Chiefs Forecasting the Future: 2014 Unknowns - Page 2

Dante84 · 03:36 PM

Below is what beach tribe thinks.

Let's see what CP as a whole thinks.

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

I expect Fisher to make huge strides over an injury filled Rookie season.
I think we may take a step back at G, which is the least important position in football.

Outside of that, we are talking about..what. Replacing McCluster? How will ever manage to do that?
I See Bowe having a Monster year. Hell, AJ Jenkins is as good as McCluster.

We are going to get Something out of either, Kelce, or Cummings. Might not be much, but I'll bet it's more that K. Lewis provided.

The whole approach seems to be trusting in the drafted players.
I think Kush is going to contribute, maybe even allowing Hudson to move to G where I think he can really help out.

Houston is going to have a MONSTER season

I believe Smith will have a career season.

I think Catapano can contribute
I think we will get some help through the draft.

I KNOW that all of these things will not work out, but I believe some of them will.

Enough to, yes, improve the team.

Basically all the new and 2nd year players will have to fall flat on their faces for us to not have any chance at improving.

If half of the possible positive things that could happen , do, we will be improved.
If Dorsey has failed on on all those picks, and fails again this season, then we will in fact have the shit season so many people are predicting.
I'm just not ready to throw in the towel on two seasons worth of drafting yet.
Again, I know a lot of this stuff won't happen, but some of it will, and when it does, along with the continued development of our existing players we will be an improved football team.

Thats really not huge or unrealistic expectations.

**RealSNR** · 03-31-2014, 06:33 PM

Fisher WILL improve. He surely can't get any worse.

G play WILL drop off significantly from last year. I don't expect Allen to improve any, and we're one injury away from looking at Jeff ****ing Linkenbach. And I don't trust rookies to do shit. Kansas City hasn't drafted good OL who played well as rookies in quite some time.

Bowe WILL have a better season than last year. Again, he can't be worse

AJ Jenkins WON'T be an improvement over McMidget. Last year Dex finally found his niche as a short range 3rd down possession receiver on crosses and slants. I don't trust Jenkins to do shit just because he caught a couple passes in the playoffs.

Kelce WON'T be a solid contributor. I define solid contributor as somebody who does something more than Fasano/McGrath. If you look at the preseason games, Kelce sucked dick. Again, show me you can look good outside of training camp

Commings WILL be better than Lewis. Duh.

Houston WILL be better than last year. I think that because he had to sit out a few games and also got "figured out" by offenses (thanks, Sutton). I don't know if he'll be a monster, but he'll be better than last year.

Alex Smith WILL have a better season. And that's considering the mammoth defenses he has to face. He finally figured shit out as things went along.

Catapano WON'T be a solid contributor this year. Again, ****ing show me. I don't want hype. Hype is what I bought during the Vermeil years. Never again.

2014 draft class WON'T have 3-4 solid contributors in it. 3-4 is a lot, and the Chiefs are a good(ish) team as it is. We couldn't cobble together one single solid contributor in 2013 and we had the #1 pick.

ForeverChiefs58 · 03-31-2014, 07:04 PM

I'm guessing the people who believe Jenkins will be better than McCluster, also believe Kelce and Cummings will be...well...better than...their carreer so far has shown?

**Easy 6** · 04-03-2014, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58

I'm guessing the people who believe Jenkins will be better than McCluster, also believe Kelce and Cummings will be...well...better than...their carreer so far has shown?

Jenkins not only has better size and speed, but he's been a receiver for years and years... its not some position being thrust upon him out of necessity.

Dex was an All-Pro returner and truly grew into a serviceable slot player last year, I've given him his due credit time and again for that... but for upside strictly as a receiver? Jenkins ceiling is the stratosphere while Dex' was just barely clearing that medium sized hill over there...

ForeverChiefs58 · 04-03-2014, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

Jenkins not only has better size and speed, but he's been a receiver for years and years... its not some position being thrust upon him out of necessity.

Dex was an All-Pro returner and truly grew into a serviceable slot player last year, I've given him his due credit time and again for that... but for upside strictly as a receiver? Jenkins ceiling is the stratosphere while Dex' was just barely clearing that medium sized hill over there...

Hey, I hope Jenkins turns into the next Jerry Rice too, but having the distinction as the only 1st rd WR in nfl history to not catch a pass is not something that seems rationale to put a lot of hope into.

**Easy 6** · 04-03-2014, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58

Hey, I hope Jenkins turns into the next Jerry Rice too, but having the distinction as the only 1st rd WR in nfl history to not catch a pass is not something that seems rationale to put a lot of hope into.

I'm not counting my chickens just yet, but I still have far more faith in this guy becoming a gamebreaking WR than I EVER did Dex.

Dex had a limited ceiling, what else can I say?

WhiteWhale · 04-03-2014, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

I'm not counting my chickens just yet, but I still have far more faith in this guy becoming a gamebreaking WR than I EVER did Dex.

Dex had a limited ceiling, what else can I say?

I think people should stick with hoping he can become a contributor before worrying about him becoming a 'gamebreaking WR". I doubt that will ever happen.

TEX · 04-03-2014, 07:47 PM

I cant believe all those who feel Kelce is going to make a significant difference this season. He looked terrible when he played in pre season last year but beyond that, he's coming off micro surgery and thats a difficult thing to overcome.

TEX · 04-03-2014, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

I think people should stick with hoping he can become a contributor before worrying about him becoming a 'gamebreaking WR". I doubt that will ever happen.

Yea, but he improved a great deal in only year 1 of Andy Reid and dude was a big threat in the return game. He's going to be missed.

**Rausch** · 04-03-2014, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

I cant believe all those who feel Kelce is going to make a significant difference this season. He looked terrible when he played in pre season last year but beyond that, he's coming off micro surgery and thats a difficult thing to overcome.

I doubt Tony Kelce ever starts a game for us...

**007** · 04-03-2014, 08:01 PM

I had more won'ts than wills

**Easy 6** · 04-03-2014, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

I think people should stick with hoping he can become a contributor before worrying about him becoming a 'gamebreaking WR". I doubt that will ever happen.

Pop Quiz... you have to fill a receiver spot right now, based on what we have seen, who do you choose?

Me? I'll take the relatively unproven 6' 190 guy with 4.4 speed over the 5'8 175 guy with 5.4 speed all day long... is there a bit of Hope and Wish involved? of course.

But most coaches can find a decent punt returner for much less than Dex commanded... we don't need an awesome punt returner, we NEED a killer receiver, and Jenkins has about 1000 times better chance of becoming that player.

**Easy 6** · 04-03-2014, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I doubt Tony Kelce ever starts a game for us...

No doubt, Bob Kelce? **** that guy...

SeeingRed · 04-03-2014, 08:08 PM

I answered positively to almost all questions. I was stuck on 2014 draft class (how do we know that when we dont even know who they are yet?) and AJ Jenkins being better than McCluster. I said no about Jenkins but I hope I'm wrong. I believe pretty strongly in contributions from Kelce, Commings and Catapano. I sure hope Fisher has an improved season since this is vital.

**Ragged Robin** · 04-03-2014, 08:10 PM

Alex Smith will have a better season because he's a muthafukin baus and was lighting doods up in the last half of the season. Jenkins/McCluster is not a fair comparison because technically Bowe will be replacing McCluster in the slot when they're outside base personnel which is what they did in the last few games including the playoffs. As a #3 option contributor? Maybe, but I'm hoping we draft TWO receivers in the mid rounds who will instantly become contributors, thus moving Jenkins/Avery down the depth chart.

SeeingRed · 04-03-2014, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I doubt Tony Kelce ever starts a game for us...

You mean Travis Kelce

Hopefully he is fully recovered from his surgery and if he is I feel he will be a HUGE boost for the offense.

View Poll Results: Predicting the Future
Fisher WILL improve from his 2013 season	53	89.83%
Fisher WON'T improve from his 2014 season	4	6.78%
The Guard position WILL dropoff significantly from last year	29	49.15%
TheGuard position WON'T dropoff significantly from last year	24	40.68%
Bowe will have a BETTER season than last year	37	62.71%
Bowe will have a WORSE or SIMILAR season compared to last year	19	32.20%
AJ Jenkins WILL be an improvement over Dexter McCluster	21	35.59%
AJ Jenkins WON'T be an improvement over Dexter McCluster	34	57.63%
Kelce WILL be a solid contributor this year	29	49.15%
Kelce WON'T be a solid contributor this year	26	44.07%
Commings WILL perform better than Kendrick Lewis, should he win the job	52	88.14%
Commings WON'T perform better than Kendrick Lewis, should he win the job	1	1.69%
Houston WILL have a monster season, BETTER than last year	29	49.15%
Houston WON'T have a monster season, or will perform SIMILAR to last year	26	44.07%
Alex Smith WILL have a BETTER season this year	41	69.49%
Alex Smith WON'T have a BETTER season this year, or will perform SIMILAR to least year	17	28.81%
Catapano WILL be a solid contributor this year	27	45.76%
Catapano WON'T be a solid contributor this year	25	42.37%
2014 Draft Class: There WILL be at least 3-4 legitimate contributors THIS year	12	20.34%
2014 Draft Class: There WON'T be at least 3-4 legitimate contributors THIS year	43	72.88%
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03-31-2014, 06:33 PM	#16
RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $885208	Fisher WILL improve. He surely can't get any worse. G play WILL drop off significantly from last year. I don't expect Allen to improve any, and we're one injury away from looking at Jeff **ing Linkenbach. And I don't trust rookies to do shit. Kansas City hasn't drafted good OL who played well as rookies in quite some time. Bowe WILL have a better season than last year. Again, he can't be worse AJ Jenkins WON'T be an improvement over McMidget. Last year Dex finally found his niche as a short range 3rd down possession receiver on crosses and slants. I don't trust Jenkins to do shit just because he caught a couple passes in the playoffs. Kelce WON'T be a solid contributor. I define solid contributor as somebody who does something more than Fasano/McGrath. If you look at the preseason games, Kelce sucked dick. Again, show me you can look good outside of training camp Commings WILL be better than Lewis. Duh. Houston WILL be better than last year. I think that because he had to sit out a few games and also got "figured out" by offenses (thanks, Sutton). I don't know if he'll be a monster, but he'll be better than last year. Alex Smith WILL have a better season. And that's considering the mammoth defenses he has to face. He finally figured shit out as things went along. Catapano WON'T be a solid contributor this year. Again, **ing show me. I don't want hype. Hype is what I bought during the Vermeil years. Never again. 2014 draft class WON'T have 3-4 solid contributors in it. 3-4 is a lot, and the Chiefs are a good(ish) team as it is. We couldn't cobble together one single solid contributor in 2013 and we had the #1 pick.
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SeeingRed Veteran Join Date: May 2013 Casino cash: $10011193	I answered positively to almost all questions. I was stuck on 2014 draft class (how do we know that when we dont even know who they are yet?) and AJ Jenkins being better than McCluster. I said no about Jenkins but I hope I'm wrong. I believe pretty strongly in contributions from Kelce, Commings and Catapano. I sure hope Fisher has an improved season since this is vital. __________________ "Pressure Busts Pipes"
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