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rico · 10-30-2012, 05:49 PM

http://echointhehead.blogspot.com/20....html?spref=tw

Quarterbacking:

When looking at a QB I strip away the Heisman's, MVP's, Super Bowl's...and just look at how they throw a ball. Natural talent like Peyton Manning is scattered throughout the NFL. There is nothing special about how he throws a football from point A to B...a lot of better balls came out of Jamarcus Russell's arm.

If you just watched Peyton Manning it's is not a pretty site. But there isn't a more efficient player on the move than Peyton Manning. The big key with Manning is he can get to his drops quicker than any player in the NFL even at his size. Meaning he has the ability to throw before a defense can diagnose it's a pass.

Sometimes something as simple as that can turn a rather above average QB into a great one. The elite QB's in the NFL aren't the elite talents in Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Manning...rather they are the most efficient passers in the NFL. All 4 QB's are versatile enough passers to run the style of offense they run, not based on natural talent rather touch/timing.

If you go out to the yard and toss a football from 10 yards, 20 yards, and 30 yards each throw would be different. The mechanics of those throws will be slightly different. The amount of force will be different as well. Scouting a QB is simply identifying how a QB accounts for it with ability and mechanics.

When pressed I often say that Joe Flacco is my favorite QB in the NFL. Flacco can go the furthest downfield without breaking his mechanics. From 30-40 yards Flacco can still manipulate good touch on the football...personally that control at that distance is something I appreciate over any other passer. Every QB breaks mechanics to launch a ball. It's typically where that break happens is what determines functional arm strength to me.

Stanzi:

I don't love the natural talent but I love the technique. His balance/arm efficiency/functional strength/release point all in my opinion are near elite. Stanzi has the tools to be one of the more efficient passers in the league. The issue with Stanzi goes back to that "break" in mechanics when passing.

Stanzi's mind as a QB doesn't match his skill set. Stanzi plays a power style with a efficient skill set. For me I still love the prospect but at this point his style of play will never allow him to tap into what he can actually excel in. As much as I love Stanzi as an intermediate passer, he is too aggressive and often break excellent mechanics in favor of more aggressive reads.

If anyone ask me who I wanted to start for the Chiefs it was Ricky Stanzi. I wasn't certain he was a better QB than Cassel or Quinn, but I was certain he was a more talented passer. Ultimately the amount of "passes" a QB has determines the versatility of the passing game. A team can have Jerry Rice but if the Quarterback can't beat a cover 3 then it doesn't matter...this team is capped on the amount of routes they can call due to the QB.

Daboll/Cassel:

In the preseason I stressed that Cassel looked better because of the passes he was throwing. Stanzi utilized a completely different set of reads. Stanzi's reads had a higher degree of difficulty. To me every completion or attempt isn't equal. How a QB missed the post on a cover 3 is a lot more intriguing than the QB hitting a slant vs. cover 2.

That's the key issue of the season, the reason for the collapse. Daboll and Crennel picked the wrong QB's to run this offense. They picked the guys that were attempting and hitting the easy reads in the preseason over the guy that was missing on the more aggressive reads. It's basic...if you're playbook has a bunch of deep routes, then get the QB that throws those routes.

What's happening is simple. Because we can't threaten deep teams just bracket underneath. It's a simple adjustment that the Chiefs don't have the ability to get teams out of. In my opinion Quinn nor Cassel have that ability. But that shouldn't be what is derailing this team. Long ago Daboll had to figure his player out.

Daboll was applauding Cassel with hitting Baldwin on a fade vs. cover 1...hitting the TE on a skinny post vs. cover 2. Essentially every team has taken those routes away from this offense. It comes as no shock that we aren't having success passing. The timing is not there because Cassel wasn't forced to work on the timing throughout preseason. Felt nervous that we had a coaching staff that lacked vision.

This offenses talents is suited for movement. Albert, Asomoah, Lilja, Allen, Charles, Moeaki are all suited to play in space...with a few of them being among the more athletic players at their positions in the NFL. Players that are suited to play horizontal are being forced to play vertically. Most are making the transition but our Cassel/Quinn don't have the ability to.

What has changed schematically in Kansas City is simple. We went from a team that ran on the perimeter to a team that runs in the interior. We went from a team that threw a bunch of screens, hooks, hitches, slants to one that uses more vertical routes. For the most part every facet is transitioning to the changes outside of the Quarterback.

Final Thought

Stanzi utilizes the reads that this offense is designed to use. Theoretically those vertical routes are supposed to threaten the safety. Mathematically the threat of the pass should account for an additional defender. Depending on the range of the passing game determines the depth of the secondary. Currently the passing game can't remove a defender in the run game.

Because of the lack of the vertical passing attack defenders are flooded in the intermediate zone...hence why so many deflections are being intercepted. The threat of a vertical passing game removes Chargers safety Eric Weddle and the pick on the deflection doesn't happen. Currently because of Quarterback talent this offense is unable to force that adjustment making our intermediate reads a lower percentage.

Daboll has to understand that...instead of waiting for an adjustment from defenses that won't come. He is going to have to adjust if these are his options at QB. I still believe Cassel can serve a purpose, but he can't run this offense. Daboll has to figure out a way to make his QB better or he will handcuff this team to a bad marriage of natural talent and scheme.

Change has to happen...if Daboll doesn't change he has to go...if Cassel doesn't change then the scheme has to...if the scheme doesn't change then the QB has to. The status quo is flawed and is getting in this teams way.

rico · 10-30-2012, 06:22 PM

Same dude:

"Coaching Matt Cassel"

When I was at training camp one thing I wanted to see with the Quarterbacks was specific. For Cassel I wanted to see him throwing vertically. I felt with the wide receivers we had, that it was necessary for Cassel to make his mistakes with the new scheme there. Problem was I became frustrated watching him.

He would target our slots in the flats v. man, and hit the TE up the seam/post v. Cover 2. His play had me frustrated because this year was about growth for Matt Cassel. But during camp he threw mostly the same routes he always had success with. The same slant he beat Vikings/Indy cover 2, he beat at practice. Most of the routes v. certain coverages were throws that he had always had success with.

At rare points did we work the packages and throws that Cassel has always struggled with. The timing and touch to throw a 9 route vs. man/cover 2 never got the needed reps. The offense Daboll runs requires the ability to throw vertical. So far most of the problems Cassel is having are due to him and the coaching staff taking the time and preparations to familiarize themselves with it.

The problem with being a successful running team, is that defenses will adjust to that. It takes numbers in football to run. Teams that describe themselves as running teams have to adjust their personnel accordingly. They are likely, as is the case in Kansas City to carry more TE's/FB's/RB's than teams that considering themselves passing teams.

By having more TE's/Backs they face adjustments for opposing defenses. The defense typically adds a linebacker or defensive lineman. These numbers in the run game effects the passing game, how it applies to Kansas City...

The Chiefs by bringing more numbers (defenders) in the box...the openings in the passing game become vertical. With the middle of the field covered by alignment, the natural passing lanes are in favor of the split ends. Which is in contrast to spread/horizontal passing schemes which spreads defenders across the field opening up the middle. Giving a West Coast system easier/more reads in passing game.

The traditional successful running teams like the Steelers, and Ravens have prototypes for their system. Schematically the big arm is needed more so than the more mechanical QB's in Rodgers/Brees/Peyton who depend on quickness and options. True running teams are going to be limited in their options in the passing game.

With the running teams that bring defenders up, having a big arm to back them up compliments a strong running team. That defense in theory should have to worry about run fills and getting beat vertically. Currently the Chiefs don't do that to defenses, because Cassel doesn't do that to defenses.

Cassel having a big arm would be great, but he doesn't need one. Kurt Warner built a Hall of Fame career simply by having great timing on his throws. The thing that separates Kyle Orton from Matt Cassel is timing. Timing partly attributed to playing at Purdue, but Orton threw receivers open...Cassel mostly throws to open receivers.

What made me frustrated as I left camp was the praise Daboll was putting on Cassel. Right then I saw a coach that was satisfied with a Quarterback that wasn't growing as a passer. The mistakes that are happening right now are a byproduct of that moment and moments like them.

We have an owner, GM, coaches that are satisfied with this flawed passer not growing. It's good that they want him to play better. But show it! Make Cassel throw the flag under the safety and over the corner every fricken time until he commands that throw. Make Cassel throw a post inside the free safety on cover 3 until he commands it.

Matt Cassel can drive a throw, he can throw for touch...but he isn't a passer. Steve Young once said the difference between him and Mike Vick was thousands of reps at BYU. Cassel needs to get back every rep that he lost at USC. We can't four years in have Cassel learning on the job.

Tombstone RJ · 10-30-2012, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

The fact that anyone would waste that many words about how to fix this crap, with the SAME PLAYERS AND COACHES, is mind bottling.

Just bring in a guy with a flamethrower. Simple.

It's "mind boggling" fyi

Hammock Parties · 10-30-2012, 06:24 PM

No shit? You ever heard of the god damn CP Lexicon?

bishop_74 · 10-30-2012, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

It's "mind boggling" fyi

Somebody makes a mistake years ago and it is replicated around here for years after.

rico · 10-30-2012, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

No shit? You ever heard of the god damn CP Lexicon?

I've heard it can be quite the c0ck-block.

Tombstone RJ · 10-30-2012, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

No shit? You ever heard of the god damn CP Lexicon?

**SAUTO** · 10-30-2012, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bishop_74

Somebody makes a mistake years ago and it is replicated around here for years after.

Ron Burgundy is member here?
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bishop_74 · 10-30-2012, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Ron Burgundy is member here?
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Si.

Ace Gunner · 10-30-2012, 06:38 PM

okay. Manning was bombing the Saints with great passes, making a bunch of no name receivers famous, which as far as I know of Manning, is what he always does.

Stanzi was brain farting his way through 3rd string defenses the entire pre season and his passes were not on target more often than they were it seemed to me. He had poor decisions during every outing and through a few picks, perhaps one every outing.

And I like Stanzi, liked the pick. But he is going to need at least one more pre season before he's ready.

I expect he will play this season though, so we shall see who is right.

**Tribal Warfare** · 10-30-2012, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

It's "mind boggling" fyi

Chazz Michael Micheals disagrees

Ace Gunner · 10-30-2012, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rico

Same dude:

"Coaching Matt Cassel"

When I was at training camp one thing I wanted to see with the Quarterbacks was specific. For Cassel I wanted to see him throwing vertically. I felt with the wide receivers we had, that it was necessary for Cassel to make his mistakes with the new scheme there. Problem was I became frustrated watching him.

He would target our slots in the flats v. man, and hit the TE up the seam/post v. Cover 2. His play had me frustrated because this year was about growth for Matt Cassel. But during camp he threw mostly the same routes he always had success with. The same slant he beat Vikings/Indy cover 2, he beat at practice. Most of the routes v. certain coverages were throws that he had always had success with.

At rare points did we work the packages and throws that Cassel has always struggled with. The timing and touch to throw a 9 route vs. man/cover 2 never got the needed reps. The offense Daboll runs requires the ability to throw vertical. So far most of the problems Cassel is having are due to him and the coaching staff taking the time and preparations to familiarize themselves with it.

The problem with being a successful running team, is that defenses will adjust to that. It takes numbers in football to run. Teams that describe themselves as running teams have to adjust their personnel accordingly. They are likely, as is the case in Kansas City to carry more TE's/FB's/RB's than teams that considering themselves passing teams.

By having more TE's/Backs they face adjustments for opposing defenses. The defense typically adds a linebacker or defensive lineman. These numbers in the run game effects the passing game, how it applies to Kansas City...

The Chiefs by bringing more numbers (defenders) in the box...the openings in the passing game become vertical. With the middle of the field covered by alignment, the natural passing lanes are in favor of the split ends. Which is in contrast to spread/horizontal passing schemes which spreads defenders across the field opening up the middle. Giving a West Coast system easier/more reads in passing game.

The traditional successful running teams like the Steelers, and Ravens have prototypes for their system. Schematically the big arm is needed more so than the more mechanical QB's in Rodgers/Brees/Peyton who depend on quickness and options. True running teams are going to be limited in their options in the passing game.

With the running teams that bring defenders up, having a big arm to back them up compliments a strong running team. That defense in theory should have to worry about run fills and getting beat vertically. Currently the Chiefs don't do that to defenses, because Cassel doesn't do that to defenses.

Cassel having a big arm would be great, but he doesn't need one. Kurt Warner built a Hall of Fame career simply by having great timing on his throws. The thing that separates Kyle Orton from Matt Cassel is timing. Timing partly attributed to playing at Purdue, but Orton threw receivers open...Cassel mostly throws to open receivers.

What made me frustrated as I left camp was the praise Daboll was putting on Cassel. Right then I saw a coach that was satisfied with a Quarterback that wasn't growing as a passer. The mistakes that are happening right now are a byproduct of that moment and moments like them.

We have an owner, GM, coaches that are satisfied with this flawed passer not growing. It's good that they want him to play better. But show it! Make Cassel throw the flag under the safety and over the corner every fricken time until he commands that throw. Make Cassel throw a post inside the free safety on cover 3 until he commands it.

Matt Cassel can drive a throw, he can throw for touch...but he isn't a passer. Steve Young once said the difference between him and Mike Vick was thousands of reps at BYU. Cassel needs to get back every rep that he lost at USC. We can't four years in have Cassel learning on the job.

and this is just fantasy -- Matt Cassel does not have Young's ANYTHING. Nothing about Matty C is like Steve Young. Jeesh. Reps won't make him any closer to this statement, either.

Tombstone RJ · 10-30-2012, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Chazz Michael Micheals disagrees

never saw this movie but now I know. Yes, now I know.

DaWolf · 10-30-2012, 07:58 PM

Funny thing is this goes all the way back to before the season. Romeo was asked about Daboll's offense favouring more of a downfield attack and that this was not a strength of Matt Cassel, and his response was something to the tune of "well, a 20 yard pass downfield could be considered a long throw too." It was bizarre.

I'm not sure what happened, but that hire of Daboll made little sense based on what we have here. Cassel sucks, but what we are seeing here from him this season as well as from the rest of the team are players that are matched up with coaches who have no clue how to even squeeze out a competitive half of football from these guys...

kcxiv · 10-30-2012, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lou_Zare

and this is just fantasy -- Matt Cassel does not have Young's ANYTHING. Nothing about Matty C is like Steve Young. Jeesh. Reps won't make him any closer to this statement, either.

lol, Young said between him and VICK! They are both Left handed qb's and they both were runners

Bewbies · 10-30-2012, 08:12 PM

Interesting to read, but I already knew the fix.

Fire all these worthless bastards, draft Geno. Win.

10-30-2012, 05:49 PM
rico ON CP YOU’RE SOMEBODY’S BITCH! Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Da SEI Casino cash: $4344809	The Film Room aka formerdb: "Chiefs: Quarterbacks and the Coaching" http://echointhehead.blogspot.com/20....html?spref=tw Quarterbacking: When looking at a QB I strip away the Heisman's, MVP's, Super Bowl's...and just look at how they throw a ball. Natural talent like Peyton Manning is scattered throughout the NFL. There is nothing special about how he throws a football from point A to B...a lot of better balls came out of Jamarcus Russell's arm. If you just watched Peyton Manning it's is not a pretty site. But there isn't a more efficient player on the move than Peyton Manning. The big key with Manning is he can get to his drops quicker than any player in the NFL even at his size. Meaning he has the ability to throw before a defense can diagnose it's a pass. Sometimes something as simple as that can turn a rather above average QB into a great one. The elite QB's in the NFL aren't the elite talents in Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Manning...rather they are the most efficient passers in the NFL. All 4 QB's are versatile enough passers to run the style of offense they run, not based on natural talent rather touch/timing. If you go out to the yard and toss a football from 10 yards, 20 yards, and 30 yards each throw would be different. The mechanics of those throws will be slightly different. The amount of force will be different as well. Scouting a QB is simply identifying how a QB accounts for it with ability and mechanics. When pressed I often say that Joe Flacco is my favorite QB in the NFL. Flacco can go the furthest downfield without breaking his mechanics. From 30-40 yards Flacco can still manipulate good touch on the football...personally that control at that distance is something I appreciate over any other passer. Every QB breaks mechanics to launch a ball. It's typically where that break happens is what determines functional arm strength to me. Stanzi: I don't love the natural talent but I love the technique. His balance/arm efficiency/functional strength/release point all in my opinion are near elite. Stanzi has the tools to be one of the more efficient passers in the league. The issue with Stanzi goes back to that "break" in mechanics when passing. Stanzi's mind as a QB doesn't match his skill set. Stanzi plays a power style with a efficient skill set. For me I still love the prospect but at this point his style of play will never allow him to tap into what he can actually excel in. As much as I love Stanzi as an intermediate passer, he is too aggressive and often break excellent mechanics in favor of more aggressive reads. If anyone ask me who I wanted to start for the Chiefs it was Ricky Stanzi. I wasn't certain he was a better QB than Cassel or Quinn, but I was certain he was a more talented passer. Ultimately the amount of "passes" a QB has determines the versatility of the passing game. A team can have Jerry Rice but if the Quarterback can't beat a cover 3 then it doesn't matter...this team is capped on the amount of routes they can call due to the QB. Daboll/Cassel: In the preseason I stressed that Cassel looked better because of the passes he was throwing. Stanzi utilized a completely different set of reads. Stanzi's reads had a higher degree of difficulty. To me every completion or attempt isn't equal. How a QB missed the post on a cover 3 is a lot more intriguing than the QB hitting a slant vs. cover 2. That's the key issue of the season, the reason for the collapse. Daboll and Crennel picked the wrong QB's to run this offense. They picked the guys that were attempting and hitting the easy reads in the preseason over the guy that was missing on the more aggressive reads. It's basic...if you're playbook has a bunch of deep routes, then get the QB that throws those routes. What's happening is simple. Because we can't threaten deep teams just bracket underneath. It's a simple adjustment that the Chiefs don't have the ability to get teams out of. In my opinion Quinn nor Cassel have that ability. But that shouldn't be what is derailing this team. Long ago Daboll had to figure his player out. Daboll was applauding Cassel with hitting Baldwin on a fade vs. cover 1...hitting the TE on a skinny post vs. cover 2. Essentially every team has taken those routes away from this offense. It comes as no shock that we aren't having success passing. The timing is not there because Cassel wasn't forced to work on the timing throughout preseason. Felt nervous that we had a coaching staff that lacked vision. This offenses talents is suited for movement. Albert, Asomoah, Lilja, Allen, Charles, Moeaki are all suited to play in space...with a few of them being among the more athletic players at their positions in the NFL. Players that are suited to play horizontal are being forced to play vertically. Most are making the transition but our Cassel/Quinn don't have the ability to. What has changed schematically in Kansas City is simple. We went from a team that ran on the perimeter to a team that runs in the interior. We went from a team that threw a bunch of screens, hooks, hitches, slants to one that uses more vertical routes. For the most part every facet is transitioning to the changes outside of the Quarterback. Final Thought Stanzi utilizes the reads that this offense is designed to use. Theoretically those vertical routes are supposed to threaten the safety. Mathematically the threat of the pass should account for an additional defender. Depending on the range of the passing game determines the depth of the secondary. Currently the passing game can't remove a defender in the run game. Because of the lack of the vertical passing attack defenders are flooded in the intermediate zone...hence why so many deflections are being intercepted. The threat of a vertical passing game removes Chargers safety Eric Weddle and the pick on the deflection doesn't happen. Currently because of Quarterback talent this offense is unable to force that adjustment making our intermediate reads a lower percentage. Daboll has to understand that...instead of waiting for an adjustment from defenses that won't come. He is going to have to adjust if these are his options at QB. I still believe Cassel can serve a purpose, but he can't run this offense. Daboll has to figure out a way to make his QB better or he will handcuff this team to a bad marriage of natural talent and scheme. Change has to happen...if Daboll doesn't change he has to go...if Cassel doesn't change then the scheme has to...if the scheme doesn't change then the QB has to. The status quo is flawed and is getting in this teams way.
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10-30-2012, 06:22 PM	#16
rico ON CP YOU’RE SOMEBODY’S BITCH! Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Da SEI Casino cash: $4344809	Same dude: "Coaching Matt Cassel" When I was at training camp one thing I wanted to see with the Quarterbacks was specific. For Cassel I wanted to see him throwing vertically. I felt with the wide receivers we had, that it was necessary for Cassel to make his mistakes with the new scheme there. Problem was I became frustrated watching him. He would target our slots in the flats v. man, and hit the TE up the seam/post v. Cover 2. His play had me frustrated because this year was about growth for Matt Cassel. But during camp he threw mostly the same routes he always had success with. The same slant he beat Vikings/Indy cover 2, he beat at practice. Most of the routes v. certain coverages were throws that he had always had success with. At rare points did we work the packages and throws that Cassel has always struggled with. The timing and touch to throw a 9 route vs. man/cover 2 never got the needed reps. The offense Daboll runs requires the ability to throw vertical. So far most of the problems Cassel is having are due to him and the coaching staff taking the time and preparations to familiarize themselves with it. The problem with being a successful running team, is that defenses will adjust to that. It takes numbers in football to run. Teams that describe themselves as running teams have to adjust their personnel accordingly. They are likely, as is the case in Kansas City to carry more TE's/FB's/RB's than teams that considering themselves passing teams. By having more TE's/Backs they face adjustments for opposing defenses. The defense typically adds a linebacker or defensive lineman. These numbers in the run game effects the passing game, how it applies to Kansas City... The Chiefs by bringing more numbers (defenders) in the box...the openings in the passing game become vertical. With the middle of the field covered by alignment, the natural passing lanes are in favor of the split ends. Which is in contrast to spread/horizontal passing schemes which spreads defenders across the field opening up the middle. Giving a West Coast system easier/more reads in passing game. The traditional successful running teams like the Steelers, and Ravens have prototypes for their system. Schematically the big arm is needed more so than the more mechanical QB's in Rodgers/Brees/Peyton who depend on quickness and options. True running teams are going to be limited in their options in the passing game. With the running teams that bring defenders up, having a big arm to back them up compliments a strong running team. That defense in theory should have to worry about run fills and getting beat vertically. Currently the Chiefs don't do that to defenses, because Cassel doesn't do that to defenses. Cassel having a big arm would be great, but he doesn't need one. Kurt Warner built a Hall of Fame career simply by having great timing on his throws. The thing that separates Kyle Orton from Matt Cassel is timing. Timing partly attributed to playing at Purdue, but Orton threw receivers open...Cassel mostly throws to open receivers. What made me frustrated as I left camp was the praise Daboll was putting on Cassel. Right then I saw a coach that was satisfied with a Quarterback that wasn't growing as a passer. The mistakes that are happening right now are a byproduct of that moment and moments like them. We have an owner, GM, coaches that are satisfied with this flawed passer not growing. It's good that they want him to play better. But show it! Make Cassel throw the flag under the safety and over the corner every fricken time until he commands that throw. Make Cassel throw a post inside the free safety on cover 3 until he commands it. Matt Cassel can drive a throw, he can throw for touch...but he isn't a passer. Steve Young once said the difference between him and Mike Vick was thousands of reps at BYU. Cassel needs to get back every rep that he lost at USC. We can't four years in have Cassel learning on the job.
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10-30-2012, 06:24 PM	#18
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10-30-2012, 06:38 PM	#24
Ace Gunner First Overall Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: kcmo Casino cash: $10007271	okay. Manning was bombing the Saints with great passes, making a bunch of no name receivers famous, which as far as I know of Manning, is what he always does. Stanzi was brain farting his way through 3rd string defenses the entire pre season and his passes were not on target more often than they were it seemed to me. He had poor decisions during every outing and through a few picks, perhaps one every outing. And I like Stanzi, liked the pick. But he is going to need at least one more pre season before he's ready. I expect he will play this season though, so we shall see who is right. __________________ The Greatest
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10-30-2012, 07:58 PM	#28
DaWolf Cry havoc... Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10007725	Funny thing is this goes all the way back to before the season. Romeo was asked about Daboll's offense favouring more of a downfield attack and that this was not a strength of Matt Cassel, and his response was something to the tune of "well, a 20 yard pass downfield could be considered a long throw too." It was bizarre. I'm not sure what happened, but that hire of Daboll made little sense based on what we have here. Cassel sucks, but what we are seeing here from him this season as well as from the rest of the team are players that are matched up with coaches who have no clue how to even squeeze out a competitive half of football from these guys...
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10-30-2012, 08:12 PM	#30
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