Chiefs Chiefs right to pass on DeSean Jackson - Page 2

Stryker · 03-31-2014, 07:10 AM

From a purely football standpoint, the Kansas City Chiefs couldn't have found a better wide receiver for their balky passing game than DeSean Jackson. He definitely would have provided life to a group of wide receivers that was last in the NFL in 2013 in targets, catches and yardage.

Since 2008 Jackson has 21 touchdowns of 30 or more yards and was third in average yards per catch at 17.2 for the Philadelphia Eagles, who released him last week. Add in the fact Jackson thrived for the first five seasons of his NFL career playing for Andy Reid, now coaching the Chiefs, and Jackson coming to Kansas City seemed to make a lot of sense. But the Chiefs will look elsewhere, probably to the draft, for that receiving help. After making some initial inquiries into Jackson's availability, the Chiefs backed off, reportedly because of cost concerns.

The Chiefs, who have about $4.5 million of remaining cap space, could have found a way to squeeze Jackson's salary under their limit. But at what cost? The Chiefs would like to re-sign quarterback Alex Smith and linebacker Justin Houston before they can become free agents next year. Neither will come at a favorable price. Safety Eric Berry is among the players who could become an unrestricted free agent in 2016 and he too will be expensive.

Signing Jackson at top dollar would have cost them one of those players and perhaps more. But there's something else at work here. Adding Jackson would have smelled of panic. It would have been a sign the Chiefs were veering away from their plan, making it up on the fly. You can argue the merits of their plan, but Reid and general manager John Dorsey prefer to find their stars, the players they build the foundation around, through the draft and not as free agents.

Listen closely to what Reid said recently about free agency.

"Listen, I'm not a huge free-agency guy," Reid said last week at the NFL meetings in Orlando, Fla. "I don't think you build a team that way. I think you build it through a draft. There are so many elements that go into a player actually fitting into your program and being successful, that if you get them right when they're peaking in that system and then you disrupt that and move them on to another system, that can be tough. So, the percentage has dropped, the success rate has dropped. I think you spot a guy here or there.

"Then you have the other element that it has the chance to disrupt your locker room. This guy has been with me for 10 years and is making X amount and then all of the sudden you bring in a free agent who might be as good, but maybe not as good, and you're paying him way up here and all of the sudden you have this rift that goes on in the locker room. I think you have to be real, real careful on who you bring in and how you do it.”

Adding Jackson at something less than a premium price might have made sense. The Chiefs wouldn't need to guess about projecting how Jackson might do in Reid's system. They could look at his production from those five seasons they were together with the Eagles.

But the Chiefs made their decision, for better or for worse, about a high-priced wide receiver last year when they re-signed Dwayne Bowe for five years and $56 million. That's about all a team can reasonably afford without gutting another part of the roster.

That's not to say a move of this nature would always be a bad move for the Chiefs. When their salary cap is in better shape and the signing of a big-money player like Jackson might reasonably put the Chiefs in the Super Bowl, they should go for it, by all means.

And there will be a time and place. But this wasn't it.

http://espn.go.com/blog/kansas-city-...ass-on-jackson

T-post Tom · 03-31-2014, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

... That COULD be minimized with a LARGE SIGNING BONUS but the Hunts dont believe in that. Same old Chiefs sighting cost rather than finding a way.

Total BS. Might want to hit the decaf pot...

Signing Bonuses

1. Dwayne Bowe -- $15,000,000
2. Tamba Hali -- $14,823,530
3. Eric Fischer -- $14,518,544
4. Brandon Flowers -- $10,000,000
5. Sean Smith -- $ 6,750,000
6. Dontari Poe -- $ 6,672,730

**loochy** · 03-31-2014, 08:18 AM

Yeah, I didn't want to take home that incredibly hot chick anyway. She was crazy and bitchy so I'm better off without that.

Marcellus · 03-31-2014, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom

Total BS. Might want to hit the decaf pot...

Signing Bonuses

1. Dwayne Bowe -- $15,000,000
2. Tamba Hali -- $14,823,530
3. Eric Fischer -- $14,518,544
4. Brandon Flowers -- $10,000,000
5. Sean Smith -- $ 6,750,000
6. Dontari Poe -- $ 6,672,730

It doesn't fit the narrative therefore it will be ignored.

Halfcan · 03-31-2014, 08:30 AM

Typical Chiefs. Word leaks they are one of the first teams to call, fans get excited, then the reports about building through the draft ect.

TEX · 03-31-2014, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom

Total BS. Might want to hit the decaf pot...

Signing Bonuses

1. Dwayne Bowe -- $15,000,000
2. Tamba Hali -- $14,823,530
3. Eric Fischer -- $14,518,544
4. Brandon Flowers -- $10,000,000
5. Sean Smith -- $ 6,750,000
6. Dontari Poe -- $ 6,672,730

Lets play... The context I was discussing was FREE AGENTS. Name all the FREE AGENTS on the Chiefs whose contract includes a large signing bonus?

Mention Bowe and be sure to mention ALL contract parameters and you might realize something...

Learn anything? You ought to not take people out of context before you open your mouth. like my coffee how it is. How do you like your crow?

htismaqe · 03-31-2014, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Katipan

Why are the people that see no hope for joy still Chiefs fans?

This place.

It's true. I've been here for 12 years, I was one of the first 3 or 4 members.

I'm WAY more attached to Chiefsplanet than I am to the Chiefs. In fact, for a time last spring/early summer, I went 5 or 6 weeks without any football at all. No CP, no Chiefs, no NFLN, nothing.

Katipan · 03-31-2014, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

This place.

It's true. I've been here for 12 years, I was one of the first 3 or 4 members.

I'm WAY more attached to Chiefsplanet than I am to the Chiefs. In fact, for a time last spring/early summer, I went 5 or 6 weeks without any football at all. No CP, no Chiefs, no NFLN, nothing.

That is a very sweet reason to become a football masochist. And makes alot of sense.

Just happy you're getting something from it. I get highs and lows and cute clothes.

TEX · 03-31-2014, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

It doesn't fit the narrative therefore it will be ignored.

Ignored? The "narrative" was FREE AGENTS. Totally different subject. You do understand that, right?

htismaqe · 03-31-2014, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Katipan

That is a very sweet reason to become a football masochist. And makes alot of sense.

Just happy you're getting something from it. I get highs and lows and cute clothes.

I'm not a masochist because the Chiefs don't make me feel pain. I don't really feel anything at all actually, until the games come on. And even then, when they lose, I can laugh about it...

TEX · 03-31-2014, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

Typical Chiefs. Word leaks they are one of the first teams to call, fans get excited, then the reports about building through the draft ect.

Exactly. When its time to "play big" this is what ALWAYS happens.

Marcellus · 03-31-2014, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Ignored? The "narrative" was FREE AGENTS. Totally different subject. You do understand that, right?

Why do they have to spend $$ on free agency to justify anything?

Why is that so important to you?

Spend the $ on your own players and build through the draft, thats been the mantra for some time.

**BigMeatballDave** · 03-31-2014, 08:40 AM

I would have loved it if they could have signed Jackson.

I also understand that they just gave Bowe $15m a yr ago. That would be a lot of cash spent on 2 WRs.

Marcellus · 03-31-2014, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I'm not a masochist because the Chiefs don't make me feel pain. I don't really feel anything at all actually, until the games come on. And even then, when they lose, I can laugh about it...

For someone who doesn't care you certainly spend a ton of time complaining about them.

htismaqe · 03-31-2014, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Why do they have to spend $$ on free agency to justify anything?

Why is that so important to you?

Spend the $ on your own players and build through the draft, thats been the mantra for some time.

It's the mantra until it comes time to trade away picks for Alex Smith and then it's suddenly swept under the rug...

htismaqe · 03-31-2014, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

For someone who doesn't care you certainly spend a ton of time complaining about them.

First of all, you didn't even bother to read my post.

Second of all, it's hilariously stupid that you continue to call it complaining. Everything I say is matter-of-fact.

I get it, you have an emotional attachment to the team. That's why you have to vehemently defend every ****ing stupid move they make.

I don't care. I'm just saying it like I see it. Get over it.

03-31-2014, 07:10 AM
Stryker In Mahomes I trust! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Casino cash: $2094636	Chiefs right to pass on DeSean Jackson From a purely football standpoint, the Kansas City Chiefs couldn't have found a better wide receiver for their balky passing game than DeSean Jackson. He definitely would have provided life to a group of wide receivers that was last in the NFL in 2013 in targets, catches and yardage. Since 2008 Jackson has 21 touchdowns of 30 or more yards and was third in average yards per catch at 17.2 for the Philadelphia Eagles, who released him last week. Add in the fact Jackson thrived for the first five seasons of his NFL career playing for Andy Reid, now coaching the Chiefs, and Jackson coming to Kansas City seemed to make a lot of sense. But the Chiefs will look elsewhere, probably to the draft, for that receiving help. After making some initial inquiries into Jackson's availability, the Chiefs backed off, reportedly because of cost concerns. The Chiefs, who have about $4.5 million of remaining cap space, could have found a way to squeeze Jackson's salary under their limit. But at what cost? The Chiefs would like to re-sign quarterback Alex Smith and linebacker Justin Houston before they can become free agents next year. Neither will come at a favorable price. Safety Eric Berry is among the players who could become an unrestricted free agent in 2016 and he too will be expensive. Signing Jackson at top dollar would have cost them one of those players and perhaps more. But there's something else at work here. Adding Jackson would have smelled of panic. It would have been a sign the Chiefs were veering away from their plan, making it up on the fly. You can argue the merits of their plan, but Reid and general manager John Dorsey prefer to find their stars, the players they build the foundation around, through the draft and not as free agents. Listen closely to what Reid said recently about free agency. "Listen, I'm not a huge free-agency guy," Reid said last week at the NFL meetings in Orlando, Fla. "I don't think you build a team that way. I think you build it through a draft. There are so many elements that go into a player actually fitting into your program and being successful, that if you get them right when they're peaking in that system and then you disrupt that and move them on to another system, that can be tough. So, the percentage has dropped, the success rate has dropped. I think you spot a guy here or there. "Then you have the other element that it has the chance to disrupt your locker room. This guy has been with me for 10 years and is making X amount and then all of the sudden you bring in a free agent who might be as good, but maybe not as good, and you're paying him way up here and all of the sudden you have this rift that goes on in the locker room. I think you have to be real, real careful on who you bring in and how you do it.” Adding Jackson at something less than a premium price might have made sense. The Chiefs wouldn't need to guess about projecting how Jackson might do in Reid's system. They could look at his production from those five seasons they were together with the Eagles. But the Chiefs made their decision, for better or for worse, about a high-priced wide receiver last year when they re-signed Dwayne Bowe for five years and $56 million. That's about all a team can reasonably afford without gutting another part of the roster. That's not to say a move of this nature would always be a bad move for the Chiefs. When their salary cap is in better shape and the signing of a big-money player like Jackson might reasonably put the Chiefs in the Super Bowl, they should go for it, by all means. And there will be a time and place. But this wasn't it. http://espn.go.com/blog/kansas-city-...ass-on-jackson
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03-31-2014, 08:40 AM	#27
BigMeatballDave GBM 8-12-15 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Dayton, Oh. Casino cash: $10052154	I would have loved it if they could have signed Jackson. I also understand that they just gave Bowe $15m a yr ago. That would be a lot of cash spent on 2 WRs.
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