Windows 10

[MahiMike]

I love it!

My woes with using Yahoo mail on Windows 8 are now behind me. The mail app lets me combine my gmail, Hotmail and yahoo mail into 1 very clean interface.

Lots of other stuff I haven't even used yet. But so far 2 thumbs up!

[hometeam]

Originally Posted by DaFace

So...basically the same privacy agreement that social media sites have had for years then.

Not quite. Social media sites dont have access to every keystroke and file on your device, including keys to your encrypted disk, selling those to advertisers, while using your device and data plan as a server for its updates.

[rocknrolla]

Originally Posted by hometeam

While in another thread I urged everyone to upgrade it, that was before Microsofts new privacy policy, and the outing that basically everything you send, have on the PC, or use it for can be recorded by microsoft, and used to target ads at you, given to the government, and anything else. Hell, they even store your bitlocker encryption key if you write to an encrypted drive. Sure, it benefits you if you lose it, but they can (and will, as provided in the TOS) turn it over to the government if asked.

MOST of the stuff can be turned off or blocked, but regular users wont even know they are being strip mined for info like they are a coal mine in russia.

I'll wait to see if the backlash causes enough people to get pissed off that they change it, or that there is more known and better tools to protect yourself and your info.

My secondary PC has been running the beta, and performance and usability has been solid. I fortunately created a local account, so m icrsofot doesnt have access to EVERYTHING on the PC, but some settings cant be turned off in the beta.

While most of the data collection is being represented as benign, the TOS specifically states Microsoft can do pretty much whatever it wants with it. INCLUDING but not limited to, targeted advertisements right through your OS. Another troubling thing is that windows update in win 10 uses your PC as a bittorrent client, uploading via YOUR connection, updates to other windows users. Not only is this ****ing stupid for the end user, its a massive security hole just waiting to be exploited. It CAN be turned off, but again, most users are too naive, or not tech savvy enough to figure it out and get it off. So yes, win 10 is stealing your bandwidth by default.

I could also go on about how windows will now set your network password to be automatically sent to your Facebook and other contacts, and the only way to stop it is to RENAME YOUR SSID!! with _optout.



Seriously what in the ****ing ****.

Now we know why its 'free'.

http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2015/07/29/wind-nos/

https://jonathan.porta.codes/2015/07...vacy-defaults/

http://www.theguardian.com/technolog...fault-settings

So I am better off sticking with windows 7? That all seems pretty shady.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by rocknrolla

So I am better off sticking with windows 7? That all seems pretty shady.

You can kill a vast majority of it if you just pay attention to the settings when you're installing.

[DaveNull]

^^ Yeah, I wouldn't say that. I use 7 at work and I'd almost be willing to go to 8 if it means not having to look at those damn transparent windows any more.

I'll probably upgrade to 10 after some extensive testing. I need to bring both the OS X and Windows side up a couple releases.

[hometeam]

Originally Posted by rocknrolla

So I am better off sticking with windows 7? That all seems pretty shady.

Right now, im going to wait until people dig in a bit and there is an easy way to turn off a lot of the stuff that there are no current options for besides registry tweaks and host file settings. While I can do those, I am taking a wait and see approach to it.

[Demonpenz]

no way am I going to upgrade if it sends my info to the government. **** them

[hometeam]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

no way am I going to upgrade if it sends my info to the government. **** them

It doesnt send it to the government p[er se, it just sends everything (and I mean everything) to microsoft, who explicitly state they will give it to the government if they have 'good faith' there is a legal reason too.. meaning all they have to do is ask.

I wouldnt get too worked up as of now.. wait a month and I promise you there will be multiple win 10 privacy tools that will help you protect yourself.

Some of the stuff I dont mind giving to them, some I do.

[ragedogg69]

Originally Posted by DaveNull

^^ Yeah, I wouldn't say that. I use 7 at work and I'd almost be willing to go to 8 if it means not having to look at those damn transparent windows any more.

turn off the Aero theme?

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by rocknrolla

So I am better off sticking with windows 7? That all seems pretty shady.

Nobody who cares at all about their privacy should be using Windows 10 right now.

[JD10367]

I'm not fond of 10 so far. Too cluttered, too many options and stuff popping up, too many things of different shapes and access points. Call me an old fogey but I was perfectly fine with a simple frigging desktop where I clicked on a folder or an icon and that was it. I don't need stupid "apps" that make my desktop look like an iPhone.

Anyways, I just went into Privacy and basically went down the list and clicked every single selection to "Off". Not sure what else or where else I have to go in this thing to make it more secure but that's a start. No big deal, though, since I only surf for porn while on my iPhone using a private browser.

[hometeam]

Originally Posted by JD10367

I'm not fond of 10 so far. Too cluttered, too many options and stuff popping up, too many things of different shapes and access points. Call me an old fogey but I was perfectly fine with a simple frigging desktop where I clicked on a folder or an icon and that was it. I don't need stupid "apps" that make my desktop look like an iPhone.

Anyways, I just went into Privacy and basically went down the list and clicked every single selection to "Off". Not sure what else or where else I have to go in this thing to make it more secure but that's a start. No big deal, though, since I only surf for porn while on my iPhone using a private browser.

Make sure beyond privacy that you visit your updating options, go to 'updates from more than one place' and choose 'pc's on my local network' over sending updates OUT to the internet using your bandwidth.

Then visit your wi fi settings and turn off wi fi sense

There are a couple of things you’ll need to do. First, on your Windows 10 computer, open the PC’s Settings and then click Network and Internet followed by Wi-Fi. Under Manage Wi-Fi, disable all of Wi-Fi Sense’s features.

Next, you’ll have to protect your home Wi-Fi network and ensure that other users with Wi-Fi Sense cannot connect to it. In order to do this, you’ll have to rename your network’s SSID so that it ends with “_optout.” So, for example, if your network’s name right now is “MyISPstinkz,” you’ll have to rename it to “MyISPstinkz_optout.”

[JD10367]

Thanks. Done.

[DaFace]

Here's a pretty level headed discussion of all the privacy settings if anyone's looking for a walk through.

http://lifehacker.com/what-windows-1...lly-1722267229

[hometeam]

[hometeam]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Here's a pretty level headed discussion of all the privacy settings if anyone's looking for a walk through.

http://lifehacker.com/what-windows-1...lly-1722267229

I dunno it basically says the same thing is everyone else.

Turn everything off, but hey guys, if microsoft isnt misrepresenting in ANY WAY what it can do with your data, will never be breached, or called upon against you by a government agency to give up information on you, then you get cool features like voice recognition that where already available in totally non-intrusive ways prior to this!