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Old 04-11-2016, 12:18 PM  
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Let's have a discussion about 2017.
As it currently sits, KC sits with 24m in cap space (according to overthecap and that doesn't include Ware/Wests deals) without Fisher, Poe or Berry under contract.

The team needs to either pick up Fishers 11.9m option (for 2017) by May 2nd iirc or decide to let him walk.

Fletcher Cox is turning down a 100m deal with 60 guaranteed...that impacts any negotiation KC is having with Poe...not sure how much, though.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall during the negotiations with Berry, too. Not too many safeties getting crazy money. I wonder what Berrys side is asking for and using as their leverage.

Eric Fisher is improving, but 12m is a lot of money.

Some big changes are on the horizon and I wouldn't be surprised if KC loses 1 or 2 of those guys.
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Old 04-11-2016, 04:30 PM   #16
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I can't believe this hasn't been brought up yet. Overthecap predicts we get 4 comp picks next year from the contracts of guys lost.

3.-->Sean Smith
4.-->Chase Daniel
6.-->Donald Stephenson
6.-->Tyvonn Branch
*Jeff Allen cancelled out by Mitchell Schwartz deal

It's gonna be fun as hell having 11 picks next year in the first year you can trade comp picks.
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Old 04-11-2016, 04:57 PM   #17
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I think they keep Poe, Berry, Fisher

you're going to see guys like Charles, Colquitt, Mauga, etc get cut though, their contracts basically say it out loud in 2017.
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Old 04-11-2016, 05:02 PM   #18
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I think they keep Poe, Berry, Fisher

you're going to see guys like Charles, Colquitt, Mauga, etc get cut though, their contracts basically say it out loud in 2017.
Charles is only if he takes a huge dip in production, but the others, yes. Along with a few more probably, if need be.
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Old 04-11-2016, 05:04 PM   #19
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I can't believe this hasn't been brought up yet. Overthecap predicts we get 4 comp picks next year from the contracts of guys lost.

3.-->Sean Smith
4.-->Chase Daniel
6.-->Donald Stephenson
6.-->Tyvonn Branch
*Jeff Allen cancelled out by Mitchell Schwartz deal

It's gonna be fun as hell having 11 picks next year in the first year you can trade comp picks.
That's why I don't see any need to trade back. We can use some 2017 picks (though not the comp picks) to get back into the 3rd, should we not get it back.
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Old 04-11-2016, 05:09 PM   #20
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It's going to be so much easier and common for teams to trade during the draft when that rule finally hits next year.
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Old 04-11-2016, 05:12 PM   #21
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Did you catch the interview of John Dorsey from a couple weeks ago?

He basically said they drafted Fisher with full understanding that his first 2 years were going to be bad and that he would start to get it in his third year if things go according to plan...

I thought that was a bit crazy to hear...they just saw that whole draft as crap.
being diplomatic...cause the other answer is "we were surprised he sucked so much ass his first two years...a total pussy" (and also the truth)
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Old 04-11-2016, 05:19 PM   #22
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so, CB is obviously a need, but i think you can easily make a case for DL in the first if the right guy is there (Butler)

poe and howard are up in the next two years...one will not be resigned (howard, imo)...Butler 'could' make this line something special for 2 years on the cheap and step right in as a starter when howard signs a big money deal somewhere else

and in a normal dl draft, butler wouldn't fall to us (even hypothetically)
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Old 04-11-2016, 05:20 PM   #23
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I can't believe this hasn't been brought up yet. Overthecap predicts we get 4 comp picks next year from the contracts of guys lost.

3.-->Sean Smith
4.-->Chase Daniel
6.-->Donald Stephenson
6.-->Tyvonn Branch
*Jeff Allen cancelled out by Mitchell Schwartz deal

It's gonna be fun as hell having 11 picks next year in the first year you can trade comp picks.
muy excellente...and look who we're getting value for...daniel, stephenson, branch...a backup, a joke, and a guy picked off the garbage heap

Dorsey is good at this
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Old 04-12-2016, 07:46 AM   #24
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Charles is only if he takes a huge dip in production, but the others, yes. Along with a few more probably, if need be.
We would free up 7 million in cap space and take 0 dead money, unless Charles takes a huge pay cut he's as good as gone regardless of production.

I'll take that 7 million to keep Poe, Berry, Fisher any day.
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We would free up 7 million in cap space and take 0 dead money, unless Charles takes a huge pay cut he's as good as gone regardless of production.

I'll take that 7 million to keep Poe, Berry, Fisher any day.
Well I think anyone would but if he goes out there and has another monster season, it would be hard to justify I would say
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Old 04-12-2016, 08:28 AM   #26
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Well I think anyone would but if he goes out there and has another monster season, it would be hard to justify I would say
I personally think he's about to get outplayed by Ware/West and it's just emotional attachment at this point to a fan favorite Chief that was the only good Chief during some terrible Fat Scott Pats Fraud years that everyone clung on to.
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Well shit. Guess we need to draft another OL at 1.28.
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I personally think he's about to get outplayed by Ware/West and it's just emotional attachment at this point to a fan favorite Chief that was the only good Chief during some terrible Fat Scott Pats Fraud years that everyone clung on to.
Possibly.

I think ware certainly has a chance, west is a bit overrated around here imo, but I think he's a solid player.

If Charles comes back healthy and in top form, he's a unique talent and combined with the current offensive weapons, could have an mvp type year.
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muy excellente...and look who we're getting value for...daniel, stephenson, branch...a backup, a joke, and a guy picked off the garbage heap

Dorsey is good at this
Next year is the year I'm looking at QB's. We could easily trade up wih that ammo if we wanted.
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