The Patriots make a mockery of the Herm Way of Football - Page 2

FloridaMan88 · 12-09-2007, 10:58 PM

The Patriots showed once again today that the belief that you have to run the ball and have a balanced offense in order to win is an ancient myth... a myth that Herm still holds onto dearly.

This is why Herm will never be a championship caliber head coach in today's NFL.. he will never accept the fact that the great teams today are built around explosive, aggressive passing games and rely on these passing games as their primary source of offense.

The Patriots had NINE freaking rushing attempts all game and just 22 yards rushing for the game. Instead they relied on an aggressive passing game, often times spreading the field with 5 wide and attacking early and often downfield (yes actually passing the ball on FIRST down... a novel concept to Herm) with big passing plays.

Remember Herm often has said you can't just go back and pass every play and win in the NFL... well tell that to the Patriots. Tell that to Green Bay, Dallas and Indy... all teams that rely heavily on the pass.

As long as Herm Edwards is the coach of the Chiefs, this team will continue to be stale, out of date and never a serious contender in today's NFL.

el borracho · 12-09-2007, 11:15 PM

When did Herm ever say that he didn't want a QB like Brady or Mannning or Romo? When did Herm ever say that he didn't want a playmaker at QB?

Are you just upset or is there really something wrong with you?

**doomy3** · 12-09-2007, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Minnesota is 7-6 and was destroyed by Green Bay a few weeks back. In that game you had the Packers... a pass first team, score 30+ points and shut-out the "run first" Vikings you are refering to.

Pittsburgh is a run first team that was completely destroyed by the Patriots today... again a run first team being destroyed by a pass first team.

And calling the Colts, led by Peyton Manning and that passing game a team "winning with the run" is laughable.

I'm sure none of these games went the way they did because one team was more talented than the other team. Must be the scheme.

Hootie · 12-09-2007, 11:16 PM

Well Indy runs the ball an awful lot...the Colts offense is all based off the play-action pass...and in order to run a play-action, you have to run the ball...so I guess that is laughable.

el borracho · 12-09-2007, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

Maybe Huard was the team MVP this year?

Tony Gonzalez.

Mecca · 12-09-2007, 11:16 PM

Well....I watched Herm go apeshit on Vinny some years back in NY. Vinny changed a play threw a 50 yard TD and Herm went ballistic on him.....I think that's all we need to know about Herm.

**Bowser** · 12-09-2007, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Well....I watched Herm go apeshit on Vinny some years back in NY. Vinny changed a play threw a 50 yard TD and Herm went ballistic on him.....I think that's all we need to know about Herm.

Not that I don't believe you, but do you have details or specifics of that game?

BigRock · 12-09-2007, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

This is why Herm will never be a championship caliber head coach in today's NFL.. he will never accept the fact that the great teams today are built around explosive, aggressive passing games and rely on these passing games as their primary source of offense.

Just out of curiosity, last year when the 14-2 Chargers had the #2 rushing offense and a passing attack down in the lower teens, did you start a bunch of threads saying "SEE, what you need to do is run the ball" with a bunch of blather about how that's the way the NFL is trending?

Or how about when the 2006 Pats had the 12th ranked pass offense, the 12th ranked rush offense, won 12 games, and were an eyelash from the Super Bowl? Did you start a bunch of threads saying "SEE, what you need to do is run a balanced offense" with a bunch of blather about that's how the NFL is trending?

Or how about when the Bears... oh, nevermind, that'd just be piling on.

Mecca · 12-09-2007, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Not that I don't believe you, but do you have details or specifics of that game?

It was in the middle of the game, it was just a general game situation I remember thinking I've never seen a coach be that pissed to score. Herm really thinks big plays that score quickly are bad.

Hootie · 12-09-2007, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

It was in the middle of the game, it was just a general game situation I remember thinking I've never seen a coach be that pissed to score. Herm really thinks big plays that score quickly are bad.

I highly doubt that.

Mecca · 12-09-2007, 11:23 PM

I distinctly remember seeing Vinny audible throw a long TD then come to the sideline, and he got yelled at. It was very weird.

FloridaMan88 · 12-09-2007, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho

When did Herm ever say that he didn't want a QB like Brady or Mannning or Romo? When did Herm ever say that he didn't want a playmaker at QB?

Are you just upset or is there really something wrong with you?

I go straight to the source...

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2007/11...edwards__1114/

HERM EDWARDS: He can throw it and can make all the throws. That’s what he can do. What he has to do is be a manager of the game. He has to know when to take chances and know when not to take chances and score points. That’s what the quarterback has to do.”

**KcMizzou** · 12-09-2007, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Not that I don't believe you, but do you have details or specifics of that game?

I'll say it. I don't believe him.

**Bowser** · 12-09-2007, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

I'll say it. I don't believe him.

Heh.

I'll admit it sounds just enough like there'd be no way that would happen to make me think that it actually happened, if that makes any sense.

**KcMizzou** · 12-09-2007, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Heh.

I'll admit it sounds just enough like there'd be no way that would happen to make me think that it actually happened, if that makes any sense.

Sadly, it does.

Mecca · 12-09-2007, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Heh.

I'll admit it sounds just enough like there'd be no way that would happen to make me think that it actually happened, if that makes any sense.

it's been years, I mean Vinny was still starting. I know it happened cause I saw it. And one of my friends lives in that area, he's a Bills fan. We joke about it quite often honestly, it's something that's pretty hard to forget.

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FloridaMan88 Mahomes: We Are All Witnesses Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami, FL Casino cash: $2792906	The Patriots make a mockery of the Herm Way of Football The Patriots showed once again today that the belief that you have to run the ball and have a balanced offense in order to win is an ancient myth... a myth that Herm still holds onto dearly. This is why Herm will never be a championship caliber head coach in today's NFL.. he will never accept the fact that the great teams today are built around explosive, aggressive passing games and rely on these passing games as their primary source of offense. The Patriots had NINE freaking rushing attempts all game and just 22 yards rushing for the game. Instead they relied on an aggressive passing game, often times spreading the field with 5 wide and attacking early and often downfield (yes actually passing the ball on FIRST down... a novel concept to Herm) with big passing plays. Remember Herm often has said you can't just go back and pass every play and win in the NFL... well tell that to the Patriots. Tell that to Green Bay, Dallas and Indy... all teams that rely heavily on the pass. As long as Herm Edwards is the coach of the Chiefs, this team will continue to be stale, out of date and never a serious contender in today's NFL.
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el borracho In Pat We Trust Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Albuquerque, NM Casino cash: $6019148	When did Herm ever say that he didn't want a QB like Brady or Mannning or Romo? When did Herm ever say that he didn't want a playmaker at QB? Are you just upset or is there really something wrong with you?
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Well Indy runs the ball an awful lot...the Colts offense is all based off the play-action pass...and in order to run a play-action, you have to run the ball...so I guess that is laughable.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2247050	Well....I watched Herm go apeshit on Vinny some years back in NY. Vinny changed a play threw a 50 yard TD and Herm went ballistic on him.....I think that's all we need to know about Herm.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2247050	I distinctly remember seeing Vinny audible throw a long TD then come to the sideline, and he got yelled at. It was very weird.
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