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Old 02-03-2016, 02:27 PM   #1
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Ford has shown a fair amount of growth and Houston is Houston.

I don't see another home for Spence in this system.

Are you really so confident in this kid that you'll essentially be willing to bury Ford here?

I'd use a 2nd on him (he won't last that long) but I'm not going to use a 1st on a guy that makes a former 1st round pick who's showing significant potential redundant.
I don't often disagree with you, but I just don't see the "fair amount of growth" from Ford that you do.

He was marginally better as a run defender, and in coverage, and has shown little to no improvement as a pass rusher.
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Old 02-03-2016, 03:36 PM   #2
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I don't often disagree with you, but I just don't see the "fair amount of growth" from Ford that you do.

He was marginally better as a run defender, and in coverage, and has shown little to no improvement as a pass rusher.
He showed a fantastic motor as well as the beginnings of both a spin move and a nice little up and under that he'd demonstrate at times.

Ford's always going to be a speed rusher. In the end, he's like a fastball pitcher - he just needs a couple of 'meh' secondary pitches because the heat makes gets the opponent reacting. Suddenly that C- curveball makes guys look silly (Royals fans, recall Mike MacDougal).

If Ford shows just a little more growth on those secondary moves, they'll play up because of how much respect opponents have to give his speed. And this year I saw flashes of those moves. And don't sleep on the motor either; a lot of guys have carved outstanding careers for themselves merely by refusing to give up on a play. Just as many guys have failed to ever realize their potential because they lacked that kind of tenacity.

The fact that he'll never be a 'complete' rusher means he's not going to be a 16 sack guy. But off nothing but his speed alone, he can be a double digit sack guy as early as next year. Moreover, that speed will also need to be dealt with by either passes to the RB or keeping the RB in altogether because his recovery speed will make merely chipping him ineffective.
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Old 02-06-2016, 08:33 AM   #3
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He showed a fantastic motor as well as the beginnings of both a spin move and a nice little up and under that he'd demonstrate at times.

Ford's always going to be a speed rusher. In the end, he's like a fastball pitcher - he just needs a couple of 'meh' secondary pitches because the heat makes gets the opponent reacting. Suddenly that C- curveball makes guys look silly (Royals fans, recall Mike MacDougal).

If Ford shows just a little more growth on those secondary moves, they'll play up because of how much respect opponents have to give his speed. And this year I saw flashes of those moves. And don't sleep on the motor either; a lot of guys have carved outstanding careers for themselves merely by refusing to give up on a play. Just as many guys have failed to ever realize their potential because they lacked that kind of tenacity.

The fact that he'll never be a 'complete' rusher means he's not going to be a 16 sack guy. But off nothing but his speed alone, he can be a double digit sack guy as early as next year. Moreover, that speed will also need to be dealt with by either passes to the RB or keeping the RB in altogether because his recovery speed will make merely chipping him ineffective.
Hey, that's my analogy.
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Old 02-06-2016, 06:04 PM   #4
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Old 02-08-2016, 05:39 PM   #6
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Very much looks so far like the Chiefs are intent on replacing Jaye Howard early on.
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Old 02-16-2016, 06:12 PM   #7
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Very much looks so far like the Chiefs are intent on replacing Jaye Howard early on.
Penn State's Austin Johnson would be ideal. Fits the profile in terms of what Dorsey wants from his DL players. And he's a beast defending the run - something that Poe still lacks.
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Penn State's Austin Johnson would be ideal. Fits the profile in terms of what Dorsey wants from his DL players. And he's a beast defending the run - something that Poe still lacks.
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Old 02-16-2016, 10:25 PM   #9
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Interesting. Haven't seen anything on him but he does a nice job against a K-State offensive line that will see a guy or two get drafted. Seems pretty raw, but he's really active.
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Interesting. Haven't seen anything on him but he does a nice job against a K-State offensive line that will see a guy or two get drafted. Seems pretty raw, but he's really active.
Chris Jones > Johnson/Butler

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Jihad Ward projected to us by Kiper. Hmm I liked him as a 2nd Rd option. Seems like a bigger version of Sheldon Rankins but won't provide as much of an immediate impact (but should still be productive).
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Old 02-18-2016, 04:24 PM   #12
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Jihad Ward projected to us by Kiper. Hmm I liked him as a 2nd Rd option. Seems like a bigger version of Sheldon Rankins but won't provide as much of an immediate impact (but should still be productive).
I really like Ward, but as a 3rd rounder. I almost put him in my last mock. He's a solid player. He's much better against the run than rushing the passer, but the scheme KC has doesn't ask their DEs to collapse the pocket as much as they do set the edge and occupy blockers.
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Someone really named their kid this.
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Someone really named their kid this.
In 1994.

This is the one that's really messed up/unfortunate:

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Timothy McVey wasn't offended.

"I get questioned on my name all the time, especially at airports," said the Air Force sophomore running back, who was born eight months before Timothy McVeigh carried out the most deadly act of domestic terrorism in the nation's history in Oklahoma City.

McVey has been told there was talk of using his middle name or even changing his name, but those thoughts were shelved.

"My parents," he said, "were just like, 'You know what, we'll stick it out.'"

Now an Air Force running back and special teams player, McVey is fine sticking with his current role despite some spectacular displays in mop-up time.
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I'll bet he's explosive.
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