Jets get screwed on TD call. Overturned to a touchback.

[Hammock Parties]

League trying to set up that Chiefs-Pats matchup in the postseason, amirite BlackBob?

Ruled a TD on play



"Indisputable evidence" that it was a touchback.

[dj56dt58]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

He obviously lost control of the ball before he got into the end zone.

lol, care to screen shot the end of the play when he had possession and touched the pylon?

[dj56dt58]

The call itself makes no ****ing sense at all. If that happens mid field it's not a fumble. The ball never hit the ground. ****ing stupid

[petegz28]

looked to me like he regained control before he hit the ground

[Chief Pagan]

The play is over when he touches the pylon. I don't think he had control at that point.


I think they got the call correct.

I've disliked the rule about a fumble through the end zone being a touchback.

[Discuss Thrower]

Here's how the decision flowchart should flow:

+) Does the offensive player have clear possession of the ball at the point in which the ball breaks the plane of the goal line?

If he had clear possession: touchdown. If not, review to see if there was a definitive moment where the offensive player neither had clear possession nor broke the plane.

+) Does the offensive player receive the ball via a pass thrown through the plane of the end zone and does he clearly have control of the ball through the point he has established himself in the end zone with the touch of both feet to the ground?

If yes: touchdown; if no: review to see if the ball was clearly not under the receiver' control at the point when both of his feet make contact with the ground of the end zone.

[Nzoner]

Originally Posted by TribalElder

How much did that call impact the betting lines

It really depends on when you bet because the line was Pats -9.5 and closed at 9 and the Over/Under opened at 47 and closed at 48.5

Basically if you had the spread and the O/U at 47 you were happy as hell to see that call made in "hopes" that the pats would go and score.As it worked out that didn't happen but it at least made for entertaining tv.

[Frazod]

I think the bigger issue here is does this get called for anybody else but the Cheatriots?

When was the last time another team was a beneficiary of the tuck rule?

[Imon Yourside]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

It was bobbled, but he had it under control before hitting the pylon

Correct, there is zero evidence of anything else to overturn it.

[RippedmyFlesh]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

I've disliked the rule about a fumble through the end zone being a touchback.

I hate that rule too hard to think of alternative.

[Nzoner]

Originally Posted by Frazod

I think the bigger issue here is does this get called for anybody else but the Cheatriots?

When was the last time another team was a beneficiary of the tuck rule?

They did away the tuck rule a few years ago

[JD10367]

I hope the Patriots beat the Chiefs in the AFCCG on a play just like this, so I can watch the reactions here.

[carlos3652]

Guys, it was the correct call. By the time he has possession again, the player was out of bounds. Had he had control prior to going out of bounds it would have been ruled a td.

You can’t fumble the ball forward. If you do, you get the ball back where you fumble, that is the case anywhere on the field except the end zone.

This call happens from time to time inside the end zone. Its a turnover. I don’t mind the rule... and if you gave me a choice between changing this or what’s considered a catch in the end zone (megatron’s catch or even Harris’ catch last night) i would want them to change that first

[BigRichard]

When he hits the pylon he has control of the ball as far as I can tell unless someone has a better angle? If it was ruled a touchdown on the field that should not have been overruled if that is all they had to see.

[007]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

He obviously lost control of the ball before he got into the end zone.

The problem here is that there is no 100% clear evidence that he didn't regain control before going out of bounds.

[007]

Originally Posted by carlos3652

Guys, it was the correct call. By the time he has possession again, the player was out of bounds. Had he had control prior to going out of bounds it would have been ruled a td.

You can’t fumble the ball forward. If you do, you get the ball back where you fumble, that is the case anywhere on the field except the end zone.

This call happens from time to time inside the end zone. Its a turnover. I don’t mind the rule... and if you gave me a choice between changing this or what’s considered a catch in the end zone (megatron’s catch or even Harris’ catch last night) i would want them to change that first

There is not 100% evidence of that part.