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Old 12-01-2011, 11:01 AM   #1
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Old 02-16-2012, 08:58 PM   #2
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Uh oh.....Hollywood smells a bomb. Im actually looking forward to this, but the marketing has been awful.



http://www.deadline.com/2012/02/john...f-of-all-time/


‘John Carter’ Tracking Shockingly Soft: “Could Be Biggest Writeoff Of All Time”



Hollywood is in a tizzy over the early tracking which just came online this morning for Walt Disney Studios‘ John Carter opening March 9th. “Not good. 2 unaided, 53 aware, 27 definitely interested, 3 first choice,” a senior exec at a rival studio emails me. Another writes me, ”It just came out. Women of all ages have flat out rejected the film. The tracking for John Carter is shocking for a film that cost over $250 million. This could be the biggest writeoff of all time.” I’m hearing figures in the neighborhood of $100 million. And the studio isn’t even trying to spin reports of the 3D pic’s bloated budget any more.

Now, to be fair, this very soft tracking has been expected. The studios’ private reports have shown for some time very soft awareness and very little wannasee. So what’s Disney’s explanation? “It’s the last leftover from the previous regime of Dick Cook,” an executive who works for successor Rich Ross reminds me. “We’re not running away from the movie. Our job is to sell it.” Then again, Cook also left Ross Alice In Wonderland to sell, too, along with other hits and a few misses.

Disney is nervous, really nervous, but trying to hold out some hope. ”We know that we have a long way to go. It’s still four weeks out, and the bulk of the media hasn’t hit yet. Our Super Bowl ad did what we intended it to do: have a pop of awareness. On Sunday we launch a full campaign with 90+% of all of our media ready to go.” Problem is, John Carter (formerly titled John Carter Of Mars) only has a two-week window before Lionsgate’s hotly anticipated The Hunger Games opens March 23rd.

Disney is still planning a gigantic worldwide day-and-date push for John Carter with all the frills no matter how dismal its prospects look. ”After all the movie has Andrew Stanton of Finding Nemo and Wall-E,” an insider explains to me.
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Old 02-16-2012, 09:00 PM   #3
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The marketing has been horrendous, and calling it "John Carter" instead of "John Carter of Mars" was a mistake from day 1. It's just a bland title.
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STill don't have a clue what this movie is about. The title sure doesn't tell you shit.
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STill don't have a clue what this movie is about. The title sure doesn't tell you shit.
John Carter ends up on Mars. People on Mars are in a stargate-esque battle for their freedom and lives. He's the "chosen one" or something, and is a total badass on Mars (superman effect?). He fights baddies. End of story (or at least that's what I gather from the trailer and what I've heard).

It's based on an old pulp fiction sci-fi novel (or is it comic book?) by same dude that did Tarzan.
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John Carter ends up on Mars. People on Mars are in a stargate-esque battle for their freedom and lives. He's the "chosen one" or something, and is a total badass on Mars (superman effect?). He fights baddies. End of story (or at least that's what I gather from the trailer and what I've heard).

It's based on an old pulp fiction sci-fi novel (or is it comic book?) by same dude that did Tarzan.
That right there tells me I won't like it.
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John Carter ends up on Mars. People on Mars are in a stargate-esque battle for their freedom and lives. He's the "chosen one" or something, and is a total badass on Mars (superman effect?). He fights baddies. End of story (or at least that's what I gather from the trailer and what I've heard).

It's based on an old pulp fiction sci-fi novel (or is it comic book?) by same dude that did Tarzan.
It's based on a series of books by Edgar Rice Burroughs. They are Sci Fi classics, I've read them and they are great. If Disney handled this right then they could have a movie franchise that spanned decades.

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It's based on a series of books by Edgar Rice Burroughs. They are Sci Fi classics, I've read them and they are great. If Disney handled this right then they could have a movie franchise that spanned decades.

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Yeah, I read many of these as a kid. Was really excited that it was going to make it to the big screen, but am now preparing myself for disappointment.
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STill don't have a clue what this movie is about. The title sure doesn't tell you shit.
They have done an absolutely wretched job explaining the concept and "selling" this movie. Odd considering its Disney, who usually markets very well.
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Here's a synopsis of the first book from Wikipedia. I don't know if they are using this story for the first movie:

John Carter, a Confederate veteran of the American Civil War, goes prospecting in Arizona immediately after the war's end. Having struck a rich vein of gold, he runs afoul of the Apaches. While attempting to evade pursuit by hiding in a sacred cave, he is mysteriously transported to Mars, called "Barsoom" by its inhabitants. Carter finds that he has great strength and superhuman agility in this new environment as a result of its lesser gravity. He soon falls in with the Tharks, a nomadic tribe of Green Martians, as the planet's warlike, six-limbed, green-skinned inhabitants are known. Thanks to his strength and combat abilities, Carter rises to a high position in the tribe and earns the respect and eventually the friendship of Tars Tarkas, one of the Thark chiefs.

The Tharks subsequently capture Dejah Thoris, Princess of Helium, a member of the humanoid red Martian race. The red Martians inhabit a loose network of city-states and control the desert planet's canals, along which its agriculture is concentrated. Carter rescues Dejah Thoris from the green men in a bid to return her to her people.

Subsequently Carter becomes embroiled in the political affairs of both the red and green men in his efforts to safeguard Dejah Thoris, eventually leading a horde of Tharks against the city-state of Zodanga, the historic enemy of Helium. Winning Dejah Thoris' hand, he becomes Prince of Helium, and the two live happily together for nine years.

However, the sudden breakdown of the Atmosphere Plant that sustains the planet's waning air supply endangers all life on Barsoom. In a desperate attempt to save the planet's inhabitants, Carter uses a secret telepathic code to enter the factory, bringing an engineer along who can restore its functionality. Carter then succumbs to asphyxiation, only to awaken back on Earth, left to wonder what has become of Barsoom and his beloved.
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Theres still a review embargo, but alot of the geek crowd thats seen it have been hinting that its good. Im down.
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Old 02-24-2012, 04:32 PM   #15
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Good stuff, Mr. keg in kc.

These were/are great books. ERB was kind a cross between Charles Dickens and Stan Lee. It looks like Disney is staying true to the character. I mean, Carter's powers on Mars were basically obstinance and leaping real high.

I have to admit, though, that John Carter had phenomenal good fortune. Nobody's that fortunate. He made millions and got to go to Mars. Nowadays, a guy is lucky to find a clean, public restroom.

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