I'm sure he has some input into this.

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

Why? I'm sure that Veach probably talks to Andy about decisions like this, but ultimately it is Veach's call.

Besides Bellicheck, none of these GM/Head Football Coach’s have worked out or produced a Super Bowl. It should remain Veach’s call.

Sannyasi · 11-01-2018, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

This idea that they won't be able to re-sign anybody is a myth.

They could have done both. They didn't. Time to move on.

We know you are a salary cap truther but the reality is teams let guys go for cap reasons all the time.

**loochy** · 11-01-2018, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

I really like Landon Collins but he is not the missing piece to winning games. They're doing that with scrub safeties and with Sorenson and possibly Berry coming back we already have the talent injection for the playoffs.

The Giants are gigantic idiots, by the way. They now get nothing and Collins will leave anyway.

You know what? Better safety play may have won that New England game...
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**BigRedChief** · 11-01-2018, 08:22 AM

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You know what? Better safety play may have won that New England game...
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Thomas doesn’t break his leg, he’d probably be in a Chiefs uniform now.

Hoover · 11-01-2018, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

I really like Landon Collins but he is not the missing piece to winning games. They're doing that with scrub safeties and with Sorenson and possibly Berry coming back we already have the talent injection for the playoffs.

The Giants are gigantic idiots, by the way. They now get nothing and Collins will leave anyway.

Actually I bet they tag him and keep him around.

I think the problem with the Chiefs getting Landon was that he's good and young. At 24 he's a dude a rebuilding team can build around. I also don't think the Giants need a total rebuild, they just need a quarterback. I really think a QB fixes 70% of what's wrong with that team.

**MahiMike** · 11-01-2018, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

Why? I'm sure that Veach probably talks to Andy about decisions like this, but ultimately it is Veach's call.

Of course. But when Andy tries to tell us he leaves it all to veach? With no input? I don't think so.

oldman · 11-01-2018, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Thomas doesn’t break his leg, he’d probably be in a Chiefs uniform now.

True. And to say that Veach didn't address the safety position during the off season is not true. He drafted Watts and O'Daniel and traded for Lucas. Plus he was counting on Berry and didn't know Sorensen would be injured.

Kiimo · 11-01-2018, 08:37 AM

And in the great scheme of things the loss at NE doesn't really matter. You have to win games at the end of the season, you control your own destiny.

**loochy** · 11-01-2018, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

And in the great scheme of things the loss at NE doesn't really matter. You have to win games at the end of the season, you control your own destiny.

What? It matters a lot. That's a potential homefield throughout tiebreaker.
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Kiimo · 11-01-2018, 08:40 AM

Right now we control our own destiny. It doesn't matter until the Chiefs lose more games.

**BigRedChief** · 11-01-2018, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike

Of course. But when Andy tries to tell us he leaves it all to veach? With no input? I don't think so.

I’m sure Andy has input. The real kind.
It was Veach who screamed to anyone in the Chiefs organization that they had to move up and get Mahomes. Reid has spoken publicly about the number of times Veach was in his face that Mahomes was the man. Corner him and make him come and watch new tape on Mahomes. Moved Reid’s meetings to allow him to talk Mahomes to Reid.

Seems to me that Reid is going to trust his judgement after that experience.

11-01-2018, 04:23 AM
T-post Tom Threepeat! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland Casino cash: $4357293	Trade deadline update....brief take from Coach Reid The general feeling in Kansas City post-deadline day is that the Chiefs tried all they could to make a deadline move happen, but the fit and value just weren’t there. We referred you to the report from friend of the site Terez Paylor (Yahoo! Sports) this morning, who wrote this: The Chiefs expressed interest in (Landon) Collins, but the Giants weren’t interested in trading him, Yahoo Sports has learned. Same goes for (Patrick) Peterson, who the Cardinals also weren’t open to trading. A source with knowledge of the club’s thinking also told Yahoo Sports that the Chiefs were not interested in (Janoris) Jenkins, an expensive, 30-year-old corner with uneven tape this season. If you haven’t had the opportunity to yet, read Paylor’s full column for a glimpse into the Chiefs’ thinking. Paylor also goes through the several reasons the Chiefs didn’t trade for safety HaHa Clinton-Dix, who ultimately landed with Alex Smith in Washington. I provided my take on the Chiefs standing pat at the deadline here. Still-Giants safety Landon Collins told SNY the Giants wanted a first or second-round pick for his services, plus an additional pick next year. Landon Collins (on @TMKSESPN) said the Giants “were asking a little bit too much for me, so (teams) just kind of backed off.” ... He heard the Giants wanted a first or second-round pick in 2019 plus a pick next year. https://t.co/aeQ1kbHesG — Ralph Vacchiano (@RVacchianoSNY) October 30, 2018 The local Kansas City media asked Chiefs head coach Andy Reid for his take on the quiet deadline on Wednesday. In response, Reid told the media to ask general manager Brett Veach, who wasn’t made available for questions. “I mean that’d probably be a good question for Brett (Veach),” Reid said. “I know where his mind is, there just wasn’t anything there that he felt he needed to move on. He felt comfortable with doing that. He’s not going to do something just to do it to appease. “He’s going to do what’s best for the Chiefs and he’s really good about that. That’s just where he’s at.” https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ade-to-appease Last edited by T-post Tom; 11-01-2018 at 04:41 AM..
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11-01-2018, 07:59 AM	#16
2bikemike Born to Ride Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: NWA Casino cash: $2115377	It sounds like Veach has the big picture mentality. A lot of us fans are sick and tired of watching the franchise reach for that golden ring only to fall off the ladder. So we bitch, moan and cry about making moves. There is a reason we are doing the jobs we are doing and Veach is doing the job he is doing!
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11-01-2018, 08:17 AM	#19
Kiimo MVP Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Studio City, CA Casino cash: $3738742	I really like Landon Collins but he is not the missing piece to winning games. They're doing that with scrub safeties and with Sorenson and possibly Berry coming back we already have the talent injection for the playoffs. The Giants are gigantic idiots, by the way. They now get nothing and Collins will leave anyway.
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11-01-2018, 08:37 AM	#27
Kiimo MVP Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Studio City, CA Casino cash: $3738742	And in the great scheme of things the loss at NE doesn't really matter. You have to win games at the end of the season, you control your own destiny.
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11-01-2018, 08:40 AM	#29
Kiimo MVP Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Studio City, CA Casino cash: $3738742	Right now we control our own destiny. It doesn't matter until the Chiefs lose more games.
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