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Old 08-10-2018, 11:59 PM   #1
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Always makes laugh how people are so protective of their carbs.

We've been told to eliminate fats for the last 40+ years and instead eat more breads, pasta and rice (just look at the food pyramid)... look how that has worked out.

For the OP I can only give you my experience I have done a low carb eating plan for the last 18 weeks combined with intermittent fasting, and it has helped me lose a lot of weight and I no longer suffer from bloating.

My only carbs are from vegetables and nuts so it is not about eliminating carbs its about cutting out or down the beige (Bread)and white (sugar) carbs. I disagree that carbs are not essential because to me fibre important for gut health so green carbs are important to me any.

I eat strategic carb days every 2 weeks and have cheats meals like anyone else.
Sure. Again, for overweight people with little to no exercise, cutting carbs can absolutely be beneficial. But for most, drastically cutting carbs can have very different consequences regarding hormone balance, metabolism, etc. It also depends a lot on the type of carbs.

What works for you isn't necessary what works for most.
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Old 08-11-2018, 12:36 AM   #2
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Sure. Again, for overweight people with little to no exercise, cutting carbs can absolutely be beneficial. But for most, drastically cutting carbs can have very different consequences regarding hormone balance, metabolism, etc. It also depends a lot on the type of carbs.

What works for you isn't necessary what works for most.
I agree, the problem is so much information out there that conflicts. Low fat, keto, vegan etc what you normally find at the end is someone trying to sell you something.

I do think people need to be open minded, If I wasn't I would never have tried fasting and low carb.
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Old 08-11-2018, 06:33 AM   #3
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Sure. Again, for overweight people with little to no exercise, cutting carbs can absolutely be beneficial. But for most, drastically cutting carbs can have very different consequences regarding hormone balance, metabolism, etc. It also depends a lot on the type of carbs.

What works for you isn't necessary what works for most.
Yep, if you sit on your ass for a job then cutting carbs isn’t a big deal.


If you are active and physically work for a living it’s a little different.

Find balance. That’s always been the key.
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Old 08-11-2018, 09:51 AM   #4
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The human body has absolutely no need for any carbohydrates. They don't supply any trace minerals ,vitamins or protein.

Get on a Ketogenic diet which is very satisfying ,(your hunger cravings absolutely go away) and then go to intermittent fasting. Inflammation will virtually disappear. I've gone to one meal a day. Yesterday I skipped the one meal which gave me a 48 hour fast.

After the doctor damn near gave me brain damage with a medication switch i made up my mind I'm done with any medication I'm taking just because I'm a little overweight causing high blood pressure.
1. Yes, it does. Glycogen stores in your body are complex polysaccharides, i.e. carbohydrates, which provide the primary fuel for the brain.

2. There's a reason why hypertension is called the silent killer. You may feel fine, but if your hypertension is not controlled, you run the risk of progressive kidney and heart damage.

Don't swear off medicine because of one bad practitioner. Would you never use a car again because one dealer sold you a lemon?
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Old 08-11-2018, 11:11 AM   #5
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The human body has absolutely no need for any carbohydrates. They don't supply any trace minerals ,vitamins or protein.

Get on a Ketogenic diet which is very satisfying ,(your hunger cravings absolutely go away) and then go to intermittent fasting. Inflammation will virtually disappear. I've gone to one meal a day. Yesterday I skipped the one meal which gave me a 48 hour fast.

After the doctor damn near gave me brain damage with a medication switch i made up my mind I'm done with any medication I'm taking just because I'm a little overweight causing high blood pressure.
What were you taking? Now?
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Old 08-11-2018, 11:27 AM   #6
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What were you taking? Now?
I was taking two meds. Valsartan 160mg and Hydrochlorothaladone 25mg. I complained to the doctor of severe dry mouth and sore throat.

He switched me to a single pill combo Valsartan160/HCTZ 12.5. After three weeks I had a blind episode while driving and severe dizzines,panic attacks, anxiety, head pain, eyeball pain . didn't think about it being side affects until I went to refill my medication and they said it had been recalled.

After investigating I found the medication had been contaminated with a known carcinogen and looking up the side effects all my symptoms were listed.


I made up my mind right then I was done with this shit. I cut out ALL CARBS except what I get in a salad. I've now lost 20 pounds in two plus weeks and my blood pressure is right where it's supposed to be.

I'm on no meds now and feel better than I've felt in years.

I had been on blood pressure meds for 25 years.
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Old 08-11-2018, 11:49 AM   #7
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I was taking two meds. Valsartan 160mg and Hydrochlorothaladone 25mg. I complained to the doctor of severe dry mouth and sore throat.

He switched me to a single pill combo Valsartan160/HCTZ 12.5. After three weeks I had a blind episode while driving and severe dizzines,panic attacks, anxiety, head pain, eyeball pain . didn't think about it being side affects until I went to refill my medication and they said it had been recalled.

After investigating I found the medication had been contaminated with a known carcinogen and looking up the side effects all my symptoms were listed.


I made up my mind right then I was done with this shit. I cut out ALL CARBS except what I get in a salad. I've now lost 20 pounds in two plus weeks and my blood pressure is right where it's supposed to be.

I'm on no meds now and feel better than I've felt in years.

I had been on blood pressure meds for 25 years.
FYI, it was valsartan (which you were already taking) that was recalled, not necessarily the combination. I would blame the pharmacy more than the physician for dispensing a recalled medication
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Old 08-11-2018, 11:53 AM   #8
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FYI, it was valsartan (which you were already taking) that was recalled, not necessarily the combination. I would blame the pharmacy more than the physician for dispensing a recalled medication
yes, I don't blame the physician at all . The pharmacy was most likely alerted after it was already dispenced so I don't blame them either. But the chinese that made the product, well i don't blame them either. They're just doing what they're ordered to do and kill americans.
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Old 08-11-2018, 02:00 PM   #9
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I was taking two meds. Valsartan 160mg and Hydrochlorothaladone 25mg. I complained to the doctor of severe dry mouth and sore throat.

He switched me to a single pill combo Valsartan160/HCTZ 12.5. After three weeks I had a blind episode while driving and severe dizzines,panic attacks, anxiety, head pain, eyeball pain . didn't think about it being side affects until I went to refill my medication and they said it had been recalled.

After investigating I found the medication had been contaminated with a known carcinogen and looking up the side effects all my symptoms were listed.


I made up my mind right then I was done with this shit. I cut out ALL CARBS except what I get in a salad. I've now lost 20 pounds in two plus weeks and my blood pressure is right where it's supposed to be.

I'm on no meds now and feel better than I've felt in years.

I had been on blood pressure meds for 25 years.
Water pills? Are you still on them? They are your cause of sore throat and dry mouth.

Recalled contaminated heart medication? Holy Crap Batman!!!!
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Old 08-17-2018, 10:00 AM   #10
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I was taking two meds. Valsartan 160mg and Hydrochlorothaladone 25mg. I complained to the doctor of severe dry mouth and sore throat.

He switched me to a single pill combo Valsartan160/HCTZ 12.5. After three weeks I had a blind episode while driving and severe dizzines,panic attacks, anxiety, head pain, eyeball pain . didn't think about it being side affects until I went to refill my medication and they said it had been recalled.

After investigating I found the medication had been contaminated with a known carcinogen and looking up the side effects all my symptoms were listed.


I made up my mind right then I was done with this shit. I cut out ALL CARBS except what I get in a salad. I've now lost 20 pounds in two plus weeks and my blood pressure is right where it's supposed to be.

I'm on no meds now and feel better than I've felt in years.

I had been on blood pressure meds for 25 years.
Good for you. Those AMA docs are all just pushers for the drug companies. Im pushing 60 and on zero meds. Fug those guys.
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Old 08-10-2018, 11:05 PM   #11
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I wouldn’t eliminate carbohydrates from my diet. I don’t think thats a smart thing to do to the human body.

I say go old school and simple. Inflammation? No prob, just use ice.
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Old 08-11-2018, 11:15 AM   #12
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I wouldn’t eliminate carbohydrates from my diet. I don’t think thats a smart thing to do to the human body.

I say go old school and simple. Inflammation? No prob, just use ice.
Carbs from BERRIES AND FRUIT are good for you but in weight loss they have to be minimized. Berries are my go to carb and I don't eat bread, pasta other than La Tortilla Factory Low carb wraps.
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Old 08-10-2018, 11:23 PM   #13
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Old 08-11-2018, 12:23 AM   #14
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I had pizza for dinner. I then took my hydrocodone, gabepentin, and Aleve. I don't know if the inflammation went down but I feel better than I did before I ate pizza.

It was pepperoni in case you were wondering
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I had pizza for dinner. I then took my hydrocodone, gabepentin, and Aleve. I don't know if the inflammation went down but I feel better than I did before I ate pizza.

It was pepperoni in case you were wondering
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