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Old 04-14-2018, 10:14 AM  
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Middlekauf podcast with Andy
https://twitter.com/johnmiddlekauff/...775880192?s=21

I’m on my phone and can’t figure out how to embed

Some interesting stuff in there
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Old 04-14-2018, 02:49 PM   #16
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He may say that but I’m not sure I believe it
Yeah nobody will ever say it publicly but we all know Andy runs this shit. Veach isn’t a yes man, but no doubt about it...it’s Andy Reid is clearly 2nd in command after Clark.
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Old 04-14-2018, 02:52 PM   #17
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Yeah nobody will ever say it publicly but we all know Andy runs this shit. Veach isn’t a yes man, but no doubt about it...it’s Andy Reid is clearly 2nd in command after Clark.
Saying the HC has more power than the GM isn’t the same thing as saying the HC IS the GM.

Reid tells Veach go get me a ___ and Veach finds the player. There’s nothing wrong with that approach when you have one of the best HC’s in the business and a GM with an eye for talent.
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Old 04-14-2018, 02:58 PM   #18
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Lol I guess you’re one of those idiots then

I think it’s pretty obvious that is exactly the case based on everything we’ve heard about Veach and Reid’s relationship going back to Philly. Why the **** would Reid be lying for years about Veach bringing guys like Mahomes, Cox, DJax, and McCoy to his attention? And if that’s the case, why didn’t he do the same with a guy like Hunt that he took some credit for?

As somebody that actually loves a good conspiracy, this is the equivalent of the Flat Earth theory.
Reid’s previous gm that’s on twitter says the opposite.
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Old 04-14-2018, 02:58 PM   #19
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Reid’s previous gm that’s on twitter says the opposite.
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How many guys has Veach brought to their attention that they didn’t take?

In the end, Andy’s running the show
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Old 04-14-2018, 03:00 PM   #21
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How many guys has Veach brought to their attention that they didn’t take?

In the end, Andy’s running the show
Well since Reid has yet to have a draft with Veach as the GM, of course that would be the case. I’m talking about how this is going to be based on the information at hand.

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Reid tells Veach go get me a ___ and Veach finds the player. There’s nothing wrong with that approach when you have one of the best HC’s in the business and a GM with an eye for talent.
If you think it’s any different, you’re an idiot. Andy Reid is not scouting 200+ players, watching a shit ton of film, leading scouting discussions, and in charge of making every pick on draft day. He might have a preference between the options Veach has presented, and I’m sure that factors in, but Veach is the guy finding our draft picks.
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Old 04-14-2018, 03:08 PM   #23
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I think andy is a lot more involved than he let’s on though
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Technically, this guy was never the GM in Philly. He was the President.

So, John Dorsey, a prime GM candidate that passed up other oppurutnies to be the man in the past, finally left GB to answer to Andy Reid on draft day? Andy Reid all of a sudden became a SPARQ guy? He was coaching and watching 200+ prospects and putting together our draft board? His drafts all of a sudden got way better than when he was actually in charge of personnel in Philly?

I don’t doubt that Reid maybe has “final say” on early picks, but he’s still drafting the guys that his GM finds either way. It’s not like Dorsey/Veach do all the dirty work only for Reid to come in and say “I liked so and so when I watched that bowl game I think I’ll just take him instead”. That’s the point I’m trying to make here.
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Technically, this guy was never the GM in Philly. He was the President.

So, John Dorsey, a prime GM candidate that passed up other oppurutnies to be the man in the past, finally left GB to answer to Andy Reid on draft day? Andy Reid all of a sudden became a SPARQ guy? He was coaching and watching 200+ prospects and putting together our draft board? His drafts all of a sudden got way better than when he was actually in charge of personnel in Philly?

I don’t doubt that Reid maybe has “final say”, but he’s still drafting the guys that his GM finds either way. It’s not like Dorsey/Veach do all the dirty work only for Reid to come in and say “I liked so and so when I watched that bowl game I think I’ll just take him instead”. That’s the point I’m trying to make here.
I don’t think he makes the draft boards but I think he does a lot more homework on it than he let’s on.

Andy is one of the higher tenured well respected guys in the league. He’s got a lot of power here so I’d say he has say in about everything
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And I’d imagine banner would know as well as anyone the way it goes with andy
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sounds like sour grapes bullshit hearsay
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Link to actual podcast with Andy and not a list of shitty Itunes links for me to garbage through?

EDIT: Never mind, found it. There is no song good enough nor podcast interesting enough for me to install shitty Itunes on my PC.
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Well since Reid has yet to have a draft with Veach as the GM, of course that would be the case. I’m talking about how this is going to be based on the information at hand.



If you think it’s any different, you’re an idiot. Andy Reid is not scouting 200+ players, watching a shit ton of film, leading scouting discussions, and in charge of making every pick on draft day. He might have a preference between the options Veach has presented, and I’m sure that factors in, but Veach is the guy finding our draft picks.
Don’t call me an idiot !!!!


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Haha I’m just giving you shit man. I think we agree for the most part. I’m not saying Reid doesn’t have more of the power compared to the average HC/GM duo, but Veach is the one that’s going to find the guys we end up drafting either way, along with his scouting team. Even if Reid has “final say” it’s obvious Reid trusts these guys and lets them do their job, which is why he’s had more success than he did in Philly when he had total control in personnel too.
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