Chiefs Want to fix the offensive line next season? Stop looking to the draft - Page 2

**RealSNR** · 12-29-2014, 01:15 AM

This means you, Saccopoo.

Do you really want Andy Reid and John Dorsey to build the future of this line? Given their histories with the Packers and Eagles, these two dildos wouldn't be able to scout out a good offensive lineman if Sandra Bullock provided them with all of the protective instincts scores.

**** using high draft picks to get our guys. I'm sick and ****ing tired of investing top draft stock and getting back Jeff Allens and Jon Asamoahs. And don't tell me that Andy Reid and John Dorsey are any better at finding good linemen than Pioli. Their histories indicate otherwise.

Free agency is where it's at. Spend the money to get a halfway decent starter at LG. Use one or two middle round picks to draft some depth. Profit.

I will bump this thread every time some ****ing moron talks about depending on the draft for our 2015 offensive line. We're the Chiefs. We're not going to get a rookie who will be nails for us instantly. And that's what we need. So work around it.

Problem solved. Adequate OL achieved. Mission accomplished.

Sandy Vagina · 12-29-2014, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RobBlake

Charles would love Iupati... A+ on run blocking... 'bout B- on pass blocking

More like a C- or even D on pass blocking.. but that would still be a pass pro upgrade for KC.

Sandy Vagina · 12-29-2014, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

You know, if they drafted Alex Mack, Russell Okung, Rod Hudson, Zane Beadles and Gabe Jackson like I wanted, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

However, if you are completely satisfied with super duper free agents like Mike McGlynn, Jeff Linkenbach and their ilk, please continue to post such inane drivel.

I think there can be a meeting in the middle. Both ways to acquire OL talent are on the table. KC just needs to do their homework.. cover their bases.. and yes, even get a bit lucky in their choices.

**BossChief** · 12-29-2014, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

You know, if they drafted Alex Mack, Russell Okung, Rod Hudson, Zane Beadles and Gabe Jackson like I wanted, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

However, if you are completely satisfied with super duper free agents like Mike McGlynn, Jeff Linkenbach and their ilk, please continue to post such inane drivel.

Haha you wanted 4/5 oh those guys in the first round.

Gimme a break

Titty Meat · 12-29-2014, 10:59 AM

Orlando Franklin.

Dayze · 12-29-2014, 11:30 AM

we could probably spend draft picks on OL if we didn't trade away 2nd rounders for scrub QBs

OldSchool · 12-29-2014, 11:35 AM

Sign Clint Bolings to play LG and draft someone in the first 3 rounds to battle it out for the RG/RT positions with the guys on the roster.

Mr. Laz · 12-29-2014, 11:40 AM

You win by building through the draft /Dorsey

Hoover · 12-29-2014, 11:40 AM

I would love to plug in a good FA at guard but it's not going to cheap. Look at what Asamoah brought on the open market. Sure we missed him, but damn he was not worth what he costs, which leads me to believe that we should always be investing 3rd and 4th round picks in the o-line. Keeps us young, and lets us pay guys like Houston and Poe on defense. Since we need two guards and a RT I doubt we can fill all of our holes in FA.

**petegz28** · 12-29-2014, 11:58 AM

I have to really question WTF is with Kush? Is he not capable of moving to G? If they plan on keeping Hudson at C, and it appears they do, the WTF are you hanging onto this guy for if you aren't going to play him? If he is nothing more than a backup C to be inactive on Sunday's then cut him and move on. Otherwise get him on the line at G. Dude his huge.

OldSchool · 12-29-2014, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

I have to really question WTF is with Kush? Is he not capable of moving to G? If they plan on keeping Hudson at C, and it appears they do, the WTF are you hanging onto this guy for if you aren't going to play him? If he is nothing more than a backup C to be inactive on Sunday's then cut him and move on. Otherwise get him on the line at G. Dude his huge.

I will not be surprised if they let Hudson walk and keep Kush on. The cost of a good starting center is getting kind of ridiculous and you better believe that Hudson is going to be asking for similar compensation.

Nightfyre · 12-29-2014, 12:07 PM

Good centers are like 6MM/year. I don't think that is a ridiculous cost. Source: http://overthecap.com/position/center/

If the Chiefs want to acquire free agents, this is the year to do it as we won't be getting comp picks for anyone we let go, imo.

Eleazar · 12-29-2014, 12:12 PM

I don't want us to spend the first rounder on a lineman. We should take BPA.

However, we do need to spend multiple picks this year on offensive linemen, and probably pick up at least once serviceable vet in free agency.

The people currently on the roster need to be sent to the glue factory.

OldSchool · 12-29-2014, 12:23 PM

Hudson is currently playing at a top 5 level right now. The top 5 contracts for centers in the NFL:

Maurkice Pouncey- $44.1 mil total, $8.82 mil per year, $13 mil guaranteed
Alex Mack - $42 mil, $8.4 mil per, $18 mil guaranteed
Ryan Kalil - $49.1 mil, $8.2 mil per, $19 mil guaranteed
Nick Mangold - $54 mil, $7.725 mil per, $16 mil guaranteed
Max Unger - $25.83 mil, $6.45 mil per, $11.5 mil guaranteed

Hudson's contract extension will fall somewhere within those numbers if the team decides to keep him. I don't think they can do that if they want to keep Houston around unless they let go of some solid pieces like Bowe and Hali.

KCUnited · 12-29-2014, 12:27 PM

Let's fix the line by not re-signing the only talented lineman we have.

John Dope · 12-29-2014, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

Let's fix the line by not re-signing the only talented lineman we have.

I'd resign him but, I won't be surprised if Dorsey doesn't. He doesn't fit Reid's usual mold. If we don't resign him I'm sure there will be another 2-14 thread next August but, we'll win at least eight games. It will be OK.

12-29-2014, 01:15 AM
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petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $2244127	I have to really question WTF is with Kush? Is he not capable of moving to G? If they plan on keeping Hudson at C, and it appears they do, the WTF are you hanging onto this guy for if you aren't going to play him? If he is nothing more than a backup C to be inactive on Sunday's then cut him and move on. Otherwise get him on the line at G. Dude his huge.
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12-29-2014, 12:23 PM	#28
OldSchool MVP Join Date: Sep 2013 Casino cash: $10035212	Hudson is currently playing at a top 5 level right now. The top 5 contracts for centers in the NFL: Maurkice Pouncey- $44.1 mil total, $8.82 mil per year, $13 mil guaranteed Alex Mack - $42 mil, $8.4 mil per, $18 mil guaranteed Ryan Kalil - $49.1 mil, $8.2 mil per, $19 mil guaranteed Nick Mangold - $54 mil, $7.725 mil per, $16 mil guaranteed Max Unger - $25.83 mil, $6.45 mil per, $11.5 mil guaranteed Hudson's contract extension will fall somewhere within those numbers if the team decides to keep him. I don't think they can do that if they want to keep Houston around unless they let go of some solid pieces like Bowe and Hali.
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