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Old 07-16-2015, 08:58 AM  
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What do the Chiefs do w/ the extra cap space?

The Chiefs supposedly gain about $4-5M in cap space w/ the Justin Houston contract extension.

What do the Chiefs do w/ that extra cap allowance?
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Old 07-16-2015, 09:42 AM   #16
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Old 07-16-2015, 09:43 AM   #17
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Old 07-16-2015, 09:44 AM   #18
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Old 07-16-2015, 09:45 AM   #19
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Depends on the trade candidate.

If it were a young cornerstone type player, with the guus coming off the board soon, maybe.
And that's fine as well. Be opportunistic with it - but not overly aggressive.
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Old 07-16-2015, 09:53 AM   #20
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Old 07-16-2015, 09:57 AM   #22
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Trade for Mychal Kendricks and then roll that money over for next season.
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Old 07-16-2015, 10:01 AM   #23
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And that's fine as well. Be opportunistic with it - but not overly aggressive.
I think that's why we avoided trading for Kendricks. He would have needed a new deal the following season.

I think it would have been nifty to simply trade for Kendricks then let DJ walk and give the money that we've normally been allocating to him the past 5 seasons over to Kendricks, but obviously Dorsey didn't see it that way, or he didn't view Kendricks as someone worth spending that amount of money to do the quality of work that DJ has done for many seasons.
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Old 07-16-2015, 10:06 AM   #24
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Trade for Mychal Kendricks and then roll that money over for next season.
I just don't feel like cap money was the impediment to a Kendricks deal.

Don't you think they'd have found a way to make it work if they'd have been able to reach an agreement on compensation with Philly? There's still the NFI option for Berry if it came to that.

Kendricks only has a base salary of $900K. Any signing bonus goes on Philly's cap. Cutting Zombo, McCray or JMJ would've freed up enough to fit Kendricks in and one of those guys would be going anyway due to roster constraints.

Kendricks isn't a money issue and I don't think not having him signed to an extension would keep the Chiefs from making a deal either; afterall, there's plenty of time and if he costs you a 3rd, well that's not cost prohibitive for a guy that would be a perfect scheme fit in a year where the Chiefs are possibly ready to take a leap forward this season.
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I think that's why we avoided trading for Kendricks. He would have needed a new deal the following season.

I think it would have been nifty to simply trade for Kendricks then let DJ walk and give the money that we've normally been allocating to him the past 5 seasons over to Kendricks, but obviously Dorsey didn't see it that way, or he didn't view Kendricks as someone worth spending that amount of money to do the quality of work that DJ has done for many seasons.
Also a possibility - the Chiefs may just feel he's not quite as good a fit as I thought.

Like I said - there are non-monetary reasons that he's not in KC, IMO.
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I just don't feel like cap money was the impediment to a Kendricks deal.

Don't you think they'd have found a way to make it work if they'd have been able to reach an agreement on compensation with Philly? There's still the NFI option for Berry if it came to that.

Kendricks only has a base salary of $900K. Any signing bonus goes on Philly's cap. Cutting Zombo, McCray or JMJ would've freed up enough to fit Kendricks in and one of those guys would be going anyway due to roster constraints.

Kendricks isn't a money issue and I don't think not having him signed to an extension would keep the Chiefs from making a deal either; afterall, there's plenty of time and if he costs you a 3rd, well that's not cost prohibitive for a guy that would be a perfect scheme fit in a year where the Chiefs are possibly ready to take a leap forward this season.
Well he is on the last year of his deal. Maybe they want to sign him to a new deal after they trade for him.
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Old 07-16-2015, 10:08 AM   #27
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I just don't feel like cap money was the impediment to a Kendricks deal.

Don't you think they'd have found a way to make it work if they'd have been able to reach an agreement on compensation with Philly? There's still the NFI option for Berry if it came to that.

Kendricks only has a base salary of $900K. Any signing bonus goes on Philly's cap. Cutting Zombo, McCray or JMJ would've freed up enough to fit Kendricks in and one of those guys would be going anyway due to roster constraints.

Kendricks isn't a money issue and I don't think not having him signed to an extension would keep the Chiefs from making a deal either; afterall, there's plenty of time and if he costs you a 3rd, well that's not cost prohibitive for a guy that would be a perfect scheme fit in a year where the Chiefs are possibly ready to take a leap forward this season.
Considering their recent success with 3rd round picks, as a fan, i'd be hesitant to give it up. Superstitious reasons is all.
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Now that I think about it, we have the potential to make a killing with a few of these veterans approaching the ends of their contracts provided they're in good enough shape to be worth keeping around.

DJ
DeVito
Eric Berry (less likely, but still hopeful)
Hali (appears to be more at the end of his career than the other guys)

DeVito is already taking a paycut, and if he's not dead and wants to continue playing, it seems like he'll play here for chump change.

Derrick Johnson may be more expensive, but again, if he's not dead from his injury and can still game, a short term deal worth less per year than his extension signed awhile ago appears to be a great option for the team.

Hali's in the same boat as DeVito, though I think if he doesn't see a resurgence this year from his 2014 season, we might have to give him a gold watch, a handshake, and a bus ticket out of town.

If we can squeeze extra playing life out of any of those guys, I think we'll get some great value.
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Now that I think about it, we have the potential to make a killing with a few of these veterans approaching the ends of their contracts provided they're in good enough shape to be worth keeping around.

DJ
DeVito
Eric Berry (less likely, but still hopeful)
Hali (appears to be more at the end of his career than the other guys)

DeVito is already taking a paycut, and if he's not dead and wants to continue playing, it seems like he'll play here for chump change.

Derrick Johnson may be more expensive, but again, if he's not dead from his injury and can still game, a short term deal worth less per year than his extension signed awhile ago appears to be a great option for the team.

Hali's in the same boat as DeVito, though I think if he doesn't see a resurgence this year from his 2014 season, we might have to give him a gold watch, a handshake, and a bus ticket out of town.

If we can squeeze extra playing life out of any of those guys, I think we'll get some great value.
I just have to think that most of these veteran players see how it works out for guys on the decline when they leave the team they're on. The adjustment is usually just too much for a guy to make while also dealing with declining skills.

Now if you're DJ and you get a chance for one last payday, sure - you take it. Maybe Hali could find himself in a similar spot with a bounceback season but I think we saw the wheels wobbling big time last year and I wouldn't be shocked if he fell of a cliff this season. DeVito may play a style of game where he can hang on a little bit longer, but these young O-lineman are getting bigger, stronger and quicker each year. Unless they 2-gap with him, he's probably going to run into some struggles as well.

Berry was overpaid when he didn't have cancer, IMO. I'm done trying to figure out ways to come up with $10 million a season for a box safety. I loved the Berry pick and think he's a great person. I also think he's become slightly overrated as a player and he's not someone worth leveraging your cap over. Some team will pay him big money and I'm inclined to let them do it.
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I just don't feel like cap money was the impediment to a Kendricks deal.

Don't you think they'd have found a way to make it work if they'd have been able to reach an agreement on compensation with Philly? There's still the NFI option for Berry if it came to that.

Kendricks only has a base salary of $900K. Any signing bonus goes on Philly's cap. Cutting Zombo, McCray or JMJ would've freed up enough to fit Kendricks in and one of those guys would be going anyway due to roster constraints.

Kendricks isn't a money issue and I don't think not having him signed to an extension would keep the Chiefs from making a deal either; afterall, there's plenty of time and if he costs you a 3rd, well that's not cost prohibitive for a guy that would be a perfect scheme fit in a year where the Chiefs are possibly ready to take a leap forward this season.
Or the Eagles were wanting a 2nd rounder.
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