Hundreds help remove anti-Semitic graffiti (guess what's to blame...) - Page 2

**Donger** · 03-09-2004, 08:57 AM

DENVER, Colorado (AP) -- About 300 people of different faiths turned out to clean up a synagogue vandalized with swastikas and Nazi symbols on the eve of the Jewish holiday Purim.

So many people showed up Sunday at BMH-BJ Congregation, where vandalism had been discovered the day before, that people had to stand in line for a turn with a brush and a can of paint thinner.

"This is a place for everyone," said Doug Mix, who is not a member of the congregation. "That is why everyone is here. There are Christians, Jews, Muslims and people who are not religious. We all came out here because America is still America, and we don't tolerate this."

A custodian for the synagogue discovered about 10 markings when he arrived Saturday morning. Purim was celebrated Saturday night and Sunday. Police had not made any arrests by Monday.

Holocaust survivor Fanny Starr saw the graffiti Saturday morning.

"I was just shaking and broke down," she said. "All the wounds, the old wounds starting open again."

Rabbi Daniel Cohen said the vandalism may have been sparked by Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ," which just finished its second weekend as the No. 1 movie in the country. The movie, which some believe wrongly blames Jews for the death of Christ, has been criticized as anti-Semitic.

Elise Zakroff said she was sure the film inspired the graffiti.

"What Mel Gibson did is terrible," Zakroff said. "It is happening all over. We are tired of anti-Semitism. All we want is peace."

Shortly after the movie opened, a Denver pastor outraged Jews and Christians with a sign outside his Lovingway United Pentecostal Church that read "Jews Killed The Lord Jesus."

He said the sign was inspired by Gibson's film and later put a sign of apology.

In 2002, anti-Semitic incidents rose 8 percent nationwide over the previous year, according to the Anti-Defamation League. Colorado had 35 anti-Semitic incidents.

Brock · 03-09-2004, 09:27 AM

Just for that, I'm going to jack up all of your credit card interest a full point.

KCWolfman · 03-09-2004, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

I agree it doesn't fuel anti-semitism on large scale just like "the basketball diaries" doesn't influence school children to kill thier classmates....but it did influence Harris and Klebold

And Judas Priest music influenced a couple of kids to kill themselves in the 80s.

The catalysts were already there in the personage of Harris and Klebold. The movie was just an excuse.

KCWolfman · 03-09-2004, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock Landers

Just for that, I'm going to jack up all of your credit card interest a full point.

LOL. That was bad.

MOhillbilly · 03-09-2004, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

and some "nazis" shot a jewish radio personality...name eludes me at the moment

Western Hammer Skins are very active in CO.

This may add some perspective,i pulled this from a trad/sharp/OGS board we get NA(Nazis) and WP shittards on here all the time trying to "recruit".
This IP and goldenhind are both NA FSU/CHS reeruns.......... all pussies in my book.
http://skinheads.net/phpBB2/viewtopi...er=asc&start=0

Just remember 99% of the people on this board are anti or non racist skins and 10-20% are of heritage other than white.

DenverChief · 03-09-2004, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman

And Judas Priest music influenced a couple of kids to kill themselves in the 80s.

The catalysts were already there in the personage of Harris and Klebold. The movie was just an excuse.

sometimes I think the ideas come from things we see or hear though

patteeu · 03-09-2004, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

I'd bet that this sign wouldn't have been created if anti-Passion forces hadn't insisted that the movie brands all jews as christ-killers. I think its clear that if we are going to blame anyone other than the actual culprits, we could start with people like Frank Rich, Abe Foxman, and DaKCMan.

*edit* Just to make it clear, I don't say this because these people are jews, but because they raised the issue (a phantom issue IMO) to such a high profile that they made it almost certain that the anti-semites among us would get energized. */edit*

**Donger** · 03-09-2004, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

sometimes I think the ideas come from things we see or hear though

Again, that's true. But, SOMETHING would have set those kids off. It just happened to be that film. Just like perhaps PotC will probably set some other wacko off.

So, the question is: Do we ban all controversial topics, books, movies, et al that could potentially set some nutjob off?

KCWolfman · 03-09-2004, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

sometimes I think the ideas come from things we see or hear though

More people were killed and injured laying on a highway after watching the James Caan football film, The Program, than those killed or injured after watching tPotC. Should all football films be banned to prevent such behavior?

If you are influenced by a movie to hurt or kill others, you are already messed up - it is not the film's fault that you are a menace.

KCTitus · 03-09-2004, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

sometimes I think the ideas come from things we see or hear though

That and lack of impulse control...

DenverChief · 03-09-2004, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger

Again, that's true. But, SOMETHING would have set those kids off. It just happened to be that film. Just like perhaps PotC will probably set some other wacko off.

So, the question is: Do we ban all controversial topics, books, movies, et al that could potentially set some nutjob off?

agreed but maybe had they watched the wall instead they would have killed thier classmates and then ground them up in a meat grinder

DenverChief · 03-09-2004, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman

More people were killed and injured laying on a highway after watching the James Caan football film, The Program, than those killed or injured after watching tPotC. Should all football films be banned to prevent such behavior?

If you are influenced by a movie to hurt or kill others, you are already messed up - it is not the film's fault that you are a menace.

I never said such a thing...I was just pointing out what I thought was obvious...that there is a correlation albeit small

DenverChief · 03-09-2004, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus

That and lack of impulse control...

anger and fear can override that "control"

**Donger** · 03-09-2004, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

agreed but maybe had they watched the wall instead they would have killed thier classmates and then ground them up in a meat grinder

Exactly. They were just plain crazy. Something else would have set them off eventually.

**Iowanian** · 03-09-2004, 09:59 AM

Yeah....an asshole with an agenda would never take advantage of the plethora of press coverage to get their message out......just Like ABC would never air the Judas movie they've sat of for years.

Some diptard, who was already a diptard took advantage of the current furor to be an asshole and get some free press.

I'll bet in reality, the movie moved MORE people to come down and clean that up than anything.

Logical · 03-09-2004, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman

What will really screw up that broad complaining is chances are that some of those 300 who helped clean up saw the film as well.

Gee your calling her a broad is a nice treatment of a holocaust survivor. Excellent way to show you respect their suffering.

03-09-2004, 08:57 AM
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