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Old 01-25-2017, 01:51 PM   #1
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Old 01-25-2017, 01:52 PM   #2
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Old 01-25-2017, 02:44 PM   #3
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Old 01-25-2017, 07:44 PM   #4
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Old 01-25-2017, 02:47 PM   #5
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Old 01-25-2017, 02:47 PM   #6
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So much for the bullshit about Ballard getting a raise with the Chiefs.
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Old 01-25-2017, 07:21 PM   #7
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So much for the bullshit about Ballard getting a raise with the Chiefs.
Elliott Wolf got a raise from the Packers and he's interviewing too.
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Old 01-25-2017, 09:16 PM   #8
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Elliott Wolf got a raise from the Packers and he's interviewing too.
You really think the Chiefs would give Ballard a raise WITHOUT Ballard agreeing to stay at least the next year?

Only if Hunt/Dorsey/Reid were idiots.

Any new contract/raise would absolutely include something that kept Ballard in KC for another year.
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Old 01-26-2017, 12:06 PM   #9
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You really think the Chiefs would give Ballard a raise WITHOUT Ballard agreeing to stay at least the next year?

Only if Hunt/Dorsey/Reid were idiots.

Any new contract/raise would absolutely include something that kept Ballard in KC for another year.
That's not how business, or promotions, work.

Giving Ballard a raise is mutually exclusive from Ballard interviewing for a higher level position in another organization.

Also, if the Chiefs could have blocked him from interviewing but didn't.
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Old 01-26-2017, 12:09 PM   #10
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That's not how business, or promotions, work.

Giving Ballard a raise is mutually exclusive from Ballard interviewing for a higher level position in another organization.

Also, if the Chiefs could have blocked him from interviewing but didn't.
How exactly do front office contracts work?

Are they in any way similar to player contracts?

I doubt it...
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Old 01-26-2017, 12:34 PM   #11
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That's not how business, or promotions, work.

Giving Ballard a raise is mutually exclusive from Ballard interviewing for a higher level position in another organization.

Also, if the Chiefs could have blocked him from interviewing but didn't.
Sure that's how it works if the employer is just giving an employee a raise.

but that's not what was happening, it was a leverage situation

I've been on both sides of the situation

Workers - Headhunter wants me to leave
Boss- we want you to stay
Worker - I dunno, it's a good opportunity
Boss - How about if we give you a raise, would that help you decide to stay?
Worker - Ok, sounds good to me
Boss - Sound great, you agree to stay another year and we increase you pay xxx amount. How's that?
Worker - Yes, I'll stay or No, I need more money than that. (rinse/repeat bargain wage)

That would be how a friendly and respectful employment situation works. The Employer and Employee both give something and get something ... win/win.

If the employee is doing one of these ... "I'll take the raise but that doesn't mean shit about me leaving" then he's being a disrespectful dick.

If Ballard wants to interview to leave, then fine ... do it.
If Ballard wants to use an interview as leverage to get a raise but then stay ... fine.

His talent and marketability give him that power and give him that choice.

But you don't do BOTH unless you don't give a **** about your current employment situation.
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Old 01-26-2017, 12:10 PM   #12
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You really think the Chiefs would give Ballard a raise WITHOUT Ballard agreeing to stay at least the next year?

Only if Hunt/Dorsey/Reid were idiots.

Any new contract/raise would absolutely include something that kept Ballard in KC for another year.
No employer would force an employee to stay with them and not interview for a job they want unless they are morons.
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Sounds like the Chiefs did Ballard a solid by pretending to block the interview with the 49ers.

Not sure this is a whole lot better given that he's working for Irsay. But I guess he'll probably let the GM do whatever he wants.

It'll be interesting to see how he does if he leaves. Has been a genius in KC so I don't want him to go. But he was also kind of a disaster in Chicago.
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Old 01-25-2017, 05:18 PM   #15
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Sounds like the Chiefs did Ballard a solid by pretending to block the interview with the 49ers.

Not sure this is a whole lot better given that he's working for Irsay. But I guess he'll probably let the GM do whatever he wants.

It'll be interesting to see how he does if he leaves. Has been a genius in KC so I don't want him to go. But he was also kind of a disaster in Chicago.
Hard to say if he's a guy that needs a steadying influence to keep from going off the rails or not. Some people just aren't quite cut out for the big chair but can be invaluable lieutenants.

But I'd hate to see him go to Indy and do well. Sooner or later Brady's stranglehold on this conference will end and if a competent GM takes over and makes it Luck's decade, well won't that just be a kick in the balls?
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