Chiefs Challenging Pass Interference - Page 2

BigCatDaddy · 10-13-2019, 05:28 PM

If they won't overturn the missed PI on Kelce isn't it time to just remove the option of challenging it? They won't over turn even obvious ones at this point. FTR I was never for allowing teams to challenge PI anyways.

Mama Hip Rockets · 10-13-2019, 06:47 PM

Yeah, if they're not going to call it or overturn a challenge when the receiver is being tackled two seconds before the ball arrives, there is no point in this rule. A horrible missed call, a horrible non-overturn, and a horrible waste of a timeout that the Chiefs could have used later.

Megatron96 · 10-13-2019, 06:57 PM

I think in hindsight it was a good challenge. The rule reads something like, "clear and obvious . . ." which we now know is ambiguous at best. But it was obvious to all of us that the defender was quite early, and that he not only had an arm wrapped around Kelce's body, but he was actually riding Kelce's back; all clear indications of DPI.

However, that didn't meet the requirements of "clear and obvious" for the officials. Now Reid and his staff know going forward that a similar incident won't be good enough. Call it a test of the rule.

Besides, the loss of the challenge and the TO weren't relevant to the outcome of the game in the end.

**Dartgod** · 10-13-2019, 07:03 PM

I've seen even more clear and obvious than Kelce's play not get overturned. It's BS and if they are not going to actually use the rule to make things right, then they need to shitcan it.

**Rain Man** · 10-13-2019, 07:21 PM

We all know how this ends. No one will get challenges in their favor except the Patriots, and they'll get it at critical moments that change games.

It was a terrible rule change that will be used for evil.

patteeu · 10-13-2019, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SupDock

The fact that the officials think they run the NFL is a little ridiculous. They are blatantly choosing not to enforce a rule which was voted upon and enacted. Why this isn't being addressed is bewildering

I assume it's because they're doing what the league wants them to do. They made it pretty clear early on that they didn't want the challenge to be used to overturn anything at all debatable. I think they just decided to overcompensate to train coaches not to challenge PI except in the most extreme (NFC championship-like) circumstances.

stonedstooge · 10-13-2019, 07:26 PM

Ref's are saving it for the playoffs.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-13-2019, 07:28 PM

I think Andy threw it because he's tired of it. Not because this was blatant PI. I don't know the hell the Chiefs make this a point of emphasis with the league because kelce is flat out getting mauled out there.

JakeF · 10-13-2019, 07:29 PM

If that was a team from a 'more important' market the refs change it. The Chiefs get screwed all the time. We've been getting screwed for decades.

**Dartgod** · 10-13-2019, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF

If that was a team from a 'more important' market the refs change it. The Chiefs get screwed all the time. We've been getting screwed for decades.

Oh bullshit, you haven't been paying attention. They aren't changing ANYTHING. It's not just us.

tk13 · 10-13-2019, 07:35 PM

The problem is it's hard for coaches not to challenge those kinds of calls. It's just unnatural to see a screwed up call that you can challenge... and then just sit there and do nothing about it. Then the coach gets blamed for being an idiot. If they challenge it and nothing happens, then it's just the stupid refs.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-13-2019, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF

If that was a team from a 'more important' market the refs change it. The Chiefs get screwed all the time. We've been getting screwed for decades.

We've benefited from some good calls the past few weeks so I'm not going down that road. But today we got screwed. It's not why we lost, but the refs were horrendous today.

scho63 · 10-13-2019, 11:20 PM

You know the moment that Bellichek challenges us on a PI call during our game there will be the FIRST time all season it's reversed. You just know it......

**BigRedChief** · 10-14-2019, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96

Out of 24 or 25 challenges, the refs have over-turned the call on the field exactly one time.

Saw many articles and video clips over the last couple of weeks saying the refs are pissed and didn't want the pass interference challenge. They need to get over it and call it like they do all the other plays.

Mecca · 10-14-2019, 07:37 AM

I like how they can just refuse to do something and it's ok, I think everyone should try that at their job and see what happens.

patteeu · 10-14-2019, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Saw many articles and video clips over the last couple of weeks saying the refs are pissed and didn't want the pass interference challenge. They need to get over it and call it like they do all the other plays.

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I like how they can just refuse to do something and it's ok, I think everyone should try that at their job and see what happens.

It seems very unlikely to me that this is refs acting out on their own in defiance of the league.

10-13-2019, 05:28 PM
BigCatDaddy The Beast Inside Your Head Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $569122	Challenging Pass Interference If they won't overturn the missed PI on Kelce isn't it time to just remove the option of challenging it? They won't over turn even obvious ones at this point. FTR I was never for allowing teams to challenge PI anyways.
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10-13-2019, 06:47 PM	#16
Mama Hip Rockets You don't faze me, Gobble. Join Date: Dec 2005 Casino cash: $10005644	Yeah, if they're not going to call it or overturn a challenge when the receiver is being tackled two seconds before the ball arrives, there is no point in this rule. A horrible missed call, a horrible non-overturn, and a horrible waste of a timeout that the Chiefs could have used later.
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10-13-2019, 06:57 PM	#17
Megatron96 Suupraa Geniuuusss Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Phoenix, AZ Casino cash: $440400	I think in hindsight it was a good challenge. The rule reads something like, "clear and obvious . . ." which we now know is ambiguous at best. But it was obvious to all of us that the defender was quite early, and that he not only had an arm wrapped around Kelce's body, but he was actually riding Kelce's back; all clear indications of DPI. However, that didn't meet the requirements of "clear and obvious" for the officials. Now Reid and his staff know going forward that a similar incident won't be good enough. Call it a test of the rule. Besides, the loss of the challenge and the TO weren't relevant to the outcome of the game in the end.
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chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $594497	I think Andy threw it because he's tired of it. Not because this was blatant PI. I don't know the hell the Chiefs make this a point of emphasis with the league because kelce is flat out getting mauled out there.
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JakeF MVP Join Date: May 2017 Casino cash: $9990400	If that was a team from a 'more important' market the refs change it. The Chiefs get screwed all the time. We've been getting screwed for decades.
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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $502500	The problem is it's hard for coaches not to challenge those kinds of calls. It's just unnatural to see a screwed up call that you can challenge... and then just sit there and do nothing about it. Then the coach gets blamed for being an idiot. If they challenge it and nothing happens, then it's just the stupid refs.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $1227050	I like how they can just refuse to do something and it's ok, I think everyone should try that at their job and see what happens.
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