Chiefs Let's talk about the Seahawks. - Page 2

Direckshun · 11-10-2014, 10:28 AM

We are so close, and yet so very, very far. It's hard to think that the Chiefs still have mountains to climb, seeing as we're the #1 Wild Card team right now, but keep this in mind:

We've only won 6 games, and
Of the remaining 7 games on the schedule, five of them are murderer's row.

So that means, for the Chiefs to even have a fair chance at a playoff spot (9 wins), they need to win ONE of those immensely difficult games. In order to have an excellent chance at a playoff spot (10 wins), they'll need to win TWO.

Of those five games, few are more daunting than the game we have lined up this week at home against the Seattle Seahawks.

We know they are insanely talented on both offense and defense. But the biggest reason this is going to be a very difficult game: they just beat the Giants by rushing for 350 yards.

350.

yards.

rushing.

That is an actual thing that happened. Now factor in the fact that the Chiefs (a.) like to go into subpackages three-quarters of the game and (b.) are generally a lousy team against the run, and it's clear that this week is an uphill battle.

At least it's at home.

The heart and soul of everything the Seahawks do is Russell Wilson. There are few non-AFCW QBs we know better than Wilson on ChiefsPlanet. We know he's super athletic. He's extremely smart. He's tough and unshakeable. And he's got a fantastic arm that is very accurate. Wilson, however, is also extremely difficult to get to -- his OL is pedestrian, but his movement in the pocket is ballet-like, he always keeps his feet moving and can elude pressure better than every other QB in the league. He is the best in the NFL at eluding pressure. There is nobody better.

We're also familiar, are we not, with Mr. Marshawn Lynch. The Chiefs need to start Vickerson on the DL, and play Mays at ILB, because if we don't, Seahawks' OL and Lynch himself will chew us the **** up. I honestly don't know how we stop the Seahawks run game, but that's why I keep you guys around, right? The Seahawks have really good RBs in backup roles. Robert Turbin is basically a poor man's Marshawn Lynch himself, and Christine Michael is a terrific athlete. The run game is monstrous, and it's everything Seattle does brilliantly.

At WR, they are mercifully less imposing. They've released Percy Harvin, but they've got four good B-listers in Doug Baldwin, Jermaine Kearse, Paul Richardson, and Ricardo Lockette. None of these guys is "take over the game" great. But all of them are shifty route runners, and Wilson's movement in the pocket always buys them time. Zach Miller is another B-lister talent at TE, another guy who will make you pay on a few downs if you aren't on top of him.

The offensive line is strong on the left side. Russell Okung is an excellent LT when he's healthy, and James Carpenter is a former 1st rounder who's found a good home at guard. Max Unger is a tough center. I'm not crazy about their talent on the right side of the line: JR Sweazy and Justin Britt have been beat like drums a few times this year. Britt himself is a rookie at right tackle. Many Mizzou fans here know him very well, and he gets to line up for 60 snaps across from Justin ****ing Houston.

So that is an imposing offense that provides many riddles for the Chiefs defense.

As for the Chiefs offense, most notably, the Chiefs offensive line, well the hits just keep on coming.

After wrestling with the Rams, Jets, and Bills defensive lines, now they get a Super Bowl winning defensive line that ONCE AGAIN creates an unfair amount of pressure. Welcome to the NFL.

It's not quite what it was with Gus Bradley running the show, but it's pretty ****ing close. Michael Bennett and Cliff Avril with Bruce Irvin at OLB is as lethal a set of edgerushers as the Chiefs will face all year. The first two in particular are capable of putting up multi-sack games, and Irvin is capable of being a terror off the edge. Up the gut, Brandon Mebane has been a revelation over the past several years, and while he's a step down from Marcell Dareus and Kyle Williams (thank the lord), he's still a block of granite on running downs. They also start Tony McDaniel, who does a solid job, and they have Kevin Williams backing them up at DT -- yes, the Kevin Williams you're thinking of.

It gets worse, because the second level of the defense is very stout as well. I've already mentioned Irvin, but K.J. Wright and Malcolm Smith came up huge in the Super Bowl (Smith won MVP). Bobby Wagner at MLB is a reliable player as well.

And of course, the Seahawks have the NFL's best secondary. I hope you guys all had fun watching Bowe this week, because he's gone this week. Richard Sherman is a Top Three corner, and specializes on large, physical WRs like Bowe. You can bet that Sherman will read those back-shoulder throws and make Alex Smith pay if he tries that shit on him.

The good news is the rest of the CBs on Seahawks roster can be passed on, SO IT WOULD BE REALLY AWESOME IF DONNIE AVERY MAGICALLY HEALED THIS WEEK. Byron Maxwell, Tharold Simon, Marcus Burley... these are not people the Chiefs need to gameplan around.

Of course, the reason the Seahawks have the best secondary in the league is because they have the best safety duo in the NFL. Kam Chancellor is a 230 lbs punishing strong safety, and while he isn't a world beater in coverage, he can blow up run games. And Earl Thomas is the best safety in the NFL -- he's an elite, 4.3 speed deep single high safety who takes away the deep game. Not that he needs it against Alex Smith.

It is crazy how far this Chiefs team has come. But there is no doubt that it has a long, long way to go. This Seahawks game is going to be as stiff as challenges get.

ToxSocks · 11-10-2014, 10:56 AM

I was far more worried about this game a few weeks ago.

Hali and Houston are going to have to tame themselves and prepare for the read option, which obviously hampers our pass rush. IIRC, Hali has been pretty good at defending the read option the few times it was run against us in the past.

Lynch is obviously worrisome. Not sure how we're gonna tackle that guy.

Chiefs are gonna have to play keep away again.

And im honestly not all that worried about the Bowe/Sherman matchup.

O.city · 11-10-2014, 10:59 AM

Previously bowe was eaten up by good corners. Look at his games this year against good corners.

He's absolutely playing at a high level this year and I don't think they need to let him walk this year.

Big Poppa Payne · 11-10-2014, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon

The only thing you need to know about the Seahawks is that they are going to kick our ass

I feel like if we score more points than them we will win

**Easy 6** · 11-10-2014, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

And im honestly not all that worried about the Bowe/Sherman matchup.

Why not?

Bowe cant outrun him and he cant outphysical him... Sherman seems like the perfect corner for a guy like Bowe IMO.

**Mav** · 11-10-2014, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

Why not?

Bowe cant outrun him and he cant outphysical him... Sherman seems like the perfect corner for a guy like Bowe IMO.

they move bowe around a lot, and Sherman doesn't move.

**Easy 6** · 11-10-2014, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mav

they move bowe around a lot, and Sherman doesn't move.

Thats definitely our best bet.

OldSchool · 11-10-2014, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

Why not?

Bowe cant outrun him and he cant outphysical him... Sherman seems like the perfect corner for a guy like Bowe IMO.

Agreed, Sherman is going to be on Bowe all day long. I have a feeling that this is the game where Kelce and DAT really break out.

The only concern with Kelce is that Seattle has some of the best coverage LBs in the league and if Chancellor is playing, can Kelce take the hits or can Smith help him avoid taking them?

Mebane may be out of this one, he injured his hammy last week, so I fully expect Reid to run it down their throats as they will be missing their best run stuffer up front.

OldSchool · 11-10-2014, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mav

they move bowe around a lot, and Sherman doesn't move.

You haven't seen the Seahawks enough this year then. Sherman has been following the true #1 receivers for much of the year. Go catch the Dallas game, he was matched up against Bryant pretty much all game no matter where Bryant lined up.

I fully expect Sherman to follow Bowe around or be matched up against Kelce on some occasions as they are our only real threats in the passing game.

Fritz88 · 11-10-2014, 11:06 AM

We suck against the run.
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Direckshun · 11-10-2014, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mav

they move bowe around a lot, and Sherman doesn't move.

Ahhhhhhhh. I forgot that!

And he struggles with speedsters.

Hell, just put Hemingway out there. Sherman can help us by eliminating him from Smith's reads.

mikey23545 · 11-10-2014, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Frosty

Also, the Seahawks have had a hard time getting pressure on the QB this year, at least compared to last year. They also aren't very good against the run, especially on the road. The thing I worry about most is stopping Wilson's runs. He tore the Giants up yesterday.

Seahawks are 30th in the NFL in sacks.

Marcellus · 11-10-2014, 11:11 AM

Seahawks are at the bottom of the league in QB pressures and sacks. They aren't getting to the QB which bodes well for our keep away game.

Smith may have his best game of the season next week.

BlackOp · 11-10-2014, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Seahawks are at the bottom of the league in QB pressures and sacks. They aren't getting to the QB which bodes well for our keep away game.

Smith may have his best game of the season next week.

KC just faced the best defensive front I've seen in a long time....on the road. Arrowhead will be loud this game...Lynch will be the man to stop. If Smith has another second to drop back..KC will dink them.

jonzie04 · 11-10-2014, 11:17 AM

They have been "exposed " this year. The legion of boom isnt so scary without the beastly pass rush they had last year. Im feeling good about this match up much like the pats game I think this team is going to bring its absolute best at home and so will the crowd.

It is going to be a bitch stopping lynch though. Fugg it id play 8 in the box until russel proves he can beat us through the air, which he certainly cannot do, so long as we get interior pressure.

jonzie04 · 11-10-2014, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Seahawks are at the bottom of the league in QB pressures and sacks. They aren't getting to the QB which bodes well for our keep away game.

Smith may have his best game of the season next week.

They get pretty good pressure from the outside in the few games i watched. But they arent getting any interior pressure at all.

11-10-2014, 10:28 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4183447	Let's talk about the Seahawks. We are so close, and yet so very, very far. It's hard to think that the Chiefs still have mountains to climb, seeing as we're the #1 Wild Card team right now, but keep this in mind: We've only won 6 games, and Of the remaining 7 games on the schedule, five of them are murderer's row. So that means, for the Chiefs to even have a fair chance at a playoff spot (9 wins), they need to win ONE of those immensely difficult games. In order to have an excellent chance at a playoff spot (10 wins), they'll need to win TWO. Of those five games, few are more daunting than the game we have lined up this week at home against the Seattle Seahawks. We know they are insanely talented on both offense and defense. But the biggest reason this is going to be a very difficult game: they just beat the Giants by rushing for 350 yards. 350. yards. rushing. That is an actual thing that happened. Now factor in the fact that the Chiefs (a.) like to go into subpackages three-quarters of the game and (b.) are generally a lousy team against the run, and it's clear that this week is an uphill battle. At least it's at home. The heart and soul of everything the Seahawks do is Russell Wilson. There are few non-AFCW QBs we know better than Wilson on ChiefsPlanet. We know he's super athletic. He's extremely smart. He's tough and unshakeable. And he's got a fantastic arm that is very accurate. Wilson, however, is also extremely difficult to get to -- his OL is pedestrian, but his movement in the pocket is ballet-like, he always keeps his feet moving and can elude pressure better than every other QB in the league. He is the best in the NFL at eluding pressure. There is nobody better. We're also familiar, are we not, with Mr. Marshawn Lynch. The Chiefs need to start Vickerson on the DL, and play Mays at ILB, because if we don't, Seahawks' OL and Lynch himself will chew us the ** up. I honestly don't know how we stop the Seahawks run game, but that's why I keep you guys around, right? The Seahawks have really good RBs in backup roles. Robert Turbin is basically a poor man's Marshawn Lynch himself, and Christine Michael is a terrific athlete. The run game is monstrous, and it's everything Seattle does brilliantly. At WR, they are mercifully less imposing. They've released Percy Harvin, but they've got four good B-listers in Doug Baldwin, Jermaine Kearse, Paul Richardson, and Ricardo Lockette. None of these guys is "take over the game" great. But all of them are shifty route runners, and Wilson's movement in the pocket always buys them time. Zach Miller is another B-lister talent at TE, another guy who will make you pay on a few downs if you aren't on top of him. The offensive line is strong on the left side. Russell Okung is an excellent LT when he's healthy, and James Carpenter is a former 1st rounder who's found a good home at guard. Max Unger is a tough center. I'm not crazy about their talent on the right side of the line: JR Sweazy and Justin Britt have been beat like drums a few times this year. Britt himself is a rookie at right tackle. Many Mizzou fans here know him very well, and he gets to line up for 60 snaps across from Justin ing Houston. So that is an imposing offense that provides many riddles for the Chiefs defense. As for the Chiefs offense, most notably, the Chiefs offensive line, well the hits just keep on coming. After wrestling with the Rams, Jets, and Bills defensive lines, now they get a Super Bowl winning defensive line that ONCE AGAIN creates an unfair amount of pressure. Welcome to the NFL. It's not quite what it was with Gus Bradley running the show, but it's pretty **ing close. Michael Bennett and Cliff Avril with Bruce Irvin at OLB is as lethal a set of edgerushers as the Chiefs will face all year. The first two in particular are capable of putting up multi-sack games, and Irvin is capable of being a terror off the edge. Up the gut, Brandon Mebane has been a revelation over the past several years, and while he's a step down from Marcell Dareus and Kyle Williams (thank the lord), he's still a block of granite on running downs. They also start Tony McDaniel, who does a solid job, and they have Kevin Williams backing them up at DT -- yes, the Kevin Williams you're thinking of. It gets worse, because the second level of the defense is very stout as well. I've already mentioned Irvin, but K.J. Wright and Malcolm Smith came up huge in the Super Bowl (Smith won MVP). Bobby Wagner at MLB is a reliable player as well. And of course, the Seahawks have the NFL's best secondary. I hope you guys all had fun watching Bowe this week, because he's gone this week. Richard Sherman is a Top Three corner, and specializes on large, physical WRs like Bowe. You can bet that Sherman will read those back-shoulder throws and make Alex Smith pay if he tries that shit on him. The good news is the rest of the CBs on Seahawks roster can be passed on, SO IT WOULD BE REALLY AWESOME IF DONNIE AVERY MAGICALLY HEALED THIS WEEK. Byron Maxwell, Tharold Simon, Marcus Burley... these are not people the Chiefs need to gameplan around. Of course, the reason the Seahawks have the best secondary in the league is because they have the best safety duo in the NFL. Kam Chancellor is a 230 lbs punishing strong safety, and while he isn't a world beater in coverage, he can blow up run games. And Earl Thomas is the best safety in the NFL -- he's an elite, 4.3 speed deep single high safety who takes away the deep game. Not that he needs it against Alex Smith. It is crazy how far this Chiefs team has come. But there is no doubt that it has a long, long way to go. This Seahawks game is going to be as stiff as challenges get.
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ToxSocks Needs more middle fingers Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Casino cash: $4054563	I was far more worried about this game a few weeks ago. Hali and Houston are going to have to tame themselves and prepare for the read option, which obviously hampers our pass rush. IIRC, Hali has been pretty good at defending the read option the few times it was run against us in the past. Lynch is obviously worrisome. Not sure how we're gonna tackle that guy. Chiefs are gonna have to play keep away again. And im honestly not all that worried about the Bowe/Sherman matchup. __________________ Life is like a dick. Sometimes it gets hard for no reason, but it can't stay hard forever.
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2504064	Previously bowe was eaten up by good corners. Look at his games this year against good corners. He's absolutely playing at a high level this year and I don't think they need to let him walk this year.
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Marcellus Diablo Negro Join Date: Sep 2003 Casino cash: $2822662	Seahawks are at the bottom of the league in QB pressures and sacks. They aren't getting to the QB which bodes well for our keep away game. Smith may have his best game of the season next week.
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jonzie04 MVP Join Date: Feb 2014 Casino cash: $5766817	They have been "exposed " this year. The legion of boom isnt so scary without the beastly pass rush they had last year. Im feeling good about this match up much like the pats game I think this team is going to bring its absolute best at home and so will the crowd. It is going to be a bitch stopping lynch though. Fugg it id play 8 in the box until russel proves he can beat us through the air, which he certainly cannot do, so long as we get interior pressure.
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