Science Anyone here ever have a torn labrum? - Page 2

Frosty · 11-17-2016, 04:46 PM

I have been having problems with my right bicep and shoulder for a while now and finally got around to going to the doctor about it. They poked and prodded but basically said to try physical therapy before doing a MRI to actually see what's going on.

The PT decided I might have a partially torn labrum, where the bicep tendons attach to the shoulder joint. He didn't seem very positive about the whole PT thing and kind of insinuated that I might have to learn to live with it. It severely limits the range of motion so that would suck.

Reading about it online, it sounds like surgery may be the only option but it introduces other issues (adhesions and scar tissue). So I was wondering if anyone here has had the surgery - especially if you are older - and had it be a success. Or if anyone has gotten better just with PT. So far, PT has mostly just made it hurt more but I am open to the idea it may work.

Just for reference, the issues I am having is limited range of motion and pain when pushed too far. I can touch my left shoulder but not my back over the shoulder like I can with my left. If you "make a muscle" (think Billay) and then rotate your forearm from 90° up to 90° down, I can only go about halfway down (parallel to the floor, not perpendicular). Pulling down on something, like closing a double hung window, flares intense pain in my bicep and shoulder. Reaching behind myself, like to tuck in a shirt, is awkward and painful.

Ok - commence labia jokes now. However, I am hoping to get a few serious answers too.

Frosty · 11-17-2016, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Reaching for shampoo is always a fun one in the shower as well. Good luck it's a pain in the ass injury.

Especially since I am very right handed. The PT told me to avoid using it and I am pretty sure that's impossible.

Reaching to the side isn't bad. Reaching forward is really stiff and reaching behind is very painful.

Frosty · 11-17-2016, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Yep, a woman I work with had surgery to repair a torn labrum in her hip. She's still in pretty rough shape after 6 weeks of rehab.

Ouch.

If anyone is unsure, it's the cartilage in the socket that the ball of the arm or leg fits into.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 11-17-2016, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty

Especially since I am very right handed. The PT told me to avoid using it and I am pretty sure that's impossible.

Reaching to the side isn't bad. Reaching forward is really stiff and reaching behind is very painful.

Time to start prepping Mrs. Frosty for the idea of wiping your ass for 3-6 weeks after having surgery.

Frosty · 11-17-2016, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Time to start prepping Mrs. Frosty for the idea of wiping your ass for 3-6 weeks after having surgery.

The sounds you just heard were divorce papers being hastily filed.

ChiefsCountry · 11-17-2016, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty

Especially since I am very right handed. The PT told me to avoid using it and I am pretty sure that's impossible.

Reaching to the side isn't bad. Reaching forward is really stiff and reaching behind is very painful.

Best part of PT other than the hot blonde therapist was getting the shock treatment on the shoulder. Very relaxing.

threebag · 11-17-2016, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Time to start prepping Mrs. Frosty for the idea of wiping your ass for 3-6 weeks after having surgery.

This sucks. When I lost my back before i had surgery. I was pissing in a bucket beside my bed and going shit was a hell of an ordeal. I did try to talk her into givin me a blumpkin though.

Frosty · 11-17-2016, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Best part of PT other than the hot blonde therapist was getting the shock treatment on the shoulder. Very relaxing.

Hey, I've had both of those already. Even had the hot blonde sit there and continually rub ice on my shoulder for quite a while. That was - weird. They did manage to free up a bothersome trigger point in my neck that had nothing to do with my shoulder so at least I've gotten something out of this so far.

JohnnyHammersticks · 11-17-2016, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty

I have been having problems with my right bicep and shoulder for a while now and finally got around to going to the doctor about it. They poked and prodded but basically said to try physical therapy before doing a MRI to actually see what's going on.

The PT decided I might have a partially torn labrum, where the bicep tendons attach to the shoulder joint. He didn't seem very positive about the whole PT thing and kind of insinuated that I might have to learn to live with it. It severely limits the range of motion so that would suck.

Reading about it online, it sounds like surgery may be the only option but it introduces other issues (adhesions and scar tissue). So I was wondering if anyone here has had the surgery - especially if you are older - and had it be a success. Or if anyone has gotten better just with PT. So far, PT has mostly just made it hurt more but I am open to the idea it may work.

Just for reference, the issues I am having is limited range of motion and pain when pushed too far. I can touch my left shoulder but not my back over the shoulder like I can with my left. If you "make a muscle" (think Billay) and then rotate your forearm from 90° up to 90° down, I can only go about halfway down (parallel to the floor, not perpendicular). Pulling down on something, like closing a double hung window, flares intense pain in my bicep and shoulder. Reaching behind myself, like to tuck in a shirt, is awkward and painful.

Ok - commence labia jokes now. However, I am hoping to get a few serious answers too.

I had rotator cuff/labrum surgery in 1999 by Russell Chick, who was team surgeon for the AZ Cardinals at the time. Post-surgery, you need to go to a good sports rehab place as soon as possible and really work your range of motion. Very painful, but if you don't start pushing your range of motion to the point of pain as soon as possible, it makes it almost impossible to get it all back. I'd say I have 95% range of motion in my left shoulder as compared to my right, which has never been operated on.

Your shoulder is immobilized by this stupid foam thing until your stitches come out. Hopefully it's not on the same side as the hand you use to wipe your butt, because it's not that easy to wipe with your off hand.

Hope that helps. In the overall scheme of surgeries you can have, it's not that bad.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 11-17-2016, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty

The sounds you just heard were divorce papers being hastily filed.

Frosty · 11-17-2016, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks

I had rotator cuff/labrum surgery in 1999 by Russell Chick, who was team surgeon for the AZ Cardinals at the time. Post-surgery, you need to go to a good sports rehab place as soon as possible and really work your range of motion. Very painful, but if you don't start pushing your range of motion to the point of pain as soon as possible, it makes it almost impossible to get it all back. I'd say I have 95% range of motion in my left shoulder as compared to my right, which has never been operated on.

Your shoulder is immobilized by this stupid foam thing until your stitches come out. Hopefully it's not on the same side as the hand you use to wipe your butt, because it's not that easy to wipe with your off hand.

Hope that helps. In the overall scheme of surgeries you can have, it's not that bad.

Very helpful. Thanks.

Frosty · 11-17-2016, 06:15 PM

Also - sounds like installing a bidet before surgery might be helpful.

raybec 4 · 11-17-2016, 06:50 PM

I hate to be the negative Nelly, but I've had my left shoulder operated on 5 times. Even resorting to total replacement on the last surgery. I'm only 44. I did all the PT and followed instructions, it just didn't work for me. If I could go back to just having the pain and limitations I had before my 1st surgery, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 11-17-2016, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4

I hate to be the negative Nelly, but I've had my left shoulder operated on 5 times. Even resorting to total replacement on the last surgery. I'm only 44. I did all the PT and followed instructions, it just didn't work for me. If I could go back to just having the pain and limitations I had before my 1st surgery, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

I really hope you're on Frosty's ignore list.

Frosty · 11-17-2016, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4

I hate to be the negative Nelly, but I've had my left shoulder operated on 5 times. Even resorting to total replacement on the last surgery. I'm only 44. I did all the PT and followed instructions, it just didn't work for me. If I could go back to just having the pain and limitations I had before my 1st surgery, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

This is exactly what I fear happening. My dad had shoulder surgery for a bone spur when he was about my age (52) and it completely dicked his shoulder up and it never got better.

Silock · 11-17-2016, 07:04 PM

Recently had a grade 3 ac joint separation. Tried PT and it didn't get better. Going for an MRI next week. Doc thinks it might be a torn labrum. If it is, going to try stem cells before surgery.

11-17-2016, 04:46 PM
Frosty Go Beavers! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Warshington Casino cash: $5428243	Anyone here ever have a torn labrum? I have been having problems with my right bicep and shoulder for a while now and finally got around to going to the doctor about it. They poked and prodded but basically said to try physical therapy before doing a MRI to actually see what's going on. The PT decided I might have a partially torn labrum, where the bicep tendons attach to the shoulder joint. He didn't seem very positive about the whole PT thing and kind of insinuated that I might have to learn to live with it. It severely limits the range of motion so that would suck. Reading about it online, it sounds like surgery may be the only option but it introduces other issues (adhesions and scar tissue). So I was wondering if anyone here has had the surgery - especially if you are older - and had it be a success. Or if anyone has gotten better just with PT. So far, PT has mostly just made it hurt more but I am open to the idea it may work. Just for reference, the issues I am having is limited range of motion and pain when pushed too far. I can touch my left shoulder but not my back over the shoulder like I can with my left. If you "make a muscle" (think Billay) and then rotate your forearm from 90° up to 90° down, I can only go about halfway down (parallel to the floor, not perpendicular). Pulling down on something, like closing a double hung window, flares intense pain in my bicep and shoulder. Reaching behind myself, like to tuck in a shirt, is awkward and painful. Ok - commence labia jokes now. However, I am hoping to get a few serious answers too.
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11-17-2016, 06:15 PM	#26
Frosty Go Beavers! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Warshington Casino cash: $5428243	Also - sounds like installing a bidet before surgery might be helpful.
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11-17-2016, 06:50 PM	#27
raybec 4 MVP Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: East Jabip Casino cash: $4983807	I hate to be the negative Nelly, but I've had my left shoulder operated on 5 times. Even resorting to total replacement on the last surgery. I'm only 44. I did all the PT and followed instructions, it just didn't work for me. If I could go back to just having the pain and limitations I had before my 1st surgery, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
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11-17-2016, 07:04 PM	#30
Silock MVP Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $10020882	Recently had a grade 3 ac joint separation. Tried PT and it didn't get better. Going for an MRI next week. Doc thinks it might be a torn labrum. If it is, going to try stem cells before surgery.
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