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**FRCDFED** · 02-19-2013, 09:05 AM

Mayock sees four options for Chiefs at No. 1

Posted by Mike Florio on February 19, 2013, 9:02 AM EST

APOn Monday, preeminent draft guru Mike Mayock participated in a pre-Combine conference call that lasted more than 2.5 hours. Tirelessly answering question after question, Mayock demonstrated once again a computerized recall of names and teams and needs.

With plenty of interest focused on what will happen at the top of the draft, Mayock eventually was asked to identify the players he believes to be worthy of the first overall pick, held by the Chiefs.

Mayock said there are four: Alabama guard Chance Warmack; North Carolina guard Jonathan Cooper; Texas A&M tackle Luke Joeckel; and Central Michigan tackle Eric Fisher.

Warmack is Mayock’s preference. “People will tell me I’m crazy, that a guard can’t go No. 1,” Mayock explained. “I think he’s the best player in the draft, so I would argue that.”

The list doesn’t create the kind of sizzle to which we’ve become accustomed at the top of the draft. And for good reason. There are no quarterbacks regarded as worthy of being the first overall pick this year.

Mayock realizes that the Chiefs’ needs could be influenced by their decision regarding tackle Branden Albert (who could actually move to guard if a guy like Joeckel is drafted with the first pick). Still, Chiefs coach Andy Reid learned the hard way in 2012 the importance of having a high-end offensive live. With a cluster of high-quality blockers at the top of the draft and a rookie wage scale to keep the total cost far less than what it would be to sign Albert to a long-term deal, the Chiefs could opt for the lineman whom they decide they like the most.

And then they’d hope that the rest of the teams agree with G.M. John Dorsey’s assessment that none of the quarterbacks merit a first-round selection. Which would push all of the quarterbacks to the Chiefs at the top of round two.

**FRCDFED** · 02-19-2013, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

And that right there is the problem.

There aren't really any guys in this draft, at any position, that fit that description.

There's no sure-fire, gonna-be-an-All Pro in this draft at any position.

Realistically there are two positions on our team that are in desperate need of upgrade because of Pisoli!

QB and CB

Jayhawk Chief · 02-19-2013, 09:30 AM

Dorsey says he drafts the BPA. Period.

Therefore, if he is being honest, could and would draft the guard from Alabama.

Now, I don't believe him. So, there's that.

jspchief · 02-19-2013, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Somebody yesterday confirmed that a guard has never gone #1 overall.

Leonard Davis went #2 overall in 2001. Turley #7 overall '98.

Since Davis, I don't think there's even been a guard taken in the top 20.

...except for Branden Albert

Deberg_1990 · 02-19-2013, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by FRCDFED

Realistically there are two positions on our team that are in desperate need of upgrade because of Pisoli!

QB and CB

i dont even think a CB has ever gone #1 overall??

BUt a top shutdown CB holds a million times more value than a guard.

siberian khatru · 02-19-2013, 09:33 AM

Dumb, dumb, dumb.

As Chris Meck posted on a draft thread, an 89 QB has a greater positive impact on a team than a 95 OL.

htismaqe · 02-19-2013, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Leonard Davis went #2 overall in 2001. Turley #7 overall '98.

Since Davis, I don't think there's even been a guard taken in the top 20.

...except for Branden Albert

**FRCDFED** · 02-19-2013, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk Chief

Dorsey says he drafts the BPA. Period.

Therefore, if he is being honest, could and would draft the guard from Alabama.

Now, I don't believe him. So, there's that.

I for one, hope that he does. Lock down a position for the next 5 - 7 years and then look to upgrade another position.

However, keep in mind that he shouldn't draft BPA unless that player is better than the incumbent at that position. Then you have to move on to the next BPA.

htismaqe · 02-19-2013, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

i dont even think a CB has ever gone #1 overall??

BUt a top shutdown CB holds a million times more value than a guard.

Correct. No CB has ever been taken #1 overall.

**the Talking Can** · 02-19-2013, 09:39 AM

you shouldn't be allowed to discuss football, much less get paid for it, if you even make a joke about drafting a guard at #1...

you should just be killed, buried, and forgotten...

**FRCDFED** · 02-19-2013, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Correct. No CB has ever been taken #1 overall.

Is there one in this draft that is a solid football player?

htismaqe · 02-19-2013, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by FRCDFED

Is there one in this draft that is a solid football player?

Milliner is a solid player.

But you don't draft SOLID players #1 overall.

Ace Gunner · 02-19-2013, 09:58 AM

you know this draft is weak up top when mayock calls for a OG at #1

**FRCDFED** · 02-19-2013, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Milliner is a solid player.

But you don't draft SOLID players #1 overall.

If the draft evaluators are correct regarding this draft then making sure you get a SOLID player should become the goal. I like Milliner and would welcome him in a Chiefs uniform at a position of dire need.

Xanathol · 02-19-2013, 10:01 AM

And for those that don't know, Warmack sucks in pass protection ( without wrapping up ). Mayock has gone full Kiper at this point...

Dayze · 02-19-2013, 10:01 AM

It will be Joekel, Geno, or Milliner at #1. (can't decide on Milliner though)
IMO

I just can't get my hed around a G at #1.

02-19-2013, 09:05 AM
FRCDFED Line'em up Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: somewhere out there Casino cash: $9326297	Mayock sees four options for the Chiefs at No. 1 Mayock sees four options for Chiefs at No. 1 Posted by Mike Florio on February 19, 2013, 9:02 AM EST APOn Monday, preeminent draft guru Mike Mayock participated in a pre-Combine conference call that lasted more than 2.5 hours. Tirelessly answering question after question, Mayock demonstrated once again a computerized recall of names and teams and needs. With plenty of interest focused on what will happen at the top of the draft, Mayock eventually was asked to identify the players he believes to be worthy of the first overall pick, held by the Chiefs. Mayock said there are four: Alabama guard Chance Warmack; North Carolina guard Jonathan Cooper; Texas A&M tackle Luke Joeckel; and Central Michigan tackle Eric Fisher. Warmack is Mayock’s preference. “People will tell me I’m crazy, that a guard can’t go No. 1,” Mayock explained. “I think he’s the best player in the draft, so I would argue that.” The list doesn’t create the kind of sizzle to which we’ve become accustomed at the top of the draft. And for good reason. There are no quarterbacks regarded as worthy of being the first overall pick this year. Mayock realizes that the Chiefs’ needs could be influenced by their decision regarding tackle Branden Albert (who could actually move to guard if a guy like Joeckel is drafted with the first pick). Still, Chiefs coach Andy Reid learned the hard way in 2012 the importance of having a high-end offensive live. With a cluster of high-quality blockers at the top of the draft and a rookie wage scale to keep the total cost far less than what it would be to sign Albert to a long-term deal, the Chiefs could opt for the lineman whom they decide they like the most. And then they’d hope that the rest of the teams agree with G.M. John Dorsey’s assessment that none of the quarterbacks merit a first-round selection. Which would push all of the quarterbacks to the Chiefs at the top of round two.
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